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Every Israeli Missile Strike is a War Crime

Its all hogwash, nothing will happen. The US of A is an extension of Israel and they won't allow any intervention to take place. The UN is a tool the US needs to legitimize its own murder of the Muslim people.
 
Mostly well said, except that I see a two state solution rather than a single one. It will take a few decades at least to achieve. May be we will talk about this then.

Bhai, I do not know if I can take another breath, what to talk of decades. But I will be happier with a 2-state solution. I just do not see it happening.
 
Its all hogwash, nothing will happen. The US of A is an extension of Israel and they won't allow any intervention to take place. The UN is a tool the US needs to legitimize its own murder of the Muslim people.

An average American is actually a nice person. He would engage with you in a discussion and often be open to reviewing his opinion.

The public opinion is changing. The younger crop is not beholden to opinions of the older generation. Money is king in US politics and AIPAC weilds a lot of influence because of it. But nothing ever stays the same. Stuff happens, things change.

I see a future Israel having to bend itself, just like South Africa. It will take time. But it Insha-Allah it will happen.
 
An average American is actually a nice person. He would engage with you in a discussion and often be open to reviewing his opinion.

The public opinion is changing. The younger crop is not beholden to opinions of the older generation. Money is king in US politics and AIPAC weilds a lot of influence because of it. But nothing ever stays the same. Stuff happens, things change.

I see a future Israel having to bend itself, just like South Africa. It will take time. But it Insha-Allah it will happen.

Your last line is the best in this post. The long term demographic changes will ensure that Israel has to give Palestinians their freedom, one way or another. I have no doubt about this.
 
Your last line is the best in this post. The long term demographic changes will ensure that Israel has to give Palestinians their freedom, one way or another. I have no doubt about this.

That will only happen if the theory of Zionism is defeated. The best solution to the problem is actually to integrate Gaza and West bank into Israel, but that won't be acceptable to the Zionists as they have a racially motivated demographically engineered policy of a 'Jewish majority'.
 
That will only happen if the theory of Zionism is defeated. The best solution to the problem is actually to integrate Gaza and West bank into Israel, but that won't be acceptable to the Zionists as they have a racially motivated demographically engineered policy of a 'Jewish majority'.

Pardon my language, but the notion of a single state is fu&^ery! Any Israeli expansion must be viewed from the prism of the manner in which Israeli settlements are established, they do not accommodate the indigenous population, its not as if settlers move into your neighborhood and compete with you for resources, they evict you completely. Any Israeli expansion will envisage the complete eviction of the Palestinians or if the surrounding nations seal their borders a slow scheme to reduce their numbers through attrition caused by repeated conflicts and due to the ever shrinking amount of land to subsist on. Bibi is on record stating that even the notion of a really sovereign Palestinian state west of the river Jordan is anathema to him, as in at best the PA can run the West Bank but it cannot be a real nation with an army and legitimate interface with the international world contrary to Israeli interests.

Nothing short of the US and the other countries of the region uniting to ensure a 67 borders two state solution will ever work, and for that both sides will have to agree to recognize each other, Israel will have to drop its rant of how even a notional free Palestinian state in itself is a threat to them and the likes of Hamas will have to amend their charter and remove in word and spirit the notion of wiping out Israel. As daunting as this sounds in light of the first paragraph, and as counter intuitive as a two sate solution may sound relative to a single state one in the same context, it is the only viable way in which Palestinians will ever enjoy a sovereign state. Sadly this could have been achieved if there was a front united at least on this limited objective, since there is none the status quo with more deaths will continue.
 
That will only happen if the theory of Zionism is defeated. The best solution to the problem is actually to integrate Gaza and West bank into Israel, but that won't be acceptable to the Zionists as they have a racially motivated demographically engineered policy of a 'Jewish majority'.

The demographic change is so important that I see no other way for Israel to survive as a Jewish state without giving the Palestinians a state of their own. Sooner or later, it has to come to pass. That is why I disagree with @Chak Bamu over this portion of our discussion.
 
Israel has definitely lost the plot now..........they have gone bonkers!

Place them in your Arab/Persian stock and pray to Allah that we ain't one of them. At least our nation is multicultural has a rather pluralistic though hitherto unimplemented constitution and should we implement it properly we have a fighting chance.
 
When every single casualty out of three is a children and every eight casualty out of ten is civilian that's not just a "Missile Strike". It is murder and no, I am not a Hamas supporter.
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Israel has definitely lost the plot now..........they have gone bonkers!
Phew...I thought you worked for IDF at one point :whistle:

I see no other way for Israel to survive as a Jewish state without giving the Palestinians a state of their own.
You see it we see it but does Israel see it is the only concern here ...
 
Go ask them. They will probably tell you that so many years of isolation, and embargo, and lack of opportunities, and lack of negotiations, and lack of any progress whatsoever has turned them into desperadoes. What do those rockets achieve any way, apart from reminding Israelis that they can not expect peace when they do not give peace?


This happens in many places with many groups. It do not give you the right to kill people. If you look at many groups, you will witness how they come out of utter pathetic position. Take for example Jews. They were mass murdered in millions. Now they are about 5 million. How progress they have made!!! Not that much shining but a moderate example is India and china. Both countries have progressed a lot from almost nothing few years back.

Since Gazans can not go anywhere from the densely populated area, why are they being considered human shields? A shell has a margin of error and destructive radius combined in excess of half a kilometer, per this article. Why do you not have the guts to ask Israelis why they are using such imprecise ammunition in a densely populated area and are instead crying about human shields? What human shields? Is anyone in a radius of half a kilometer a human shield? What nonsense is this? How can you say such a thing? What motivates you to obfuscate the issue? Are you being deliberately daft?

This seems more of excuse to defend Hamas. When they fight a war they should know the rules of Game. Some of your statements are far from truth.
 

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