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ENDGAME?
Trump’s Afghan Exit Plans Are Mired in the India-Pakistan Mess
Pakistan holds a strong hand in the Afghan war game—especially as Trump looks for ways to walk away from the table. But Trump and Imran Khan are not the only ones with a stake.

190828-syed-trump-afghanistan-hero_hr1yny

Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty
KARACHI, Pakistan—Two separate attacks last month on the Pakistan armed forces that killed 10 personnel in North Waziristan and Balochistan, areas bordering Afghanistan, were actually attacks on the Afghan peace process. They came hardly a week after Prime Minister Imran Khan, in a meeting at the White House, assured U.S. President Donald Trump of his country's all-out efforts to advance Afghan peace.

The timing is significant and suggests just how complex the Afghan situation is as Trump’s negotiators try to lay the groundwork for American withdrawal from the longest war in U.S. history. Washington has long believed that the solution to the Afghan problem, if there is one, lies with Pakistan, but the government here in Pakistan is sometimes cast as a hero, working toward a resolution, and sometimes as a villain supporting the Taliban.



In any case, there is no question that Islamabad holds a strong hand in the Afghan war game, especially as Trump looks for ways to walk away from the table—and he appears to have made a significant tilt toward Pakistan following his July 22 meeting with Prime Minister Khan.

In the process, however, Washington is pushing India to the sidelines, and already we see regional repercussions, not least in always volatile Kashmir, where recent moves by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have led to an enormous increase in tensions between nuclear armed India and Pakistan.

In fact, this region defies simple stereotyping. Washington’s other strategic interests have brought it closer to India, Pakistan's arch rival, and in Afghanistan the U.S. actually has been fighting on two fronts, or more: an open war with Islamic extremists, and a more subtle rivalry with China.

Concerned with Beijing’s rising power and influence, Washington sees New Delhi as a counterweight, while India smartly exploits the U.S. “China obsession” to safeguard its own strategic interests.

The U.S. has for many years encouraged and facilitated India’s efforts to increase its stake in Afghanistan, and this has not been without sinister implications. While New Delhi frequently denounces what it claims is Pakistani support for terrorist movements, mostly linked to the conflict over divided Kashmir, Islamabad’s intelligence services maintain that India supports terrorists attacking Pakistan, and cite the attacks last month as typical examples.

From the Pakistani perspective, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) or Pakistani Taliban and Baloch separatists are India's strategic assets in Afghanistan now, with serious implications for this country’s security. These allegedly India-sponsored terrorists attack the security forces, national infrastructure, foreigners and various people on ethnic lines to fuel unrest in the country.

“India for some time has always used Afghanistan as a second front, and India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border.”
Former Sen. Chuck Hagel in 2011

Although this aspect of the Afghan conflict—or Af-Pak conflict, as they say in Washington—gets scant international attention, it is not exactly a secret.

In one well-known incident, former Sen. Chuck Hagel, while serving as chair of the President's Intelligence Oversight Board, told an audience at Oklahoma's Cameron University in 2011 that he essentially agreed with Pakistan’s accusations against India. “India for some time has always used Afghanistan as a second front, and India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border,” Hagel said. The remarks subsequently raised a storm of controversy during Hagel’s 2013 confirmation hearings as secretary of defense.

"We appreciate very much the significant role that India is playing in Afghanistan," Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Robert Blake told a Congressional hearing at the time. "In fact, we see India as kind of the economic linchpin for the future."

Over the past 18 years, India increased significantly its presence in and around Afghanistan to open the possibility of a second front on Pakistan’s frontier. In Tajikistan, which shares a 1357-km (843-mile) border with Afghanistan, India has established its first military base ever outside its territory. The installation at Farkhor is operated by the Indian Air Force in collaboration with Tajik Air Force, and since 2002 it has been used to transport military supplies to the Afghan Northern Alliance.
America’s Key to Keeping ISIS Defeated
Pakistan's northwestern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, including the tribal area, and its southwestern Balochistan province, which share long borders with Afghanistan, have been particular targets of terrorists allegedly funded by India.

As a result of military operation carried out by Pakistan armed forces in the tribal area along Afghanistan border, the TTP network was dismantled and hundreds of terrorists were killed while others refuge in Afghanistan.

The TTP has been a killing machine. It is responsible for hundreds of suicide attacks on Pakistani civilians and armed forces across the country. Mullah Fazlullah, the leader of the Pakistani Taliban, fled to Afghanistan in 2009 and is still orchestrating attacks on Pakistan from there.

“How do we tackle Pakistan? You make it difficult for them to manage their internal security.”
— Anjit Doval, former Indian national security advisor

Who has provided him a safe haven on Afghan soil? Who is using Fazlullah against Pakistan? Islamabad’s suspicions are heightened by remarks such as those made in 2013, by Ajit Doval, who would become national security adviser to Narendra Modi in Modi’s first term.

Doval, speaking at Sastra University in Tamil Nadu, reportedly addressed the question, "How do we tackle Pakistan?” His response: “You make it difficult for them to manage their internal security.” Doval suggested that “Pakistan's vulnerability is many many times higher than India's.” He noted that the Pakistani Taliban had beheaded 23 Pakistani soldiers, and their services could essentially be bought. “The [Pakistani] Taliban are mercenaries,” said Doval. “Go for more of a covert thing."

There are other several speeches of Doval which clearly indicate India’s involvement in a proxy war against Pakistan.

In March 2016, an alleged Indian spy and serving officer with the Indian navy named Kulbhushan Jadhav was reported captured with fake identity documents in Balochistan. The officer, who allegedly worked for India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was tried in a military court that sentenced him to death for espionage and subversive activities.

Indian authorities claimed he had retired from the navy to run a small business in the Iranian port of Chabahar, near the Pakistani border, and was kidnapped from there.

A videotaped confession was released in 2016 by Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR), Pakistan's military media wing. As with most such confessions, it presumably was made under duress, combining bits of confession with information or disinformation the interrogators wanted to make public, but the details are interesting nonetheless.

Jadhav said that he fomented terrorism, particularly in Balochistan:

"My name is Commander Kulbhushan Jadav and I am the serving officer of Indian Navy. I am from the cadre of engineering department of Indian Navy and my cover name was Hussein Mubarik Patel, which I had taken for doing some intelligence gathering for Indian agencies...”

He said he was signed up by RAW in 2013 and “ever since I have been directing various activities in Balochistan and Karachi at the behest of RAW” to undermine law and order in Karachi. “I was basically the man for Mr. Ani Kumar Gupta who is the joint secretary of RAW, and his contacts in Pakistan, especially in Balochistan Student Organization.” Jadav said his assignment was “to hold meetings with Baloch insurgents and carry out activities with their collaboration.”

Jadav said finances were fed into the Baloch movement through various channels to fund terrorist activities, particularly in Gwadar and other ports along the Balochistan coast.

The International Criminal Court called on Pakistan not to carry out the death penalty and to further review the case in light of the Vienna Convention, but its ruling announced on July 17 this year did not overturn the verdict.

One might ask how Pakistan let India become a major stakeholder in Afghanistan under pressure from the United States.

The problems in Balochistan, an internal affair of Pakistan, should have been resolved politically by the authorities. It is actually the military handling of a political issue that created the mess. Baloch nationalists have long resented the control of central authorities in Islamabad over the province's natural resources, lack of provincial autonomy, unitary type of governance and the arbitrary nature of the decision-making process in Islamabad. This fueled the feeling of deprivation, alienation and frustration among young Baloch. {let's not make the same mistake with PTM}

Instead of addressing the genuine grievances of the province, the authorities undertook five military operations at different times over the last seven decades. There is a need to marginalize separatists from nationalists who have been struggling for political and economic rights as enshrined in the country's constitution. The military operations deepened the sense of alienation in the province.

India was able to take advantage of the simmering situation in Balochistan, and, from the Pakistani perspective, is a real trouble-maker. It continuously tries to create a war-like situation on Pakistan’s eastern Kashmir border with an aim to engage the country’s military, diverting its attention at a critical time when it is engaged full time on its western border with Afghanistan.



This is exactly what India has done changing the legal status of Kashmir after it was shut out of the Afghan Peace process.

Pakistan is likely to set two pre-conditions for the U.S. if Washington truly wants it to play its key role to advance Afghan peace process.

Firstly, Islamabad may seek assurances from the U.S. that Afghanistan soil will not be used to harbor anti-Pakistan actors. Secondly, India will deescalate tensions on the eastern Kashmir border.


Realistically speaking, India is unable to play any role in Afghanistan in the absence of U.S. forces. It shares no border with Afghanistan, exercises no political influence there and has no cultural or religious affinity with the Afghan people. Over the past 15 years, to the extent New Delhi achieved its objectives it did so with the help of the U.S., but what good has that done for the United States?

Withdrawal of U.S. troops would end the security cover the India enjoys to increase its presence in the war-torn country.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-afghan-exit-plans-are-mired-in-the-india-pakistan-mess
 
Indian strategists know it too well: losing Afganistan is tantamount to losing to Pak!!! Hence, these scorched earth last ditch efforts via Kashmir fiasco!!! However, these won't work for the tide has turned...
 
Taliban want to start talks with the Indians. A good development on the whole

Taliban hints at possible dialogue with India
Kallol Bhattacherjee
NEW DELHI, August 28, 2019 17:16 IST
Updated: August 28, 2019 17:20 IST
There has been an increased interest inside the Taliban about a possible dialogue with India, according to a source privy to the Taliban. The Taliban would consider, if India wished to talk, the source maintained.

Reports of this tentative and cautious approach comes even as spokesperson of the Taliban political office Suhail Shaheen declared in a social media post that their political team would discuss the last points of the agreement with the United States team led by Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad.

Neither India nor Taliban have held any direct talks over the last two decades. The source said the Taliban had adopted dialogue as a policy for the future of Afghanistan. “Like other countries, India too can be a dialogue partner.”

A major issue between the two sides was the hijacking of Indian Airlines aircraft IC814 in 1999 by militants of Harkat-ul-Mujahideen that led to a protracted negotiation with the militant group mediated by Taliban in the Kandahar airport.

The source claimed that the circumstances at that time were imposed on it. “Taking aircraft is against our stated policy. We were pushed into the middle of this incident and tried to resolve the situation as peacefully as possible. Back then, the Indian government had expressed its appreciation to the Taliban for the release of the aircraft and the hostages,” said the senior source over phone, urging strict anonymity.

The source said that India’s appreciation was conveyed to a senior member of the Afghan negotiating team at the Kandahar airport.

At that time, the Taliban rule was led by Mullah Omar, who was known as the Ameer ul Momineen. The negotiation with the Taliban for freeing the aircraft was led by then External Affairs Minister Jaswant Singh, who recorded his impression of the outfit’s role in his autobiography A Call to Honour. He had expressed “some [sincere] gratitude” for the role they played in the negotiation as they had “goaded” the hijackers to negotiate upto a point.

The hijacking of IC814 in December 1999 was an event that influenced India’s attitude to the Taliban in the years since then. The flight was forced to land in Kandahar after stopovers in Pakistan and the Gulf and was flown back to Delhi on December 31 in exchange for militants freed by India from its custody.

During the United Progressive Alliance rule, some reports suggested covert meetings between the Taliban and India but they were never officially confirmed. The Government of India had appointed a special envoy to look after India’s interests in Afghanistan during the tenure of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi has not appointed a special envoy for Afghanistan so far.

Apart from the U.S., China, Russia and Iran held talks with the outfit as the United Nations sanctions on members of the political group were lifted earlier this year, making it easier for the 14-member Taliban political team to travel. The team includes veterans like Sher Abbas Stanikzai and head negotiator Abdul Ghani Baradar.

Earlier this year, Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif hinted that Tehran could help India initiate a dialogue with the outfit. However, such an initiative is yet to take off.

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Indian strategists know it too well: losing Afganistan is tantamount to losing to Pak!!! Hence, these scorched earth last ditch efforts via Kashmir fiasco!!! However, these won't work for the tide has turned...

Keep taking the anti-psychotic meds
 
Indian strategists know it too well: losing Afganistan is tantamount to losing to Pak!!! Hence, these scorched earth last ditch efforts via Kashmir fiasco!!! However, these won't work for the tide has turned...

Pakistan shall also push by blocking air transit to Indian and Afghan airlines.
 
The Taliban aren't known for being very fond of idol worshippers.

Perhaps it'll be an underwater meeting?

Let me assure you of one thing . A lesson which has been taught to Pakistan a thousand times but fails to learn, each and every time.
When you teach and allow people to kill indiscriminately , men women children mosques bazaars for nearly 40 years you have bred 2 generations who know nothing except killing and more killing. When the Taliban come to power as they eventually will then they will turn their eyes on the neighbour that ALL Afghans hate. I don't mean dislike, I mean HATE.
Thats Pakistan, which according to the Taliban is in possession of Afghan territory south of the Durand. Even when in power they did not recognise the Durand as the border. All that territory to them is STOLEN from Afghanistan.
The West of Pakistan is going to be a permanent 40-100 year war for the Taliban, because you have made sure they know no other way.
They may indeed cross Pakistan after its conquest and arrive at India's door, but it will be over the corpse of Pakistan
When you breed snakes and sustain them for generations and offer them a country, expect them to bring you their unique and singular idea of gifts.
Welcome to the future where the things you thought you controlled are actually the ones controlling you.
 
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Let me assure you of one thing . A lesson which has been taught to Pakistan a thousand times but fails to learn, each and every time.
When you teach and allow people to kill indiscriminately , men women children mosques bazaars for nearly 40 years you have bred 2 generations who know nothing except killing and more killing. When the Taliban come to power as they eventually will then they will turn their eyes on the neighbour that ALL Afghans hate. I don't mean dislike, I mean HATE.
Thats Pakistan which according to the Taliban is in possession of Afghan territory south of the Durand. Even when in power they did not recognise the Durand as the border. All that territory to them is STOLEN from Afghanistan.
The West of Pakistan is going to be a permanent 40-100 year war for the Taliban, because you have made sure they know no other way.
They may indeed cross Pakistan after its conquest and arrive at India's door, but it will be over the corpse of Pakistan
When you breed snakes and sustain them for generations and offer them a country, expect them to bring you their idea of gifts.
Welcome to the future where the things you thought you controlled are actually the ones controlling you.

You need to read different propaganda outlets, perhaps ones that don't all repeat the same lines between each sentence.

Pakistan and Afghanistan have always had open borders. Make no mistake, do not underestimate the will of that nation.
 
Let me assure you of one thing . A lesson which has been taught to Pakistan a thousand times but fails to learn, each and every time.
When you teach and allow people to kill indiscriminately , men women children mosques bazaars for nearly 40 years you have bred 2 generations who know nothing except killing and more killing. When the Taliban come to power as they eventually will then they will turn their eyes on the neighbour that ALL Afghans hate. I don't mean dislike, I mean HATE.
Thats Pakistan, which according to the Taliban is in possession of Afghan territory south of the Durand. Even when in power they did not recognise the Durand as the border. All that territory to them is STOLEN from Afghanistan.
The West of Pakistan is going to be a permanent 40-100 year war for the Taliban, because you have made sure they know no other way.
They may indeed cross Pakistan after its conquest and arrive at India's door, but it will be over the corpse of Pakistan
When you breed snakes and sustain them for generations and offer them a country, expect them to bring you their unique and singular idea of gifts.
Welcome to the future where the things you thought you controlled are actually the ones controlling you.



We raise wild dogs and we decide where to let them loose. Sometime wild dogs will bite the owner but their usefulness will never diminish.
If we have these Talibans supporters in our folds they can very easily be turned loose on your country. Last time I remember mere 10 soldiers did more damage to India than any previous attacks. That’s 10 only. There is a generation looking for a place to fight. What better place than to send them to Kashmir and rest of India.
So far we have decided not to. But when we do and they come to liberate oppressed Muslims India will be no more.
So better to behave and start talking. After all we do carry a big stick.

ENDGAME?
Trump’s Afghan Exit Plans Are Mired in the India-Pakistan Mess
Pakistan holds a strong hand in the Afghan war game—especially as Trump looks for ways to walk away from the table. But Trump and Imran Khan are not the only ones with a stake.

190828-syed-trump-afghanistan-hero_hr1yny

Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty
KARACHI, Pakistan—Two separate attacks last month on the Pakistan armed forces that killed 10 personnel in North Waziristan and Balochistan, areas bordering Afghanistan, were actually attacks on the Afghan peace process. They came hardly a week after Prime Minister Imran Khan, in a meeting at the White House, assured U.S. President Donald Trump of his country's all-out efforts to advance Afghan peace.

The timing is significant and suggests just how complex the Afghan situation is as Trump’s negotiators try to lay the groundwork for American withdrawal from the longest war in U.S. history. Washington has long believed that the solution to the Afghan problem, if there is one, lies with Pakistan, but the government here in Pakistan is sometimes cast as a hero, working toward a resolution, and sometimes as a villain supporting the Taliban.



In any case, there is no question that Islamabad holds a strong hand in the Afghan war game, especially as Trump looks for ways to walk away from the table—and he appears to have made a significant tilt toward Pakistan following his July 22 meeting with Prime Minister Khan.

In the process, however, Washington is pushing India to the sidelines, and already we see regional repercussions, not least in always volatile Kashmir, where recent moves by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have led to an enormous increase in tensions between nuclear armed India and Pakistan.

In fact, this region defies simple stereotyping. Washington’s other strategic interests have brought it closer to India, Pakistan's arch rival, and in Afghanistan the U.S. actually has been fighting on two fronts, or more: an open war with Islamic extremists, and a more subtle rivalry with China.

Concerned with Beijing’s rising power and influence, Washington sees New Delhi as a counterweight, while India smartly exploits the U.S. “China obsession” to safeguard its own strategic interests.

The U.S. has for many years encouraged and facilitated India’s efforts to increase its stake in Afghanistan, and this has not been without sinister implications. While New Delhi frequently denounces what it claims is Pakistani support for terrorist movements, mostly linked to the conflict over divided Kashmir, Islamabad’s intelligence services maintain that India supports terrorists attacking Pakistan, and cite the attacks last month as typical examples.

From the Pakistani perspective, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) or Pakistani Taliban and Baloch separatists are India's strategic assets in Afghanistan now, with serious implications for this country’s security. These allegedly India-sponsored terrorists attack the security forces, national infrastructure, foreigners and various people on ethnic lines to fuel unrest in the country.

“India for some time has always used Afghanistan as a second front, and India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border.”
Former Sen. Chuck Hagel in 2011

Although this aspect of the Afghan conflict—or Af-Pak conflict, as they say in Washington—gets scant international attention, it is not exactly a secret.

In one well-known incident, former Sen. Chuck Hagel, while serving as chair of the President's Intelligence Oversight Board, told an audience at Oklahoma's Cameron University in 2011 that he essentially agreed with Pakistan’s accusations against India. “India for some time has always used Afghanistan as a second front, and India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan on that side of the border,” Hagel said. The remarks subsequently raised a storm of controversy during Hagel’s 2013 confirmation hearings as secretary of defense.

"We appreciate very much the significant role that India is playing in Afghanistan," Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Robert Blake told a Congressional hearing at the time. "In fact, we see India as kind of the economic linchpin for the future."

Over the past 18 years, India increased significantly its presence in and around Afghanistan to open the possibility of a second front on Pakistan’s frontier. In Tajikistan, which shares a 1357-km (843-mile) border with Afghanistan, India has established its first military base ever outside its territory. The installation at Farkhor is operated by the Indian Air Force in collaboration with Tajik Air Force, and since 2002 it has been used to transport military supplies to the Afghan Northern Alliance.
America’s Key to Keeping ISIS Defeated
Pakistan's northwestern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, including the tribal area, and its southwestern Balochistan province, which share long borders with Afghanistan, have been particular targets of terrorists allegedly funded by India.

As a result of military operation carried out by Pakistan armed forces in the tribal area along Afghanistan border, the TTP network was dismantled and hundreds of terrorists were killed while others refuge in Afghanistan.

The TTP has been a killing machine. It is responsible for hundreds of suicide attacks on Pakistani civilians and armed forces across the country. Mullah Fazlullah, the leader of the Pakistani Taliban, fled to Afghanistan in 2009 and is still orchestrating attacks on Pakistan from there.

“How do we tackle Pakistan? You make it difficult for them to manage their internal security.”
— Anjit Doval, former Indian national security advisor

Who has provided him a safe haven on Afghan soil? Who is using Fazlullah against Pakistan? Islamabad’s suspicions are heightened by remarks such as those made in 2013, by Ajit Doval, who would become national security adviser to Narendra Modi in Modi’s first term.

Doval, speaking at Sastra University in Tamil Nadu, reportedly addressed the question, "How do we tackle Pakistan?” His response: “You make it difficult for them to manage their internal security.” Doval suggested that “Pakistan's vulnerability is many many times higher than India's.” He noted that the Pakistani Taliban had beheaded 23 Pakistani soldiers, and their services could essentially be bought. “The [Pakistani] Taliban are mercenaries,” said Doval. “Go for more of a covert thing."

There are other several speeches of Doval which clearly indicate India’s involvement in a proxy war against Pakistan.

In March 2016, an alleged Indian spy and serving officer with the Indian navy named Kulbhushan Jadhav was reported captured with fake identity documents in Balochistan. The officer, who allegedly worked for India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was tried in a military court that sentenced him to death for espionage and subversive activities.

Indian authorities claimed he had retired from the navy to run a small business in the Iranian port of Chabahar, near the Pakistani border, and was kidnapped from there.

A videotaped confession was released in 2016 by Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR), Pakistan's military media wing. As with most such confessions, it presumably was made under duress, combining bits of confession with information or disinformation the interrogators wanted to make public, but the details are interesting nonetheless.

Jadhav said that he fomented terrorism, particularly in Balochistan:

"My name is Commander Kulbhushan Jadav and I am the serving officer of Indian Navy. I am from the cadre of engineering department of Indian Navy and my cover name was Hussein Mubarik Patel, which I had taken for doing some intelligence gathering for Indian agencies...”

He said he was signed up by RAW in 2013 and “ever since I have been directing various activities in Balochistan and Karachi at the behest of RAW” to undermine law and order in Karachi. “I was basically the man for Mr. Ani Kumar Gupta who is the joint secretary of RAW, and his contacts in Pakistan, especially in Balochistan Student Organization.” Jadav said his assignment was “to hold meetings with Baloch insurgents and carry out activities with their collaboration.”

Jadav said finances were fed into the Baloch movement through various channels to fund terrorist activities, particularly in Gwadar and other ports along the Balochistan coast.

The International Criminal Court called on Pakistan not to carry out the death penalty and to further review the case in light of the Vienna Convention, but its ruling announced on July 17 this year did not overturn the verdict.

One might ask how Pakistan let India become a major stakeholder in Afghanistan under pressure from the United States.

The problems in Balochistan, an internal affair of Pakistan, should have been resolved politically by the authorities. It is actually the military handling of a political issue that created the mess. Baloch nationalists have long resented the control of central authorities in Islamabad over the province's natural resources, lack of provincial autonomy, unitary type of governance and the arbitrary nature of the decision-making process in Islamabad. This fueled the feeling of deprivation, alienation and frustration among young Baloch. {let's not make the same mistake with PTM}

Instead of addressing the genuine grievances of the province, the authorities undertook five military operations at different times over the last seven decades. There is a need to marginalize separatists from nationalists who have been struggling for political and economic rights as enshrined in the country's constitution. The military operations deepened the sense of alienation in the province.

India was able to take advantage of the simmering situation in Balochistan, and, from the Pakistani perspective, is a real trouble-maker. It continuously tries to create a war-like situation on Pakistan’s eastern Kashmir border with an aim to engage the country’s military, diverting its attention at a critical time when it is engaged full time on its western border with Afghanistan.



This is exactly what India has done changing the legal status of Kashmir after it was shut out of the Afghan Peace process.

Pakistan is likely to set two pre-conditions for the U.S. if Washington truly wants it to play its key role to advance Afghan peace process.

Firstly, Islamabad may seek assurances from the U.S. that Afghanistan soil will not be used to harbor anti-Pakistan actors. Secondly, India will deescalate tensions on the eastern Kashmir border.


Realistically speaking, India is unable to play any role in Afghanistan in the absence of U.S. forces. It shares no border with Afghanistan, exercises no political influence there and has no cultural or religious affinity with the Afghan people. Over the past 15 years, to the extent New Delhi achieved its objectives it did so with the help of the U.S., but what good has that done for the United States?

Withdrawal of U.S. troops would end the security cover the India enjoys to increase its presence in the war-torn country.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-afghan-exit-plans-are-mired-in-the-india-pakistan-mess



WTF Mullah Fazallulah launching attacks??? He long died in a drone strike. So much for the credibility of this article.
 
Let me assure you of one thing . A lesson which has been taught to Pakistan a thousand times but fails to learn, each and every time.
When you teach and allow people to kill indiscriminately , men women children mosques bazaars for nearly 40 years you have bred 2 generations who know nothing except killing and more killing. When the Taliban come to power as they eventually will then they will turn their eyes on the neighbour that ALL Afghans hate. I don't mean dislike, I mean HATE.
Thats Pakistan, which according to the Taliban is in possession of Afghan territory south of the Durand. Even when in power they did not recognise the Durand as the border. All that territory to them is STOLEN from Afghanistan.
The West of Pakistan is going to be a permanent 40-100 year war for the Taliban, because you have made sure they know no other way.
They may indeed cross Pakistan after its conquest and arrive at India's door, but it will be over the corpse of Pakistan
When you breed snakes and sustain them for generations and offer them a country, expect them to bring you their unique and singular idea of gifts.
Welcome to the future where the things you thought you controlled are actually the ones controlling you.

It is obvious you have no idea of history. It was never Pakistan that beought war to Afghanistan. It is exactly the other way around that we brought priece.

Russian invasion of Afghanistan was not our plan. Infact we just supported the local people against russian regime.

Taliban were nit exitent entity before 90s however Mullah Omer was an honest and respected man in Afghanistan and afyer US and Russia left Afghanistan in civil war, it was Pakistan who helped Taliban in bringing piece in unity among all the tribes to foem a unified government which includes all except for nirthern alliance (current regim have actual control of just 5% Afghanistan).

Even in the current situation it was Pakistan who actually forced USA to come on negotiation table with Taliban and convinced Washington that there is no military solution ...

Afghani society is tribal and most of the tribal supports taliban and talibans are the union of major tribes. Pakistan always had the good relationship with Taliban as they represent actual people of Afghanistan. On the other hand norther alliance sumbs like Karzai. Abdullah abdullah and others has no infkuence in Afghanistan and among people of Afghanistan ...people consider them as traitors
 
The Taliban aren't known for being very fond of idol worshippers.

Perhaps it'll be an underwater meeting?
Not idol worships Cow urine drinkers as well Gao mutra Brown Nazis have own theior planet.

You need to read different propaganda outlets, perhaps ones that don't all repeat the same lines between each sentence.

Pakistan and Afghanistan have always had open borders. Make no mistake, do not underestimate the will of that nation.
I told you these fellas fed 24/7 fake news live in theior own world. It was open border now getting fence.

Taliban want to start talks with the Indians. A good development on the whole

Taliban hints at possible dialogue with India
Kallol Bhattacherjee
NEW DELHI, August 28, 2019 17:16 IST
Updated: August 28, 2019 17:20 IST
There has been an increased interest inside the Taliban about a possible dialogue with India, according to a source privy to the Taliban. The Taliban would consider, if India wished to talk, the source maintained.

Reports of this tentative and cautious approach comes even as spokesperson of the Taliban political office Suhail Shaheen declared in a social media post that their political team would discuss the last points of the agreement with the United States team led by Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad.

Neither India nor Taliban have held any direct talks over the last two decades. The source said the Taliban had adopted dialogue as a policy for the future of Afghanistan. “Like other countries, India too can be a dialogue partner.”

A major issue between the two sides was the hijacking of Indian Airlines aircraft IC814 in 1999 by militants of Harkat-ul-Mujahideen that led to a protracted negotiation with the militant group mediated by Taliban in the Kandahar airport.

The source claimed that the circumstances at that time were imposed on it. “Taking aircraft is against our stated policy. We were pushed into the middle of this incident and tried to resolve the situation as peacefully as possible. Back then, the Indian government had expressed its appreciation to the Taliban for the release of the aircraft and the hostages,” said the senior source over phone, urging strict anonymity.

The source said that India’s appreciation was conveyed to a senior member of the Afghan negotiating team at the Kandahar airport.

At that time, the Taliban rule was led by Mullah Omar, who was known as the Ameer ul Momineen. The negotiation with the Taliban for freeing the aircraft was led by then External Affairs Minister Jaswant Singh, who recorded his impression of the outfit’s role in his autobiography A Call to Honour. He had expressed “some [sincere] gratitude” for the role they played in the negotiation as they had “goaded” the hijackers to negotiate upto a point.

The hijacking of IC814 in December 1999 was an event that influenced India’s attitude to the Taliban in the years since then. The flight was forced to land in Kandahar after stopovers in Pakistan and the Gulf and was flown back to Delhi on December 31 in exchange for militants freed by India from its custody.

During the United Progressive Alliance rule, some reports suggested covert meetings between the Taliban and India but they were never officially confirmed. The Government of India had appointed a special envoy to look after India’s interests in Afghanistan during the tenure of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi has not appointed a special envoy for Afghanistan so far.

Apart from the U.S., China, Russia and Iran held talks with the outfit as the United Nations sanctions on members of the political group were lifted earlier this year, making it easier for the 14-member Taliban political team to travel. The team includes veterans like Sher Abbas Stanikzai and head negotiator Abdul Ghani Baradar.

Earlier this year, Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif hinted that Tehran could help India initiate a dialogue with the outfit. However, such an initiative is yet to take off.

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Keep taking the anti-psychotic meds
Shushane Haider editor of the Hindu daughter of Subramaniam sawami once, the hindu, was best paper of India not long ago now running propaganda 24/7.Most amazing thing or dichotomy in sawami jee and his daughter is sawmi jee is Harvard PhD and wage jihad against Pak and Muslim spew hate and anger while his daughter sushane waje love jihad against Muslims her husband is Muslims strange family.
 
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