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Egypt court dismisses charges against Mubarak

So you're aware that all the appeal processes for those convicted under the SCAF were all filed and accepted under Morsi's tenure?

Tell me just one thing. What is your so-called INDEPENDANT judiciary doing against Sisi for unlawfully removing a democratically elected president?

Aren't they supposed to take legal action against him?
 
"No to military rule, no to Brotherhood rule, no to the Folool, the Revolution will continue."

The more Egypt goes under the more delusional you look, but I take umbrage at part of your above statement why no to brotherhood rule

It is this attitude that has fucked Egypt into its pathetic state

The MB is a valid political party with a big political support

But rather then support the democratic system, people like you and that prick el bareide would rather bring down democracy and help the military and deep state regain power and crush dissent because you can't accept the Mb winning democratic elections
 
Tell me just one thing. What is your so-called INDEPENDANT judiciary doing against Sisi for unlawfully removing a democratically elected president?

Aren't they supposed to take legal action against him?

Their job is to interpret the law and apply it in cases. Egyptian common law does not have any contingencies for prosecuting those who conduct (argued) coups or revolutions. If there was then the SCAF which in reality booted Mubarak in much the same way Elsisi did would have been on trial.

It was up to the newly democratically elected legislative bodies to reform the laws of the land and provide adequate checks and balances in a constitution in order to avoid such a situation, they failed miserably in both cases.

The more Egypt goes under the more delusional you look, but I take umbrage at part of your above statement why no to brotherhood rule
It is this attitude that has fucked Egypt into its pathetic state

The MB is a valid political party with a big political support

But rather then support the democratic system, people like you and that prick el bareide would rather bring down democracy and help the military and deep state regain power and crush dissent because you can't accept the Mb winning democratic elections[
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You still don't understand and you probably never will.

Democracy is much more than an election. The goals of the 25th of Jan revolution (which the MB joined late after refusing to pledge their allegiance toppling the regime in a cross party meeting with Kifaya) were and remain incredibly simple, bread (meaning life), freedom, and, social justice. It was agreed upon that the means by which this would be achieved is the foundation of a liberal democratic system in Egypt, a system in which representatives are chosen for office who then have a duty to provide the aforementioned without infringing upon civil liberties and without acting beyond their mandate or breaking the separation of powers.

The Muslim Brotherhood as the National Democratic Party and the current regime are committed to democratic elections, however, they are not committed to anything else. In reality, all they really mean (these parties) by democratic is that we are legitimate no matter what we do and you have no choice but to see out our term. In that sense the Muslim Brotherhood and the new regime are different sides of the same coin, both had or have an interest in silencing dissent, both are willing to act beyond their mandates, both are willing (and have) to breach the separation of powers and their constitutional powers if they deem it necessary.

This isn't really about ideology, in reality the the MB and current regime have not differed massively on religious issues as proved by the constitutions put up for referendum, both have the same exact clauses on the role of religion in the state and society and both are pretty much take verbatim from the pre 2011 constitution.

The MB are simply two faced, they were in cahoots with the SCAF when they felt they were going to gain power, and they supported the SCAF in the Maspero and Mohammed Mahmoud events (which they now try to commemorate unsuccessfully) but when the tables are turned and there's a de facto military ruler as there was then they are chanting the complete opposite and openly supporting rebellion and terrorism.

You still don't understand and you probably never will.

Democracy is much more than an election. The goals of the 25th of Jan revolution (which the MB joined late after refusing to pledge their allegiance toppling the regime in a cross party meeting with Kifaya) were and remain incredibly simple, bread (meaning life), freedom, and, social justice. It was agreed upon that the means by which this would be achieved is the foundation of a liberal democratic system in Egypt, a system in which representatives are chosen for office who then have a duty to provide the aforementioned without infringing upon the civil liberties and without acting beyond their mandate or breaking the separation of powers.

The Muslim Brotherhood as the National Democratic Party and the current regime are committed to democratic elections, however, they are not committed to anything else. In reality, all they really mean (these parties) by democratic is that we are legitimate no matter what we do and you have no choice but to see out our term. In that sense the Muslim Brotherhood and the new regime are different sides of the same coin, both had or have an interest in silencing dissent, both are willing to act beyond their mandates, both are willing (and have) to breach the separation of powers and their constitutional powers if they deem it necessary.

This isn't really about ideology, in reality the the MB and current regime have not differed massively on religious issues as proved by the constitutions put up for referendum, both have the same exact clauses on the role of religion in the state and society and both are pretty much take verbatim from the pre 2011 constitution.

The MB are simply two faced, they were in cahoots with the SCAF when they felt they were going to gain power, and they supported the SCAF in the Maspero and Mohammed Mahmoud events (which they now try to commemorate unsuccessfully) but when the tables are turned and there's a de facto military ruler as there was then they are chanting the complete opposite and openly supporting rebellion and terrorism.
 
"No to military rule, no to Brotherhood rule, no to the Folool, the Revolution will continue."

The more Egypt goes under the more delusional you look, but I take umbrage at part of your above statement why no to brotherhood rule

It is this attitude that has fucked Egypt into its pathetic state

The MB is a valid political party with a big political support

But rather then support the democratic system, people like you and that prick el bareide would rather bring down democracy and help the military and deep state regain power and crush dissent because you can't accept the Mb winning democratic elections
it is all about MB to you you can spare yourself all this talk about democracy if they came to power by force you would be saying democracy is a failed system
do you think that by supporting a political party which is the MB you are a good muslim
 
it is all about MB to you you can spare yourself all this talk about democracy if they came to power by force you would be saying democracy is a failed system
do you think that by supporting a political party which is the MB you are a good muslim

It has NOTHING to do with islam. I would be saying the same thing if they werent an islam based party. In fact i hate politicians who use the religion card to get in to power. Using religion in politics should be banned! But truth remains the truth, they were elected, and people voted for them.
You may not like that, but as part of a democratic govt you have to accept it. If everyone threw a tantrum everytime someone they didnt like comes into power then whats the point in having a democracy?
 
It has NOTHING to do with islam. I would be saying the same thing if they werent an islam based party. In fact i hate politicians who use the religion card to get in to power. Using religion in politics should be banned! But truth remains the truth, they were elected, and people voted for them.
You may not like that, but as part of a democratic govt you have to accept it. If everyone threw a tantrum everytime someone they didnt like comes into power then whats the point in having a democracy?
with respect it is easy to say what should the people and army do in Egypt it is so hard to be in Egypt and say that things are not as simple as you make it sound like.
4 years of rioting and lack of security and with live examples as how things can go bad to syria and libya may they find peace soon has really made every one think what are our options and what went wrong and be very careful in our moves
 
with respect it is easy to say what should the people and army do in Egypt it is so hard to be in Egypt and say that things are not as simple as you make it sound like.

Your post makes sense to me. If egyptians are scared for their lives and are being oppressed then there is not much a common man can do anywhere. I was under the impression that people welcomed Sisi's actions.
 
Your post makes sense to me. If egyptians are scared for their lives and are being oppressed then there is not much a common man can do anywhere. I was under the impression that people welcomed Sisi's actions.
sisi has support of the majority of people including me i was talking as someone who took part in 25 jan
 
Does this really surprise anyone? Egypt is a junta state. The current junta won't charge the former one...its common courtesy :-) . Sisi is now committing the same crimes Mubarak did...suppressing human rights,suppressing media, undermining democracy, indefinite detentions, killings, torture etc etc. There is no difference between Sisi and Mubarak.
 
nasser,sadat,mubarak,sisi ........military junta is going on
year 2222 new president is general abdul al sisi congrats new president:sarcastic:
 
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sisi has support of the majority of people including me i was talking as someone who took part in 25 jan

Mubarak also had support of this kind of 'majority', even just before his fall his mafia gang had 99% seats in the so-called Egyptian parliament. His MPs were like you, 'honest' through and through. Now, please stop your sisilian farts, you're making the atmosphere too stinky. Your sisilian farts smell worse than the stink bombs, produce these in front of your sisilian boss, we're sure he's going to swallow them like hot cakes!
 
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Egypt prosecutor appeals Mubarak verdict

Staff Writer, Al Arabiya News
Tuesday, 2 December 2014


Egypt’s public prosecutor on Tuesday appealed a court ruling that dropped charges against former president Hosni Mubarak, his interior minister and six aides over the killing of protesters in a 2011 uprising.

“A study of the reasons for the ruling revealed legal flaws that tinged the judgment,” public prosecutor Hesham Barakat said in a statement.

The appeals court must now decide whether to accept the appeal and order a retrial or to reject it, thereby upholding the decision to drop the criminal charges against Mubarak.

Mubarak, now 86, was sentenced to life in prison in 2012 for conspiring to murder 239 demonstrators during an 18-day revolt that ended his 30-year rule, but an appeals court ordered a retrial.

On Saturday, the court dropped its case against Mubarak, igniting protests in Cairo in which two people were killed.
Seven of Mubarak's security commanders, including feared ex-interior minister Habib al-Adly, were acquitted over the Jan. 25, 2011 deaths.

His lawyer has said Mubarak could now see an early release from the military hospital where he is being held, as he has already served two-thirds of his sentence when time held in preliminary detention since his arrest in 2011 is taken into account.

After Saturday's verdict, more than 1,000 protesters gathered at an entrance to Cairo's Tahrir Square -- the epicenter of the 2011 revolt -- chanting slogans against the country's authorities.

Resulting clashes left two people dead and several wounded.

[With agencies]

Last Update: Tuesday, 2 December 2014 KSA 18:01 - GMT 15:01

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Just a quick direct quote from Elsisi himself on Mubarak for everyone without a clue on what he is like and what is actually happening in Egypt.

During a meeting with influential youth in media the President of the Arab Republic of Egypt said:_

" Don't you think that anyone who is fair and loves this nation [Egypt] is (or was) satisfied with Mubarak and his regime"

This came after the Presidency officially stated it had plans to criminalise the slander of the 25th of January and 30th of June revolutions.

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