EXPOSED!!! Turkey Trains and Provides Weapons to......

[Oublious]

ahahahahha....well said. I already pointed this out in several related threads on here, and your Turkish friends were abusing me saying i know nothing about their country/region.lol . Turkey made a huge mistake supporting the rebels in Syria in the first place, its never a good thing to support one side/rag tag militias/jihadists in another country's civil war(and most of all a neighbouring country for that matter), it always comes back to bite you, like paksitan found out with the talibans/other extremists groups it supported during the soviet invasion. Today its still grappling with the effects. It will take some time, but they will eventually destablize Turkey as well, maybe not now/immediately, but surely in the coming years as the sitiuation in Syria/Iraq and with Kurds gets worse and worse, arms, militias/jihadists/weapons etc flow in....what a good recipe for disaster....ayway lets just keep enjoying the show.

though personally i will be sad to see if that happens to turkey, since its one of the few advanced country in the region which i admire. it will be a shame if it were to be destabilized like most middle eastern countries who are in turmoil today..... it will indeed be a tragedy, all because of 1 stupid mans decision(yes Erdogan im looking at you and your so called FSA).

You europeans are always like that. Bitching around what wil happen to others. Assad kills millions and nothing happens when isis destroys european investmens in iraq you are talking about humanity. Like qaddafi you are coming action, and what england invest in iraq we dont know. But we wil not clean the mess of england and americans.

Iraq and syria is open for your soldiers mate. You can have it all.

And dont worry we wont destabilized, look 30 years European countries have supported pkk. Iran, Iraq, syria and armenia in the middle east and we still on the ground. You and irfanbalouchi dont not much about Turkey and Syria only what you are reading on the internet. gageling same thing over and over....

 

[Azizam]

You europeans are always like that. Bitching around what wil happen to others. Assad kills millions and nothing happens when isis destroys european investmens in iraq you are talking about humanity. Like qaddafi you are coming action, and what england invest in iraq we dont know. But we wil not clean the mess of england and americans.

Iraq and syria is open for your soldiers mate. You can have it all.

And dont worry we wont destabilized, look 30 years European countries have supported pkk. Iran, Iraq, syria and armenia in the middle east and we still on the ground. You and irfanbalouchi dont not much about Turkey and Syria only what you are reading on the internet. gageling same thing over and over....

You are an idiot

 

[Oublious]

You are an idiot

Sri lanka and bangladesh can join with england.

 

[mike2000]

You are an idiot

lool dont mind him bro. lets just keep enjoying the show, as ISIS, Free Syria so called army, Al nusra and other islamists groups gets stronger and stronger, arms, ammunitions, training, finance from house of Saud and its gcc countries flow to the wahabists in the region, Kurds get more arms, training and ammunitions etc, very good recipe for disaster if you ask me. And mind you, this is just the beginning.

Even his pakistanis friends/brothers here have been trying to talk sense to him/Turkey(they have a very close relations with Turkey) invane. You know when a blind stubborn man has made up his mind, even though he cant see and his friends try to help him/direct him he acts irrationally/refuses any help, thinking his way is the best, not until he falls in a pit/hole, will he start asking for help. So i advice all the other pakistanis/bengladeshis and other muslims members here trying to talk some sense to him to just keep quite and carry on, since theres no point arguing/talking some sense to someone when hes already made up his mind that his way is the best or that his country is unique/very strong/mighty/special so anything that affects other countries cant/will never affect his own country since they are special. Not like Turkey's army is stronger than Paksitan.lol so i dont see why he thinks they are special.lol
Lets wait and see as the situation gets worse and worse everyday till it gets to a point of no return....then we can just sit on our chair/living roomand enjoy the show on France 24/BBC/RT/CCTV/al jazeera and the like.

 

[usernameless]

not sure why people are so fretting about Turkey possibly ending up as Pakistan. I don't know about the shortcomings of Pakistan against the terrorists in the neighborhood, but i do know that terrorists will have a hard time against Turkey. if it's the pkk, it's the same old pkk we know. their biggest damage is done on the development of south east, meaning Kurds are the ones suffering from their actions. If it is isis, Turks are generally not into that stuff. Even now most Turks in isis are of Kurdish background, which doesnt come as a surprise considering Turkish Kurds being conservative muslims. the only thing isis can do is sending suicide bombers. The only thing that might destabilize Turkey is Turk-Kurd civil war or sunni-alevi sectarian war. pkk has tried several times to organize uprisings since the past, with no big success. Kurds in general seem to have no appetite for such separatist stuff. Sunni-alevi might be tense, but from the alevis i know, they are more nationalistic than the average Turk, so i am sure we all will face one direction if an external threat tries to undermine us. all this Turkey becoming a second Iran or second Pakistan is nothing but speculations based on the weaknesses of these 2 countries. only reason isis, taliban etc can exist is because the govt there is not strong enough to keep such trash away. Turkey has the intelligence network, army and police and above all a population that has no love for such creeps to draw support from. Turkey has combated terrorism since ages. dhkp-c, asala, pkk, hizbullah, we are still standing tall and growing.

pkk's attempt to face Turkish army face to face ended with a disaster for them, just like how they are minced meat in Syria without US support.
Operation Dawn (2012) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mike2000]

not sure why people are so fretting about Turkey possibly ending up as Pakistan. I don't know about the shortcomings of Pakistan against the terrorists in the neighborhood, but i do know that terrorists will have a hard time against Turkey. if it's the pkk, it's the same old pkk we know. their biggest damage is done on the development of south east, meaning Kurds are the ones suffering from their actions. If it is isis, Turks are generally not into that stuff. Even now most Turks in isis are of Kurdish background, which doesnt come as a surprise considering Turkish Kurds being conservative muslims. the only thing isis can do is sending suicide bombers. The only thing that might destabilize Turkey is Turk-Kurd civil war or sunni-alevi sectarian war. pkk has tried several times to organize uprisings since the past, with no big success. Kurds in general seem to have no appetite for such separatist stuff. Sunni-alevi might be tense, but from the alevis i know, they are more nationalistic than the average Turk, so i am sure we all will face one direction if an external threat tries to undermine us. all this Turkey becoming a second Iran or second Pakistan is nothing but speculations based on the weaknesses of these 2 countries. only reason isis, taliban etc can exist is because the govt there is not strong enough to keep such trash away. Turkey has the intelligence network, army and police and above all a population that has no love for such creeps to draw support from. Turkey has combated terrorism since ages. dhkp-c, asala, pkk, hizbullah, we are still standing tall and growing.

pkk's attempt to face Turkish army face to face ended with a disaster for them, just like how they are minced meat in Syria without US support.
Operation Dawn (2012) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yes we know Turkey is very special,strong and unique country unlike other babarian weak countries in the middle east.
Turkey's army alone can run down nuclear power Pakistans army and other weak/failed states in the middle east armies in a few weeks/days. strong Turkey.

 

[Oublious]

not sure why people are so fretting about Turkey possibly ending up as Pakistan. I don't know about the shortcomings of Pakistan against the terrorists in the neighborhood, but i do know that terrorists will have a hard time against Turkey. if it's the pkk, it's the same old pkk we know. their biggest damage is done on the development of south east, meaning Kurds are the ones suffering from their actions. If it is isis, Turks are generally not into that stuff. Even now most Turks in isis are of Kurdish background, which doesnt come as a surprise considering Turkish Kurds being conservative muslims. the only thing isis can do is sending suicide bombers. The only thing that might destabilize Turkey is Turk-Kurd civil war or sunni-alevi sectarian war. pkk has tried several times to organize uprisings since the past, with no big success. Kurds in general seem to have no appetite for such separatist stuff. Sunni-alevi might be tense, but from the alevis i know, they are more nationalistic than the average Turk, so i am sure we all will face one direction if an external threat tries to undermine us. all this Turkey becoming a second Iran or second Pakistan is nothing but speculations based on the weaknesses of these 2 countries. only reason isis, taliban etc can exist is because the govt there is not strong enough to keep such trash away. Turkey has the intelligence network, army and police and above all a population that has no love for such creeps to draw support from. Turkey has combated terrorism since ages. dhkp-c, asala, pkk, hizbullah, we are still standing tall and growing.

pkk's attempt to face Turkish army face to face ended with a disaster for them, just like how they are minced meat in Syria without US support.
Operation Dawn (2012) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let that mate chitchat. He comes too often to amsterdam for the hookers and drugs....

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Good job Erdogan, train the people who will bite our hands tomorrow.

tough situation...Turkiye should tread carefully

do most Peshmerga fighters support PKK also or are they divided on strategy

 

[usernameless]

yes we know Turkey is very special,strong and unique country unlike other babarian weak countries in the middle east.
Turkey's army alone can run down nuclear power Pakistans army and other weak/failed states in the middle east armies in a few weeks/days. strong Turkey.

what has nuclear power to do with combating terrorism? and since when was i talking about Turkey vs ME armies?

 

[Jaanbaz]

TURKEY STEPS UP SUPPORT FOR PESHMERGA BY PROVIDING MILITARY EDUCATION​

View attachment 145136
​

ISTANBUL — Turkey has followed on from its permission to allow peshmerga fighters to enter the country, in order to cross into Syria to battle ISIS militants, by further providing military education to the fighters deployed in Kobani amid criticism that Turkey is failing to support the fight against ISIS.

A group of Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga troops entered Kobani on Thursday. Upon seeing that the ISIS threat is intensifying for the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), Ankara has made a further contribution to its fight against ISIS by assigning special forces to give special education to the peshmerga fighters, who lacked experience in fighting on plain land. The special forces, named 'Bordo Bereliler', have been taken from the Turkish troop in northern Iraq.

Since ISIS - which holds parts of Syria and Iraq as part of an ambition to redraw the map of the Middle East - began rising in Kobani, Turkey has been facing assaults from various circles for its so called lack of support to the fight against ISIS. As a response to the accusations, Turkey began increasing its supports for the peshmerga soldiers, which recently crossed to Syria via Turkey to help fellow Kurds battling ISIS.

Ankara was criticized by both the pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) and coalition forces for its reluctance to provide the Democratic Union Party (PYD), which is the terrorist PKK's Syrian wing, with assistance. Turkish officials openly stated that they would never show support to a terrorist organization. Instead, Ankara has come up with another plan to solve the crisis - allowing official forces, who have been recognized by law, to enter the fight against ISIS. The newly introduced plan has been accepted by U.S, despite opposition from the PYD, and has eliminated the assaults it has been facing, which have extended to claims that Turkey is siding with ISIS.

As proof of its sincerity in making contributions to the coalition, Turkey not only allowed peshmerga fighters to enter Turkish territory to cross to Syria, but has also provided the fighters with military education. This covers battle teachings such as fighting at close quarters, using the battle field competently, deploying the howitzers in proper places and concealing the weapons wisely. The peshmerga fighters who are currently fighting ISIS are reportedly chosen out of those who received the education from Turkish soldiers.

Weapon supplies have also been provided for the peshmerga forces in their fight against ISIS, in accordance with an agreement reached by peshmerga ministry and Turkey.

The spokesperson of the ministry stated that the forces deployed in Kobani have been sent new weapons and ammunition, and will continue to be provided with weapons via Turkey when necessary, according to the agreement.

Turkey steps up support for peshmerga by providing military education | Politics | Daily Sabah

(Anti turkey propaganda getting weaker every day)

Here we can see PYD with faces of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan hence the reason they are considered terrorist by Turkey. Makes sense if you ask me.

View attachment 145133

View attachment 145134

Turkey should continue to stay neutral. If Turkey gets involved in Arab nations then it will become like Syria or Iraq. So much hard work has been done by Ataturk and Turks to make their country strong, peaceful and free from religious violence. Getting involved in Arab affairs too much will be bad for Turkey in my opinion.

 

[mike2000]

Turkey should continue to stay neutral. If Turkey gets involved in Arab nations then it will become like Syria or Iraq. So much hard work has been done by Ataturk and Turks to make their country strong, peaceful and free from religious violence. Getting involved in Arab affairs too much will be bad for Turkey in my opinion.

Never Turkey is a unique and special Country. Nothing like what you said can ever happen to Turkey. Turkey is not like Iraq, Syria or Pakistan since those countries all have a weak government and are almost failed states. So dont mix up Turkey with other weak countries in the middle east. Turkey will always remain strong no matter what it does, it has gone through tougher times and its still strong and peaceful.

 

[-SINAN-]

Guys, you are aware that Turkey is providing traning to Peshmerga not some random group ? They are the official army of KRG and they are being trained by Germany and US.

So, why everybody lose their minds when Turkey does the same ?

Never Turkey is a unique and special Country. Nothing like what you said can ever happen to Turkey. Turkey is not like Iraq, Syria or Pakistan since those countries all have a weak government and are almost failed states. So dont mix up Turkey with other weak countries in the middle east. Turkey will always remain strong no matter what it does, it has gone through tougher times and its still strong and peaceful.

Exactly. Good that you learned that.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Guys, you are aware that Turkey is providing traning to Peshmerga not some random group ? They are the official army of KRG and they are being trained by Germany and US.

So, why everybody lose their minds when Turkey does the same ?

Looks like a good plan. Train the Peshmerga but keep the pressure up on PKK. They will probably fight each other sooner or later.

Never Turkey is a unique and special Country. Nothing like what you said can ever happen to Turkey. Turkey is not like Iraq, Syria or Pakistan since those countries all have a weak government and are almost failed states. So dont mix up Turkey with other weak countries in the middle east. Turkey will always remain strong no matter what it does, it has gone through tougher times and its still strong and peaceful.

Only takes few idiots to mess up the whole country. We all ready have one Turkish member on PDF supporting ISIS. There are plenty fighting in Syria too.

 

[-SINAN-]

Looks like a good plan. Train the Peshmerga but keep the pressure up on PKK. They will probably fight each other sooner or later.

Nope, i don't think they will fight each other...

In Iraq, they just stay away from each other and pursue different agendas.

In Syria however. It's a different story. There were Barzani's political party. YPG arrested dozens of them and created a bad blood with Barzani.

But another thing is. Now we have both FSA and Peshmerga presence in Kobani but with relatively small numbers. I don't think their presence in Kobani make a shift in YPG's policies.

But by letting do so, we placed ourselves against ISIS. In worst case scenerio, ISIS might attack on Turkey for retribution.

It would be best if we just stayed neutral and didn't take sides.

 

[xenon54 out]

Give me one good reason why KSA should do more than what we are already doing which is more than 99% of all the world's countries on the ground in Syria? The only one that has ever done anything on the ground officially is the US (taking the lead) and the coalition, mostly some GCC states with KSA taking the lead among them. KSA should not risks its soldiers life's in a Syrian civil war nor any other Arab country IMO.

What happened to the ancient Arabic brotherhood? Look im not saying you should do something, its just odd that everybody is demanding from us to go into war while there are enough powerful Arab countrys, Isis are 90% Arabs and the war is happening in Arabic lands its obviously a Arabic internal conflict, if there should be a external involvement then by Arabs not someone else.

tough situation...Turkiye should tread carefully

do most Peshmerga fighters support PKK also or are they divided on strategy

They have bad blood between eachother, they dont like Barzani but they need his help now, hell they even accept help from their biggest enemy Turkey right now, its a fight for survival they would even accept help from Satan personally.