- May 7, 2012
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Disagree "mon amie". Do not mix a liberal tradition and rule of law that has taken 1,000 years to evolve embedded within English Common Law with appeasment.brits are appeasing
Freedom can be b*tch. It often means having to put up with what you hate so that you can do what you want. When you begin legislating it, it often can come and bite your own posterior.allowing all kind of veils
Very valid point. 10/10. However I believe this was done over the last two decades as a consequence of foreign policy determinants. For example it is now coming out that police wanted to arrest Anjem Chaudry but did not because inteligence service overruled them. Also lot of these hate preachers ran away from Syria and other Arab countries that UK was opposed to. Therefore it was kind of my "enemies enemy is a friend". The fallacy of this has begun to be now realized. That is why Omar Bakri was deported. The problem was back in 1980s Islamists were viewed as assets by British (as well as others) establishment.allowing hate preachers
Poppycock. This is another of those far right mantra but does not bear any real life scrutiny. The chance of coloured or Muslim and that includes the Indian's unless they use plenty of white wash being pulled over by Police is far, far greater than a white person. This is fact. On the other hand we are expected to believe that those same cops will not arrest a Muslim who is buggering a minor because they are "too scared". Give me a break. Of course the same cops don't show any hesitation or political corectness when they pull over coloured drivers. This utterly blows the stupid argument propunded by the far right. More of this in some other thread.not revealing mass crimes for fear of being called as racists
Now let me deal with .......
Well let us look at some facts first.
*There are far more Muslims in France then UK. Some observers place them at 10% whereas in UK it is probably 4%.
*The French Muslims are more homogenous as most are Arabs from Algeria, Marocco, Tunisia etc
* Being Arabs and Muslims provides two skates to the Middle Eastern furnace. That is the problems in Middle East, like Israel, Western intervention in say Libyia, Syria, Iraq or before Lebanon. Events in Gaza reverbrate with the French Muslims at twice the frequency. They are Arabs ( like Palestinians ) they are Muslims ( like Palestinians) and this doubly amplifies the impact. Whereas most Muslims in UK have little to almost nothing to relate to the Middle East. Why not look at your grandmother and see how much of her dress code, culture and habits had anything to do with Middle East.
In conclusiuon. The French Muslims are the very same people who are in the vortex of the events in Middle East. Therefore what happens in Tripili, Tartus, Latakia, Gaza is going to have profound, close, and up personal effect in some arrondissements in Paris. Algeria and other sources of Frances Muslims are so close to France as to have a Irish/British reflex about it.
And finally Britain left her colonies whence the migrants Muslims came from ( which are far more distant) in relative peace whereas when the Fench left Algeria it was after years of bloody war. Some of that historical angst must still run in the minds of the French Muslims.Therefore comparison of the Muslims of France and UK is like apples and oranges. Entirely diffeant dynamic. Considering the extreme challanges of history and regional geopolitics I think the French have done a good job.
I hope that helps ...