English Racist Organization [EDL] Gets a "Sikh" leader.

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[Unbeliever]

Since there are blacks, whites, "browns" and Jews in the EDL, I don't think you can call them racist.

They might be politically extreme, but racist doesn't make sense.. They are inclusive in terms of race.

 

[888jamie888]

The EDL and the BNP have always been a bit dodgy. A few of their members have been accused of being involved in attacks against ethnics and starting fights.

 

[Mo12]

Quite dissapointed, Sikhs and Hindus should be neutral in this fight between EDL and Islamic radicals. They should just let the police take care of them.

 

[IndoCarib]

EDL is not racist, they are just nationalists. OP is confused about these 2 terms.

 

[cyphercide]

Pathetic.Keep dreaming about your perfect little utopia fantasizing about eradicating Muslims from the United Kingdom.Once that objective is completed,guess who your English pals will be coming after then?Hindus and Sikhs like us? You bet!

 

[IndoCarib]

Pathetic.Keep dreaming about your perfect little utopia fantasizing about eradicating Muslims from the United Kingdom.Once that objective is completed,guess who your English pals will be coming after then?Hindus and Sikhs like us? You bet!

EDL is not against Muslims. They only oppose radical Islam and Sharia law

 

[swabi zalmay]

lol They get beat up in Bradford,Birmingham etc, they are cowards and a waste of time.

 

[cyphercide]

EDL is not against Muslims. They only oppose radical Islam and Sharia law

Did you even see the video?The speaker opposes serving halal meat in KFC restaurants because according to him the majority of the English population doesn't consume it?Islamism and Nazism are two sides of the same coin?Since when does halal meat come under radical Islam or Sharia law or equating Islam to Nazism benign nationalism?You cannot deny the racial undertones of the message.

Going by the bumbling idiot's logic,Hindu restaurants in the UK should have beef in their menus as most Westerners prefer it as their choice of meat.

 

[fd24]

EDL is not against Muslims. They only oppose radical Islam and Sharia law

I live in the uk and i know EDL is an extreme of hatred of all races. To think you can walk past a group associated with the EDL and they wont abuse you because of your skin colour then you live in dreamland. They are hardly going to come up to you check what you are.
A statement comes to mind (by Martin Niemoller).

"First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me."

 

[Windjammer]

Watching the Sikh guy, the term "Mhela Angrez" comes to mind.
He seems to have lost his own identity by not supporting a turban............... criticism on others is even more convenient.

 

[Kambojaric]

Lol, confused people exist everywhere i guess. I agree with a previous poster, once the muslims will be chucked out whos next? Hindus and turban wearing sikhs. Then it will be black, then it will be non english whites, then it will be dark looking english. Such racist people will never be happy.

Theres a similar example of an Iranian guy here in Sweden who has joined Swedens version of the EDL changed his name from Mohammad Gharachorloo to Samuel Älgmalm, and "converted" to christianity (even though hes communist?). He makes a living by cursing and abusing Muslims. Confused man.

 

[Unbeliever]

You cannot deny the racial undertones of the message.

I am not saying the EDL is not extreme, but Islam/Muslims is not a race..

They proclaim to be against Islamisation/radical Islam, but maybe that is just a facade, I don't know.

Theres a similar example of an Iranian guy here in Sweden who has joined Swedens version of the EDL...

There is a Swedish version of the EDL? What organization are you talking about?

 

[cyphercide]

I am not saying the EDL is not extreme, but Islam/Muslims is not a race..

They proclaim to be against Islamisation/radical Islam, but maybe that is just a facade, I don't know.

Xenophobia and discrimination against minorities are accepted as a manifestations of cultural racism.The same way Antisemitism is identified and condemned as racial discrimination,Islamophobia is no different and is in fact on the rise in the Western Hemisphere.

Islamisation and radical Islam are terms that right wing groups use to justify their soft bigotry and escape legal ramifications.They include people from other minorities so as to proclaim that their point of view is endorsed by the majority of the populous.But a objective analysis of their speeches prove an inherent hatred pointed towards Muslims.

Consider what the speaker is trying to say in this case.He's stating that serving halal meat in KFC restaurants is wrong because the majority of English people do not consume it.But let's look at it objectively,Why does KFC serve halal meat? It's a marketing tactic so as to assure Muslim customers buy the food that they serve.It's good for the business establishment and has a great ethical stand that KFC cares about Muslim sentiments.

Yet what the EDL speaker is trying to imply is that KFC was forced to adopt such a stance.He tries to paint a picture of "Angry Muslims barging inside KFC outlets demanding that they serve halal meat or else suffer the violent consequences" that plays into the fears of his already xenophobic friends listening intently.Of course,he goes on to call "Islamism and Nazism as the two sides of the same coin" that leaves no doubt in my mind that the man is preaching bigotry.

 

[Unbeliever]

Don't get me wrong. I don't agree with the EDL or the speaker in this video. I am just somewhat annoyed that racism is thrown around so easily when it comes to criticizing Islam (and only Islam no other Religion seems to enjoy such special "protection"). Maybe in this case it actually is bigotry towards Muslims, since the examples he names (KFC/Halal) are harmless and have little to do with Islamism.

However Islamism (not Islam the Religion as a whole but the fundamentalist approach of political Islam that includes Sharia law and the goal of Islamic domination etc.) actually has a lot in common with fascism/Nazism. Just look at Hamas or some of the writings of the Muslim Brotherhood or non-violent extremists in Europe. The fascist language and goals are all there, including discrimination of women, Jews, gays etc.

So to basically want to absolve Islamism from these extreme political leanings is wrong and either naive or willfully deceitful in my opinion.

That doesn't mean the EDL aren't scumbags (I honestly know to little about them to jugde either way, only seen 2-3 videos and read a few articles.)

Just don't get tempted to brand criticism of Islam/Islamism (different but connected, both have things to criticize about them though) as racist just because it is mostly practiced by foreigners (from the European perspective).