Facebook has blocked live streaming of the Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation's over Kashmir

[Rusty]

LOL.. U looks desperate to avoid the inquiry I raise... The real one really believe in black and white only is you and not me. You believe West system of so called selective freedom and media and values is the best while China state control is the evil. How ironic...

What China state is doing, is it different from these so called western government? There is no different. While west interest is threaten, they will equally shut down media or regulate it. At least Chinese government got balls to admit unlike the west wolf cover in sheep clothes, bragging about their so called free media and human right which is tools to fool naive people like you.

Talking about scheming and underhand method, the western are few steps level higher than any others.

Finally, we have a smart alec talking about raising to facebook thru Pakistan government? No offence, Pakistan has nothing worthy for Facebook to take note nor any leverage or value compare to India. The only thing you can do is try kidnapped Facebook owners to threaten them or simply bomb your way all to US,home of facebook to force them down.

why do you need to start your argument with nonsense argument to emotion?
It deeply weakens your argument.

Of course you and I both know that it doesn't matter what I say, your reply will be the same
"You are wrong, CPC is right, LA LA LA LA LA"

As for your grade 4 level argument.

Freedom of speech is not "freedom to say what you want, when you want it"
Facebook is a private company. They can censor anything they like on their own private site.

Freedom of speech comes in when it allows me, or anyone else, to create a Facebook competitor so I can say what I would like. And the government or Facebook cannot stop me from doing that.

Now in China, Weibo does not allow you to say what you want. Sure, no problem they are a private company.
But you cannot make a new Weibo competitor so you can say what you want. The CPC will shut you down so fast you won't even notice your organs missing.

There, that has officially answered your ridiculous question.


As for the rest, this image can explain it much better then I ever could.

Ban them. Also ban Twitter.

FB and Twitter are fake news breeding grounds. They also take sides in conflicts instead of allowing all sides the opportunity of freedom of speech.

Pakistan should grow a spine and ban FB. Pakistan is in the right here. This move by FB is nothing short of bias and undermining freedom of speech.

Yes sure, lets give India free rein to spread fake propaganda against us without the ability to fight back.
Another great idea would be to take guns away from our troops so when they fight India, they will have no chance.

 

[maximuswarrior]

why do you need to start your argument with nonsense argument to emotion?
It deeply weakens your argument.

Of course you and I both know that it doesn't matter what I say, your reply will be the same
"You are wrong, CPC is right, LA LA LA LA LA"

As for your grade 4 level argument.

Freedom of speech is not "freedom to say what you want, when you want it"
Facebook is a private company. They can censor anything they like on their own private site.

Freedom of speech comes in when it allows me, or anyone else, to create a Facebook competitor so I can say what I would like. And the government or Facebook cannot stop me from doing that.

Now in China, Weibo does not allow you to say what you want. Sure, no problem they are a private company.
But you cannot make a new Weibo competitor so you can say what you want. The CPC will shut you down so fast you won't even notice your organs missing.

There, that has officially answered your ridiculous question.


As for the rest, this image can explain it much better then I ever could.

Yes sure, lets give India free rein to spread fake propaganda against us without the ability to fight back.
Another great idea would be to take guns away from our troops so when they fight India, they will have no chance.

Like as if FB and Twitter are letting Pakistan speak freely.

 

[Rusty]

Like as if FB and Twitter are letting Pakistan speak freely.

When you struggle at something do you just give up and go home?
Have you ever failed a test and then gave up school?

We need to fight this by contacting Facebook, raising awareness and doing our part.
Taking our ball and going home to cry is only going to strengthen India and the Anti Pakistan people out there.

 

[Beast]

why do you need to start your argument with nonsense argument to emotion?
It deeply weakens your argument.

Of course you and I both know that it doesn't matter what I say, your reply will be the same
"You are wrong, CPC is right, LA LA LA LA LA"

As for your grade 4 level argument.

Freedom of speech is not "freedom to say what you want, when you want it"
Facebook is a private company. They can censor anything they like on their own private site.

Freedom of speech comes in when it allows me, or anyone else, to create a Facebook competitor so I can say what I would like. And the government or Facebook cannot stop me from doing that.

Now in China, Weibo does not allow you to say what you want. Sure, no problem they are a private company.
But you cannot make a new Weibo competitor so you can say what you want. The CPC will shut you down so fast you won't even notice your organs missing.

There, that has officially answered your ridiculous question.


As for the rest, this image can explain it much better then I ever could.

Yes sure, lets give India free rein to spread fake propaganda against us without the ability to fight back.
Another great idea would be to take guns away from our troops so when they fight India, they will have no chance.

LOL. How does it answer my question when facbook can delete the account they deemed not suitable and isnt this thread is all about? Is that one part of freedom of speech? It makes no different from China action. I still dont see how what different are you talking about. I know you are desperate to avoid the point to save some face for your selective view. The only reason you think China is different is just purely your hatre for China. I do considered you are living in western countries, living in such environment of cos will shape your hatre for China.

Western countries has never loosen their grip of world imperialism. China is a target by western becos China has the ability to free the world from western imperialism.

 

[maximuswarrior]

When you struggle at something do you just give up and go home?
Have you ever failed a test and then gave up school?

We need to fight this by contacting Facebook, raising awareness and doing our part.
Taking our ball and going home to cry is only going to strengthen India and the Anti Pakistan people out there.

The Americans are not going to let you fight fairly. They are on Indian side. This is not the first time this has happened. Twitter has behaved in a similar manner. Time has come to take a decision.

 

[Rusty]

LOL. How does it answer my question when facbook can delete the account they deemed not suitable and isnt this thread is all about? Is that one part of freedom of speech? It makes no different from China action. I still dont see how what different are you talking about. I know you are desperate to avoid the point to save some face for your selective view. The only reason you think China is different is just purely your hatre for China. I do considered you are living in western countries, living in such environment of cos will shape your hatre for China.

Western countries has never loosen their grip of world imperialism. China is a target by western becos China has the ability to free the world from western imperialism.

serious question, do they teach you anything in Chinese school outside of patriotic education?
Your argument is not only flawed but makes no sense.

I already answered what freedom of speech means.

But I guess it's like trying to explain what love is to a computer.
CPC doesn't even have the concept of freedom of speech so I get why you don't seem to understand it.

As for the rest.....
You are just desperate to parrot CPC talking points and don't want us to think for ourselves.
You hate people who think for themselves, that is why you are always attacking foreigners who don't believe CPC is God, like you do.

The Americans are not going to let you fight fairly. They are on Indian side. This is not the first time this has happened. Twitter has behaved in a similar manner. Time has come to take a decision.

So?
Who said anyone has to fight fairly?
They don't have to, and neither do we.
Your solution is the same as going up, putting our heads in the sand and bum in the air.

In the world of 5th gen warfare you don't even want us to try, which is also exactly what our enemies want us to do.

 

[graphican]

"Information war" is going to be bigger than military conflicts between India and Pakistan and digital broadcasting stations like Facebook and Twitter are known to favour India because of American wishes or because Indians are working there.

Pakistan and China must come up with a strategy to minify information war projected or blocked by digital broadcasting services like facebook and twitter. In a future conflict, you will find them promote enemy lies or hindering your truth.

 

[maximuswarrior]

serious question, do they teach you anything in Chinese school outside of patriotic education?
Your argument is not only flawed but makes no sense.

I already answered what freedom of speech means.

But I guess it's like trying to explain what love is to a computer.
CPC doesn't even have the concept of freedom of speech so I get why you don't seem to understand it.

As for the rest.....
You are just desperate to parrot CPC talking points and don't want us to think for ourselves.
You hate people who think for themselves, that is why you are always attacking foreigners who don't believe CPC is God, like you do.



So?
Who said anyone has to fight fairly?
They don't have to, and neither do we.
Your solution is the same as going up, putting our heads in the sand and bum in the air.

In the world of 5th gen warfare you don't even want us to try, which is also exactly what our enemies want us to do.

They don't allow us to speak freely on Kashmir. That much is clear. You are trying to achieve the impossible.

I am proposing we fight this war through other channels that do allow freedom of speech. Banning FB and Twitter doesn't mean we don't fight the war of narrative on other platforms.

 

[Rusty]

They don't allow us to speak freely on Kashmir. That much is clear. You are trying to achieve the impossible.

I am proposing we fight this war through other channels that do allow freedom of speech. Banning FB and Twitter doesn't mean we don't fight the war of narrative on other platforms.

Twitter and FB are the two biggest platforms. Especially twitter.
Blocking those two effectively blocks 50% or more of our capabilities. Only platforms left will be you tube and maybe Reddit.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Twitter and FB are the two biggest platforms. Especially twitter.
Blocking those two effectively blocks 50% or more of our capabilities. Only platforms left will be you tube and maybe Reddit.

Agreed. So is the US the biggest superpower and we moved on.

 

[Vortex]

What happened to freedom of speech here? Where is he that cvnt Mark Zuckerberg?

I suspect indians moderators hands in it


There is no freedom of expression anywhere. And even if it exists, then there are lot others means to suppress it.

 

[Rusty]

I suspect indians moderators hands in it


There is no freedom of expression anywhere. And even if it exists, then there are lot others means to suppress it.

Again, you guys do not fundamentally understand what freedom of expression means.

Who is stopping anyone else from making a Facebook competitor?
In China you are not allowed to make a Weibo competitor. That is true no-Freedom of speach.
In the west you are free to make a FB competitor and no government will stop you.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Again, you guys do not fundamentally understand what freedom of expression means.

Who is stopping anyone else from making a Facebook competitor?
In China you are not allowed to make a Weibo competitor. That is true no-Freedom of speach.
In the west you are free to make a FB competitor and no government will stop you.

I think in the future this might happen.

 

[Vortex]

Again, you guys do not fundamentally understand what freedom of expression means.

Who is stopping anyone else from making a Facebook competitor?
In China you are not allowed to make a Weibo competitor. That is true no-Freedom of speach.
In the west you are free to make a FB competitor and no government will stop you.

Does freedom of expression resolve around a tool/application bro ? It’s a social media from a country who is defend freedom of speech in his constitution.

There is also problems about which laws you should comply when using Facebook outside United States. American laws or your local laws ?

I don’t use Facebook so I don’t know what are the terms and conditions of use.

You are right nobody is stopping me (if only I had money and technicals skills) to build a competitor of Facebook,

But even if I build one. Being Muslims, will we allow speeches against Islam ?

I admit that I’m not expert in philosophy so my reasonings have certainly flaws so I could be wrong.

I think in the future this might happen.

Possible but Facebook is a monster now that to control it USA will have to cut it

Facebook has now lot of money they can use it to sabotage any competitor.

 

[xyx007]

Facebook or Whatsapp or Uber which is a Jewish products, allows people to be in control of how the world sees them. And most people want to project a certain image of themselves – so they tend to post only the good news or upbeat or witty comments and edit out the not-so-great things.
The oppressed have always been the opposite. The oppressor has always been strong. Suppressing the truth, it doesn't work, never has never will! Facebook is there just to make money for the enterprise. That is the reason, the internet has been plugged off in the Kashmir valley.