Europe carpets the Greeks but rolls out the red carpet for Narendra Modi. How’s that right?

[kakathiya]

'To rule' sounds too imperial. Its better to use politically correct terms like 'partnership'. We should have more European 'business partners'.

do you mean life partners

 

[Tridibans]

We still are...

Weren't u the one who was earlier praising delhi as india best city and all ? Claiming on other thread how india is dwveloping into a superpower... You seem a bit confused actually about your national identity. If what you claim is true that you are a Sikh, I am sorry to say this that I am yet to come across a Sikh as confused as you are in real life.

 

[acid rain]

they want to sell you more weapons!!
I goto Jewler's shop and he treats me like I am his long lost bothers

That's a win win...they are willing to sell and we are willing to buy, cannot get any easier than that.

 

[Dr. Sen]

do you mean life partners

Haha, no, I meant business partners.

 

[acid rain]

Aditya Chakarborrty .... Hallelujah a Secular spotted.

When did a commie become a secular?.

 

[East or West India Best]

Weren't u the one who was earlier praising delhi as india best city and all ? Claiming on other thread how india is dwveloping into a superpower... You seem a bit confused actually about your national identity. If what you claim is true that you are a Sikh, I am sorry to say this that I am yet to come across a Sikh as confused as you are in real life.

Are you dumb or what. Could you not tell that those posts were sarcastic? And I've NEVER said India is developing into a superpower. India is a developing country with African level poverty. It's VERY 3rd world. There is no need to look down upon African states when many like Nigeria are richer than India.

Also hindoo, what does my religion have to do anything with my national identity?

 

[Dr. Sen]

That's a win win...they are willing to sell and we are willing to buy, cannot get any easier than that.

Actually Modi will be opening the Hanover(Germany) trade fair. The main sponsor of this fair is the 'Make in India' brand. This will be used to show Indias manufacturing capabilities. This will bring business to India.

MAKE IN INDIA

Partner Country India - HANNOVER MESSE

Hannover Messe 2015

 

[Tridibans]

Are you dumb or what. Could you not tell that those posts were sarcastic? And I've NEVER said India is developing into a superpower. India is a developing country with African level poverty. It's VERY 3rd world. There is no need to look down upon African states when many like Nigeria are richer than India.

Also hindoo, what does my religion have to do anything with my national identity?

For once, I am not an Hindoo, secondly you again posted the same cap. There are ways to put forward your views... especially about your own nation. But you seem to hate everything about India or should I say Indians.

BTW, we are world's 10th largest economy, our poor are reducing by over 5% every decade , which translates to more people than your African examples in absolute terms. India has the best HDI in South Asia after Sri Lanka ....... and if you didn't know..... We are a developing nation and not a 3rd grade poverty stricken land as you seem to post everywhere.

 

[East or West India Best]

For once, I am not an Hindoo, secondly you again posted the same cap. There are ways to put forward your views... especially about your own nation. But you seem to hate everything about India or should I say Indians.

BTW, we are world's 10th largest economy, our poor are reducing by over 5% every decade , which translates to more people than your African examples in absolute terms. India has the best HDI in South Asia after Sri Lanka ....... and if you didn't know..... We are a developing nation and not a 3rd grade poverty stricken land as you seem to post everywhere.

I can't even being to comprehend how stupid your logic is. Pointing out flaws in India is tantamount to hating her and her people? People like you are the reason why India is in the state she is in: blind to reality.

10th largest economy means shit when you have 1 billion people. Idc about absolute values, adjusted wrt population, India does horribly. Having the highest HDI in South Asia is like being the tallest midget, you're still a midget. South Asia has the lowest HDI in Asia. If you ever get a chance to visit another country you will realize India is a 3rd world poverty stricken land.

 

[Dr. Sen]

For once, I am not an Hindoo, secondly you again posted the same cap. There are ways to put forward your views... especially about your own nation. But you seem to hate everything about India or should I say Indians.

BTW, we are world's 10th largest economy, our poor are reducing by over 5% every decade , which translates to more people than your African examples in absolute terms. India has the best HDI in South Asia after Sri Lanka ....... and if you didn't know..... We are a developing nation and not a 3rd grade poverty stricken land as you seem to post everywhere.

Haha let the world make fun of us still while they can, because soon they will have no points which to make fun of.

And by the way, we are. NIC i.e Newly Industrialized Country.

Newly industrialized country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edward P. Lazear: Want to Reduce Inequality? Consult China, Vietnam and India - WSJ

Eco-toilets provide fillip to Modi’s clean India vision - The Times of India

Times of India-21-Feb-2015
Our target for the next one year is to build 25,000 toilets and 1 lakh toilets by 2018.

Regarding this^^. Last years target has been reached, next years is set. Accordingly if continued, soon, the 'toilet jokes' will be a thing of the past.

And about the 'Rape in India' campaign done by the west, it is nowadays becoming popular knowledge, that rape in India is one of the lowest in the world per capita and THE lowest in South Asia.

Lets see if I missed anything:

Poverty(malnutrition)
Toilets
Rapes
??

Anything I missed?

 

[Anees]

Even David cameron visited india 4 times during his tenure and no return visit from an Indian Head of state. This is normally unheard of in diplomatic circles. This should tell you how much importance India gives to U.K.

On the other hand it could also be that Mr. cameron likes to travel at the drop of a hat at the expense of tax payer's money. Don't blame india for that too...

As long as India pays for European Made Goods I am OK with that.
Greece just takes, takes, takes

 

[Tridibans]

I can't even being to comprehend how stupid your logic is. Pointing out flaws in India is tantamount to hating her and her people? People like you are the reason why India is in the state she is in: blind to reality.

10th largest economy means shit when you have 1 billion people. Idc about absolute values, adjusted wrt population, India does horribly. Having the highest HDI in South Asia is like being the tallest midget, you're still a midget. South Asia has the lowest HDI in Asia. If you ever get a chance to visit another country you will realize India is a 3rd world poverty stricken land.

I have been staying in us and Canada all my life..... never found india "3rd world poverty stricken like Nigeria or somalia"...... India is a developing country. At par with China of 2000. We have a fair share of poor and destitute. But we also do have one of the fastest growing middle income group in the world.

Heck, we are on the verge of becoming world's fastest growing major economy . Now see whose logic is "dumb".

The original poster said India WAS a poverty stricken 3rd world shit hole two decades ago.... and I agree with it. But your hate seems a bit over the top.

@Dr. Sen ki bolbo dada.... ei manoosh ta ke aami 4-5 din theke dekhchi. ... ek er por ek gaadhar moton nijer desheri baaje baaje bol chhe. ....

 

[Anees]

May Krishna help the Author


Our routine hypocrisies are the most revealing. It is the everyday lies we tell ourselves and others that give the truth away. Which is why the next few days in Europe will be so telling. On Friday, India’s newish prime minister, Narendra Modi, touches down in Paris. There, a treat awaits: President François Hollande will take him on a romantic boat ride along the Seine, after which the two men hope to cut a few big deals.

Next on Modi’s itinerary is Angela Merkel. As you might have guessed, the German chancellor isn’t offering any such soft-focus photo-ops to her Indian counterpart. Still, she is giving him star treatment: the two leaders will jointly open Hanover’s enormous trade fair.

While all this is going on, the new Syriza-led government of cash-starved Greecewill be scrabbling for every last cent to repay the next €450m (£330m) instalment of the country’s loan from the IMF. To get the money together, Athens has been ransacking its health budget and the reserves of its public utilities. Syriza MPs I’ve spoken to are confident they’ll make their IMF deadline; what they can’t promise is having money left over to pay next month’s wages and pensions of Greece’s public servants. Then, at almost the same time Modi will be patrolling the stalls of Hanover, the Greek finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, will be getting roughed up in Brussels.

This is an everyday tale of two freshly minted governments getting two very different treatments from the heart of Europe. For Modi, the red carpet. For the Greeks, a carpeting. They get a lecturing from the so-called Socialists of France about prudence, while Varoufakis has been labelled by his German counterpart as “foolishly naive”. And they will certainly not be allowed to deviate from the calamitous austerity imposed upon them.

So what, you may say. Modi is offering slow-growth Europe access to a market of over a billion people, while the Greeks come bearing only a huge debt. One is greeted with a hug, the other deserves a punch. QED. Make mine a giant pint of yawn.

But this isn’t only about finances. To understand what’s wrong with this picture, you have to study the details. Let’s start with Modi, the leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP. The man who was chief minister of the state of Gujarat at the time of a massacre of Muslims that saw between 1,000 and 2,000 men, women and children murdered. The minimum charge against Modi, which he has never satisfactorily answered, is that he both encouraged the pogrom of 2002 then did nothing to stop it. Police officers are said to have told victims: “We have no orders to save you.”

Time and power wash away most sins and both have worked in Modi’s favour. Except that within a year of taking power, he is showing the same authoritarianism that marked his regime in Gujarat. His government has attacked Greenpeace, Action Aid, Amnesty International and other international NGOs as being “anti-development”. Vociferous critics and campaign groups are liable to go on a blacklist, and be blocked from receiving any foreign funding – even while their leader goes abroad touting for international investment.

And sometimes the tactics are even more blunt. Near the start of this year a Greenpeace activist, Priya Pillai, was asked to Westminster to address MPs on the effect of coal-mining on villagers. She checked in at Delhi airport, cleared security and had her boarding pass. Then, at the last minute, Indian officials told her she could not board the flight. They could not tell her why, apart from that the government of India forbade her to leave the country.

Pillai had done nothing wrong – apart from campaign against forest-destroying, community-displacing, environment-wrecking coal mines. That was enough to put her on the new regime’s blacklist. Members of Modi’s party called her “anti-national”. Journalists friendly to the government began hounding her – even while her father lay dying in hospital after an accident. Then, two months later, the Delhi high court ruled she should never have been blocked. By then, of course, the signal had been sent to all other critics of the new rulers of the world’s largest democracy: do not get in our way. Talking to me this weekend, Pillai summed up how she had broken Modi’s law. “My only offence is that I have an opinion that doesn’t coincide with yours. I have a dream of development that is different from yours.”

This is a classic example of the Modi operandi. While spouting the poisonous rhetoric of Hindu extremism, he has given big business whatever they want and kicked their opponents out of the way. Ruling Gujarat, he chucked prize public land, soft loans (at 0.1% interest) and favours at major companies. In return, they have funded and supported him all the way to Delhi. You want to see what business support looks like? Forget letters to the Telegraph; two months ago, Modi’s party held a special ceremony for over 100 business leaders – from Lufthansa, AT&T, bankers – who joined the BJP en masse.

Meanwhile, supposedly independent organisations involved in everything from historical research to film censorship have been stuffed with acolytes of the Hindu right, however unqualified. Civil-society critics in India now talk of a “shrinking of democratic space”: their freedom of expression remains, but they know the consequences if they use it.

Modi is a democratically elected authoritarian, but he is one with whom Merkel and Hollande are happy to do business. Delhi has already signed defence deals with Europe; and more will doubtless be written over the next few days. Athens, on the other hand, is being starved even of liquidity. If things carry on like this then, by the end of this summer, Syriza will either take Greece out of the euro or – however large its democratic mandate – it will be forced to chuck its electoral promises and capitulate.

What this humdrum week in the life of Europe shows you then is that its leaders can only handle a very limited democracy. For as long as I can remember, politicians from Jacques Delors to Gordon Brown have promised a “social Europe”, one that manages market forces. That is not the show you’ll get this week.

Instead, what will be celebrated is a democracy that kisses up to capital, while locking away its critics. One that uses state power to direct assets and money to the rich. Hollande and Merkel couldn’t make the case for Nigel Farage and Marine Le Pen better if they tried.

Europe carpets the Greeks but rolls out the red carpet for Narendra Modi. How’s that right? | Aditya Chakrabortty | Comment is free | The Guardian

Bizare linking of the Greek problems with those of India.

 

[Dr. Sen]

@Dr. Sen ki bolbo dada.... ei manoosh ta ke aami 4-5 din theke dekhchi. ... ek er por ek gaadhar moton nijer desheri baaje baaje bol chhe. ....

Tumi ki kore jano je e amader desher? Amar tyo mone hoche onno desher ba onno dhormer.

 

[IND151]

May Krishna help the Author


Our routine hypocrisies are the most revealing. It is the everyday lies we tell ourselves and others that give the truth away. Which is why the next few days in Europe will be so telling. On Friday, India’s newish prime minister, Narendra Modi, touches down in Paris. There, a treat awaits: President François Hollande will take him on a romantic boat ride along the Seine, after which the two men hope to cut a few big deals.

Next on Modi’s itinerary is Angela Merkel. As you might have guessed, the German chancellor isn’t offering any such soft-focus photo-ops to her Indian counterpart. Still, she is giving him star treatment: the two leaders will jointly open Hanover’s enormous trade fair.

While all this is going on, the new Syriza-led government of cash-starved Greecewill be scrabbling for every last cent to repay the next €450m (£330m) instalment of the country’s loan from the IMF. To get the money together, Athens has been ransacking its health budget and the reserves of its public utilities. Syriza MPs I’ve spoken to are confident they’ll make their IMF deadline; what they can’t promise is having money left over to pay next month’s wages and pensions of Greece’s public servants. Then, at almost the same time Modi will be patrolling the stalls of Hanover, the Greek finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, will be getting roughed up in Brussels.

This is an everyday tale of two freshly minted governments getting two very different treatments from the heart of Europe. For Modi, the red carpet. For the Greeks, a carpeting. They get a lecturing from the so-called Socialists of France about prudence, while Varoufakis has been labelled by his German counterpart as “foolishly naive”. And they will certainly not be allowed to deviate from the calamitous austerity imposed upon them.

So what, you may say. Modi is offering slow-growth Europe access to a market of over a billion people, while the Greeks come bearing only a huge debt. One is greeted with a hug, the other deserves a punch. QED. Make mine a giant pint of yawn.

But this isn’t only about finances. To understand what’s wrong with this picture, you have to study the details. Let’s start with Modi, the leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP. The man who was chief minister of the state of Gujarat at the time of a massacre of Muslims that saw between 1,000 and 2,000 men, women and children murdered. The minimum charge against Modi, which he has never satisfactorily answered, is that he both encouraged the pogrom of 2002 then did nothing to stop it. Police officers are said to have told victims: “We have no orders to save you.”

Time and power wash away most sins and both have worked in Modi’s favour. Except that within a year of taking power, he is showing the same authoritarianism that marked his regime in Gujarat. His government has attacked Greenpeace, Action Aid, Amnesty International and other international NGOs as being “anti-development”. Vociferous critics and campaign groups are liable to go on a blacklist, and be blocked from receiving any foreign funding – even while their leader goes abroad touting for international investment.

And sometimes the tactics are even more blunt. Near the start of this year a Greenpeace activist, Priya Pillai, was asked to Westminster to address MPs on the effect of coal-mining on villagers. She checked in at Delhi airport, cleared security and had her boarding pass. Then, at the last minute, Indian officials told her she could not board the flight. They could not tell her why, apart from that the government of India forbade her to leave the country.

Pillai had done nothing wrong – apart from campaign against forest-destroying, community-displacing, environment-wrecking coal mines. That was enough to put her on the new regime’s blacklist. Members of Modi’s party called her “anti-national”. Journalists friendly to the government began hounding her – even while her father lay dying in hospital after an accident. Then, two months later, the Delhi high court ruled she should never have been blocked. By then, of course, the signal had been sent to all other critics of the new rulers of the world’s largest democracy: do not get in our way. Talking to me this weekend, Pillai summed up how she had broken Modi’s law. “My only offence is that I have an opinion that doesn’t coincide with yours. I have a dream of development that is different from yours.”

This is a classic example of the Modi operandi. While spouting the poisonous rhetoric of Hindu extremism, he has given big business whatever they want and kicked their opponents out of the way. Ruling Gujarat, he chucked prize public land, soft loans (at 0.1% interest) and favours at major companies. In return, they have funded and supported him all the way to Delhi. You want to see what business support looks like? Forget letters to the Telegraph; two months ago, Modi’s party held a special ceremony for over 100 business leaders – from Lufthansa, AT&T, bankers – who joined the BJP en masse.

Meanwhile, supposedly independent organisations involved in everything from historical research to film censorship have been stuffed with acolytes of the Hindu right, however unqualified. Civil-society critics in India now talk of a “shrinking of democratic space”: their freedom of expression remains, but they know the consequences if they use it.

Modi is a democratically elected authoritarian, but he is one with whom Merkel and Hollande are happy to do business. Delhi has already signed defence deals with Europe; and more will doubtless be written over the next few days. Athens, on the other hand, is being starved even of liquidity. If things carry on like this then, by the end of this summer, Syriza will either take Greece out of the euro or – however large its democratic mandate – it will be forced to chuck its electoral promises and capitulate.

What this humdrum week in the life of Europe shows you then is that its leaders can only handle a very limited democracy. For as long as I can remember, politicians from Jacques Delors to Gordon Brown have promised a “social Europe”, one that manages market forces. That is not the show you’ll get this week.

Instead, what will be celebrated is a democracy that kisses up to capital, while locking away its critics. One that uses state power to direct assets and money to the rich. Hollande and Merkel couldn’t make the case for Nigel Farage and Marine Le Pen better if they tried.

Europe carpets the Greeks but rolls out the red carpet for Narendra Modi. How’s that right? | Aditya Chakrabortty | Comment is free | The Guardian

The reason is obvious, Greece is debt ridden, India is South Asian Economic Powerhouse, world's second fastest growing economy.

India too faced economic crisis in 1991. But India took challange and our policy makers turned India into South Asian Economic Powerhouse. The only trllion dollar economy in Sout Asia.

The European leaders are wise and know where their interests lie.