EU envoys call off meeting with Geelani

[Abu Zolfiqar]

^^^ That great diplomatic victory was amongst Islamic countries - which most run to the US for protection. On top of that it was a limited group having zip for influence- plus your diplomat begged for a mention and they reluctantly add just words to a meaningless declaration. .

Fehmida Mirza is our speakers of the house; she isn't even representing Pakistan @ the OIC though she did lead the parliamentary delegation @ the event in Abu Dhabi.

second of all, if you claim it's ''begging'' then that is your own problem. Some of you people are funny. When indian gets something they want it's called super-duper-shining-superpower indian diplomatic ''victory'' but when Pakistanis secure a diplomatic victory you call it ''begging''

you people need to grow up and not let frustration and inferiority complex dictate or have influence over what you write...And do you have proof that they ''reluctantly add just words'' or as usual you're saying things out of emotion and not based on established fact?


look forward to your reponse

I have reiterated this a few time, this Geelani guy is doing more harm to "Kashmiri" cause than good. EU now thinks Kashmiris are a bunch of OBL sympathizers. India couldn't have asked for anything more. Thanking Gilani

very true, couldnt agree more...

Kashmiri nationalism and resistance should not be mistaken as terrorism or supporting terrorism. Because it is not. It is simply occupied people who are resisting that occupation, and suffering because of the occupation.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The Balochistan Independence movement too should not be seen as terrorism.

It is an issue of resisting Pakistan occupation and imperialism.

I think that is what the world feels.

Xe is helping them along.

But then that is only moral support!

Now, when did Pakistan come into being?

8th Century, right and not 1947?

Talking of inferiority complex!

reinventing history!!

 

[Pioneerfirst]

Osama Bin Laden was an enemy of Islam,Pakistan and Muslims, Mr.Gelaani should not have prayed for him.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Balochistan is not disputed territory. Kashmir is. . .

nice try my son....a lot of your people have tried to make this artificial connection but you won't be able to sell this idea here. Besides, the Balochistan insurgency is fairly low level. The Kashmir intifada is a lot older and more widespread. Anti-indian pro-freedom sentiment is extremely high in Kashmir on both sides of the LoC. Undeniable fact.

this doesnt necessarily mean that Kashmiris are all pro-Pakistan. A good number are pro-independence actually.

 

[nForce]

surely someone will and can replace him. APHC is still very influential in occupied Kashmir, where anti-indian sentiment always has been at all-time high.

It shows because every time they declare bandhs, the people do listen. Whereas spineless puppets like Mr. Abdallah are often snubbed and ridiculed. He has more supporters in Delhi than he does among Kashmiri patriots.

I have not seen any new and young leader.Have you noticed one?
I dont know how these incessant bandhs and strikes will do any good to the common Kashmiri people.They are hurting them where it hurts the most,their source of income.

 

[JayAtl]

Fehmida Mirza is our speakers of the house; she isn't even representing Pakistan @ the OIC though she did lead the parliamentary delegation @ the event in Abu Dhabi.

Now that is one brilliant statement. she is a speaker of the house representing a " parliamentary delegation" but not representing Pakistan. Is that like every root to terrorist act found within Pakistan is not really within Pakistan but rather by a " non state -- actor state"?

second of all, if you claim it's ''begging'' then that is your own problem. Some of you people are funny. When indian gets something they want it's called super-duper-shining-superpower indian diplomatic ''victory'' but when Pakistanis secure a diplomatic victory you call it ''begging''

if India would get some less than 3rd world influencing body, to call Pakistan failed state it would deserve my same laughter towards it. But have to give India diplomatic props for getting EU and developed nations to call pakistan a terrorist haven .

you people need to grow up and not let frustration and inferiority complex dictate or have influence over what you write...And do you have proof that they ''reluctantly add just words'' or as usual you're saying things out of emotion and not based on established fact?

first of all , I'm American , not sure who was the you in the " you people", reference. regardless I don't think anyone has an inferiority complex towards pakistan. I mean seriously. Secondly, the article states it was not even in the agenda till your speaker protested on the day of conf and they added language but never discussed the issue , while discussing all others issues stated in that declaration within that 2 day small timers conference. that conference had as much as influence as my kids baseball team over US foreign policy


Have a nice day

 

[khurasaan1]

I have reiterated this a few time, this Geelani guy is doing more harm to "Kashmiri" cause than good. EU now thinks Kashmiris are a bunch of OBL sympathizers. India couldn't have asked for anything better. Thank you Gilani

The intrusion in Kashmir is infact run by MI6....and they wanna control indian reins through this process....

 

[Roybot]

very true, couldnt agree more...

Kashmiri nationalism and resistance should not be mistaken as terrorism or supporting terrorism. Because it is not. It is simply occupied people who are resisting that occupation, and suffering because of the occupation.

Well the damage has been done already. With Gilani calling OBL a hero of the muslim Ummah and demanding Shariah Law for Kashmir, its all over for the Kashmiri freedom campaign, at least in the Western world anyways. Western powers find the notion of demanding separate nation on the basis of religion unreasonable as it is, and then you throw sympathizing with OBL and shariah law in the mix, no Western country would want anything to do with such an issue.

Things are looking grim for "Azadi" at the moment. Credit for that goes to Gilani.

 

[Roybot]

The intrusion in Kashmir is infact run by MI6....and they wanna control indian reins through this process....

Not another conspiracy theory!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Abu,

Bachhe, kar le gal!

It must be fun to be in denial!

Stating facts is not being in denial.

I think it must feel weird that you (hindustany) have the need to post on a Pakistani defence forum thinking you will sell your emotional garbage and diatribes here.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Well the damage has been done already. With Gilani calling OBL a hero of the muslim Ummah and demanding Shariah Law for Kashmir, its all over for the Kashmiri freedom campaign, at least in the Western world anyways. Western powers find the notion of demanding separate nation on the basis of religion unreasonable as it is, and then you throw sympathizing with OBL and shariah law in the mix, no Western country would want anything to do with such an issue.

Things are looking grim for "Azadi" at the moment. Credit for that goes to Gilani.

he's an influential figurehead, but the Kashmiri resistance doesn't require on just one. It would be a mistake to think that his words mean that Kashmiri nationalism would be affected.

incidentally, Kashmiri seperatists are not just Islamist or religious-leaning --many are also secular.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Stating facts is not being in denial.

I think it must feel weird that you (hindustany) have the need to post on a Pakistani defence forum thinking you will sell your emotional garbage and diatribes here.

Where is emotion involved?

Just pure facts.

Didn't like the Balochi side of the story?

Or are you obfuscating since it is embarrassing after a lecture full of hot air and gob gas?

I post on international fora and not only here.

So, what's the big deal?

You feel one should not post on a Pakistani forum because he is an Indian?

Why?

Is there something weird to be a human being and interact with all?

Are you suggesting that Pakistani are not human beings like the rest of the world?

What is your point?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Soon one will hear that Geelani is an Indian agent!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Just pure facts.

Didn't like the Balochi side of the story?

Or are you obfuscating since it is embarrassing after a lecture full of hot air and gob gas?

first of all, it wasn't even relevant to discussion

second of all, its a failed argument from the get-go since Balochistan isn't disputed territory (kind of like how Assam, West Bengal, Deccan Hyderabad etc. are not disputed territory )

Kashmir, however is....and internationally, it is recognized as disputed territory. That was the point I was trying to make, before you went off on your little tangent.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Balochis feel it so.

Check the Balochi history.

And check what happened after Independence.