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Erdogan has no place in the EU

Why does Turkey remain under the illusion that it should be apart of the EU?

Benefits to Turkey
Upon accession to the EU, Turkey expects to receive economic development aid similar to what Ireland, Greece and Portugal received.[citation needed]There is also an expectation that there will be an increase in European foreign investment in the Turkish economy, further driving economic growth. Additionally, in times of economic crisis, Turkey could expect economic assistance from the EU,[citation needed] similar to what Ireland, Greece and Portugal received after the 2008 financial crisis.

Free movement of people across the EU will give many Turkish people the opportunity to easily migrate to other parts of Europe in search of work, or a higher standard of living. The option of migration out of Turkey will inevitably ease tensions in the east of the country, as the prospect of a better standard of living will tend to cool separatist tendencies. Some secularists in Turkey envisage that the accession of Turkey will contribute to the spread of secular western values in Turkey. Conversely, some non-secularists in Turkey envisage that accession will contribute to the further growth and acceptance of Islam in Europe. The EU accession bid has stimulated Turkey's political and legal reforms and intensified the democratisation process.[97]

Given Turkey's large and growing population, Turkey will have a correspondingly large representation in the European Parliament. This will give Turkey strong direct influence over EU policies. Membership in the EU will also increase Turkey's prestige regionally and internationally.

source - Wikipedia.
 
it was always the western wannabe liberal secular type turks dream to be Europeans

Muslim Turks never had this ambition

Erdogan never had this ambition, just play the game, get what you can and keep going
 
The 60s/70s/80s/90s were different times for Turkey. In economic/military/political aspects. What benefit does the potential accession to EU provide Turkey?

You already have the right to market.
You already have the right to visas.
You already had the military cooperation.

Do you really want to sacrifice the right to an independent fiscal policy? Or foreign policy?



You should look at maps.

Not sure we have the Visa agreement.

But we have free trade agreement with the EU, we can export and import just like any EU country can.

So I see no reason for membership, we will be used like Greece.

Highest minimum wage is Australia
Strongest country is USA
UK is very successful too
Canada is successful too

There is no need to be in the EU.

I think the real reason is France and Germany, they want to keep their power in the EU.

If Turkey joins we will have so much voting rights in EU because of Turkeys population and France and Germany will not be bosses any more.

Given Turkey's large and growing population, Turkey will have a correspondingly large representation in the European Parliament. This will give Turkey strong direct influence over EU policies.

Exactly, the real reason Germany and France don't want Turkey in the EU is because they don't want to share the power in the Eu Parliament.

Population = voting power
 
& this is coming from an italian...




Sorry couldn't resist.

Well we Italians blocked the Turks over hundreds of years and kicked them out of Libya. If you have a low opinion about us, how low must it be about Turks then? After all we beat them in evry war.

Good part of Turkeye and a major city lies in Europe, so by which logic Europe is denying Turkish entry into the union?

Turkey is muslim. Turkey is middle eastern by culture. Turkey is a dictatorship. Turkey has a border with syria, iran and iraq.

Sorry but no.
 
Well we Italians blocked the Turks over hundreds of years and kicked them out of Libya. If you have a low opinion about us, how low must it be about Turks then? After all we beat them in evry war.



Turkey is muslim. Turkey is middle eastern by culture. Turkey is a dictatorship. Turkey has a border with syria, iran and iraq.

Sorry but no.
Do you really want me to list italian military "accomplishment?"

I think Napoleon said it better that the only reason the italian army exist is so the Austrian have someone to beat.

Yeah I mean its too easy. So lets just drop it okay. Sorry about it. Just poking fun.
 
Well we Italians blocked the Turks over hundreds of years and kicked them out of Libya. If you have a low opinion about us, how low must it be about Turks then? After all we beat them in evry war.



Turkey is muslim. Turkey is middle eastern by culture. Turkey is a dictatorship. Turkey has a border with syria, iran and iraq.

Sorry but no.

Hey gypsy boy please post a picture of your gypsy self again :sarcastic:
 
Fabulous Byzantine history and architecture.

You do realize that the so called "byzantine" population didn't all pack up and leave right?

Hittites, Byzantines and all the others in history.

Everyone in Turkey is still the same people.

I'm actually proud, we invented the coin/money, we invented the fork, Santa Claus is from Turkey, Noahs Ark is in Turkey, worlds oldest temple is in Turkey and so on.
 
You do realize that the so called "byzantine" population didn't all pack up and leave right?

Hittites, Byzantines and all the others in history.

Everyone in Turkey is still the same people.

I'm actually proud, we invented the coin/money, we invented the fork, Santa Claus is from Turkey, Noahs Ark is in Turkey, worlds oldest temple is in Turkey and so on.
Sure, it's a great place but a lot of the fabulous iconic architecture is from that period too.
 

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