EU envoys call off meeting with Geelani

[RayBan]

iss gilaneee ki sunta kon hai ? hahahahaha

 

[great]

first of all, it wasn't even relevant to discussion

second of all, its a failed argument from the get-go since Balochistan isn't disputed territory (kind of like how Assam, West Bengal, Deccan Hyderabad etc. are not disputed territory )

Kashmir, however is....and internationally, it is recognized as disputed territory. That was the point I was trying to make, before you went off on your little tangent.

I don't think India cares of how Kashmir is seen internationally. India will always maintain it to be our integral part. This particular decision shows that there is a tacit approval from EU as well. Then there is Arab League quoting recently that they have no particular qualms about Kashmir. So I see it as advantage India.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I don't think India cares of how Kashmir is seen internationally. India will always maintain it to be our integral part. This particular decision shows that there is a tacit approval from EU as well. Then there is Arab League quoting recently that they have no particular qualms about Kashmir. So I see it as advantage India.

india can maintain whatever she cares to maintain; but it can't be integral part of india if it requires iron-fist occupation and AFSPA

if the people were with india, supprorted india and even went the extra mile by denouncing Pakistan ''interference'' then maybe you'd win the debate. However, we saw even during the recent intifada that such is far from the case; and in fact Kashmiris are demanding that the occupational forces (sissies) withdraw from the territory completely

so just by looking at the actual ground realities instead of hearing digested information from new delhi, the signs are very telling

Balochis feel it so.

Check the Balochi history.

And check what happened after Independence.

majority of Baloch are pro-Pakistan and in fact many view the rebel groups as a bigger enemy to Baloch people than to even Pakistan as a whole.

and I dont need indians to try to teach me history about my own countrymen. You talk about Baloch when india is the country where massive genocides against sikhs and other communities took place on much larger scale. In reality, there are of course grievences but those are against the federal govt. and not against the entity of Pakistan.


whereas I can point to you several areas in india where ethnic groups not only have issue with the center, but with the country as a whole. Just look at the Bengalis in india for example.



regards

 

[Jade]

The world now is seeing the real picture of the so called Kashmir dispute.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I don't think India cares of how Kashmir is seen internationally. India will always maintain it to be our integral part.

Yes maintained it by force and against the wishes of majority kashmiri. Yes you dont care about international laws. Do you?

 

[Abhishek_]

a bunch of paid thugs do not represent all of kashmiri populace. whine all you want in your fancy "stance"

You want to know the Kashmiri people's stance. Look at the voter turnout, assuming you know what elections are
J&K panchayat polls record 80% turnout - Hindustan Times

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

that's a lot of paid thugs then....remember Lal Chowk??

 

[Jade]

a bunch of paid thugs do not represent all of kashmiri populace. whine all you want in your fancy "stance"

That is so true...this bunch of paid thugs do not even represent the Valley forget the Kashmir Populace

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

a bunch of paid thugs do not represent all of kashmiri populace. whine all you want in your fancy "stance"

You want to know the Kashmiri people's stance. Look at the voter turnout, assuming you know what elections are
J&K panchayat polls record 80% turnout - Hindustan Times

Hindu times cannot represent the feelings of Muslims within kahmir region

 

[Abhishek_]

that's a lot of paid thugs then....remember Lal Chowk??

can't argue with people who live the past days of glory. more power to you mate.
and yes those indeed are a lot of thugs, your ISI will be well advised to pay for the electricity bills rather than these schmucks

 

[foxbat]

Yes maintained it by force and against the wishes of majority kashmiri. Yes you dont care about international laws. Do you?

You mean the international laws like not hosting declared terrorists in milllion dollar mansions?? or just the ones convenient for Pakistan??

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

^ UN resolution

 

[foxbat]

that's a lot of paid thugs then....remember Lal Chowk??

remember Lal Masjid.. ?? Does that make the whole of Islamabad fanatic??

 

[foxbat]

^ UN resolution

So just the ones convenient for Pakistan ??

 

[Abhishek_]

^ UN resolution

UN resolution also insists withdrawal of all security forces by PA before India is required to do so.