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Erdogan has no place in the EU

"I wish to avoid a rupture because (Turkey) is an essential partner in many crises we jointly face, specifically the migration challenge and the terrorist threat," Macron told the Kathimerini newspaper."

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EU must avoid rupture with Turkey, France’s Macron says

"Macron also underlined Thursday that he remained in "very regular contact" with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan." ( :D at that one)

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So does Merkel.

The current status is perfect. Turkey will never join EU. At the other ahnd it can be used as outside scapegoat to push for internal unity. It can be blackmailed and used as common seen scum.

Turkey could only join EU when all memberstates vote yes.

Something that will never happen. In Germany 80% are against it. Austria is absolute against it. Italy is absolute against it. Greece will never agree France made clear it will first call for a national referendum in that case, which will have a no as result.

An turkey EU membership is a diplomatic fiction. And since Merkel said she will not support tax union with turkey, this project is off the table as well.

:D
Meanwhile ist important to strengthen tur kurds in their fight agaist ISIS and i´m proud that Italy sends weapons and money as support.

vlad killed more of his own people,his brother radu the handsome even sided with the turks,he was defeated in the end.

richard the lionheart had respect for them.

Sure they do man. I can post pictures if you like.


Richard lived 300 years before the Ottomans even existed. :D

Sure move on, show me something from Ottoman empire that can impress an Italian. Show me something that we dont have in far better status.

Throughout the EU?

You asked for the status and thats EU status.

Now to women. Why are women in your culture treated like dirt?

Please show me a female general from Pakistan.

Why has your country no 100% equality of men and women? Thats far more important than the fate of a cell clump.
 
Turkey should look east for a serious relationship, it's where the rest of the world is headed. I would still say continue the EU talks, but only to get concessions out of the Europeans.

The EU is crumbling apart, there will still be wealthy European nations, but no single bloc. Brexit is step 1, wait for the aftermath of Brexit, wait for 10 years and see what other countries think when they see that Britain has rebounded from Brexit.
 
Turkey should look east for a serious relationship, it's where the rest of the world is headed. I would still say continue the EU talks, but only to get concessions out of the Europeans.

The EU is crumbling apart, there will still be wealthy European nations, but no single bloc. Brexit is step 1, wait for the aftermath of Brexit, wait for 10 years and see what other countries think when they see that Britain has rebounded from Brexit.


The EU is crumbling apart? Its an economic superpower with unmatched unity. UK is punished for its BREXIt attempts and loses business. Insiders say BREXIt ropably will never happen anyways.

Turkey should ehad east? East to what?

The china that loves to block Turks from entry? Or from russia, which bombed hundreds of turks into oblivion and humilated Turkey into Erdog crawling to Moscow and beg for forgiveness?

What concessions? Merkel only mentiond to stop the tax union and Erdo releases two prisoners.

Turkey depends absolute on trade with Europe and has no other option.
Which is quite ok.
 
Europe can't grow and grow and grow.
We already are too much. And the main EU rule (100% must agree to ratify a decision) is too limiting.

I think we will see a Europe with 2 speed : a central node with Benelux, Deutschland, France, Italy, northern states and another one with all the others.

And Turkey has nothing to do with the first or second circle, specially when a autocrat radical muslim leader as Erdogan is driving the country.

Autocrat, Muslim, third world = all but EU.
 
So does Merkel.

The current status is perfect. Turkey will never join EU. At the other ahnd it can be used as outside scapegoat to push for internal unity. It can be blackmailed and used as common seen scum.

Turkey could only join EU when all memberstates vote yes.

Something that will never happen. In Germany 80% are against it. Austria is absolute against it. Italy is absolute against it. Greece will never agree France made clear it will first call for a national referendum in that case, which will have a no as result.

An turkey EU membership is a diplomatic fiction. And since Merkel said she will not support tax union with turkey, this project is off the table as well.

:D
Meanwhile ist important to strengthen tur kurds in their fight agaist ISIS and i´m proud that Italy sends weapons and money as support.




Richard lived 300 years before the Ottomans even existed. :D

Sure move on, show me something from Ottoman empire that can impress an Italian. Show me something that we dont have in far better status.



You asked for the status and thats EU status.

Now to women. Why are women in your culture treated like dirt?

Please show me a female general from Pakistan.

Why has your country no 100% equality of men and women? Thats far more important than the fate of a cell clump.
3rd crusade

Turkey has the world's oldest and biggest malls,Tulips came from turkey,Europe's 2nd oldest underground railway,
Agriculture started in catalhoyuk and turkey has more than 10,000 different species of plants. Now for some pictures from turkey.
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Turkey is the only place where Muslims,Christians and hebrews can co-exist in peace. Italians on the other hand are the most racist and intolerant whites on earth. hicks don't even come close to them.
Turkey is also famous for having the most beautiful women in the world. These are not my words but also words of a black historian after my trip to turkey I agreed with him.


Women are not treated like dirt in Pakistan I have lived there for sometime.
It takes a long time to become a general.
 
3rd crusade

Turkey has the world's oldest and biggest malls,Tulips came from turkey,Europe's 2nd oldest underground railway,
Agriculture started in catalhoyuk and turkey has more than 10,000 different species of plants. Now for some pictures from turkey.
turkey-pamukkale-940x588.jpg

turkey-cappadocia-stone-940x622.jpg

ephesus1-940x940.jpg

Hattusa-2-940x705.jpg

turkey-nemrut-dag1-940x588.jpg

hqdefault.jpg

Turkey is the only place where Muslims,Christians and hebrews can co-exist in peace. Italians on the other hand are the most racist and intolerant whites on earth. hicks don't even come close to them.
Turkey is also famous for having the most beautiful women in the world. These are not my words but also words of a black historian after my trip to turkey I agreed with him.


Women are not treated like dirt in Pakistan I have lived there for sometime.
It takes a long time to become a general.


You are propably kidding me.

Tulips come from Persia.

Your first picture is a natural thing that has nothing to do with turks.

Your 2nd picture is some caves. So what? We have that as well, just better.

Your 3rd picture is the theatre of Ephesus. Thats a roman theatre. Build by my ancestors.

There exist almost no christians in Turkey and almost no Jews. Turkey killed one million christians and most of the remaining ones escaped this hellhole. Its not allowed to build new churches in Turkey. Christians are persecuted and harrassed.

Turkish women and beautiful? With all due respect, only when you like unibrows.

So now you showed me nature stuff and all architecture was build long before turks existed.

Whats wrong? You could not find a single building made from Turks that would impress an Italian? Something we dont have? (I still must laugh that you posted an roman theatre to impress me, i´m impressed, because i love my ancestors. :), but you wanted show something turkish)
 
You are propably kidding me.

Tulips come from Persia.

Your first picture is a natural thing that has nothing to do with turks.

Your 2nd picture is some caves. So what? We have that as well, just better.

Your 3rd picture is the theatre of Ephesus. Thats a roman theatre. Build by my ancestors.

There exist almost no christians in Turkey and almost no Jews. Turkey killed one million christians and most of the remaining ones escaped this hellhole. Its not allowed to build new churches in Turkey. Christians are persecuted and harrassed.

Turkish women and beautiful? With all due respect, only when you like unibrows.

So now you showed me nature stuff and all architecture was build long before turks existed.

Whats wrong? You could not find a single building made from Turks that would impress an Italian? Something we dont have? (I still must laugh that you posted an roman theatre to impress me, i´m impressed, because i love my ancestors. :), but you wanted show something turkish)
Markus, cant you just shut up about topics you have no clue about?

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Syriac Christians to build Turkey’s first new church
 
Offcourse.

A major Muslim country will never ever ever be accepted by Europeans among itself. No matter how much sacrifice that country gave for European allies and cause.

They'll blame Erdogan now...before that it was "undemocratic Turkey"....and before that, it was "Oh economically Turkey isn't ready yet"

They'll keep coming up with excuses after excuses after excuses...

Let's be real: As long as Turks identify with their Turkish heritage and do not completely give up their culture/heritage and start to ape European culture to appease Europeans---they'll never be accepted in EU.
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Yeah, meanwhile there are European countries that dont allow building new mosques at all.

Yes. One of those nations is mine. And i´m proud for that. Back to the roots amigo.

Wasn´t it the best time, when the italian republics were in constant conflict with the Turks. It was exciting, wasnt it?
 

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