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'Don't listen to fake news': Chinese ambassador pressed over detention camps in Xinjiang

Where are Iraqi's WMD? how about those 139"Chinese" died in British truck?

 
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Why not allow journalists access to these re-education centres?

Why do you restrict information from Xinjiang if US is putting fake news?
 
Then what is this?


He's a travel vlogger from Arab country, can't say he's on CIA payroll.


Why can't she even talk to strangers on street?
Really, how about hitting on a girl on the street. Is that kind of talking?



Xinjiang night food market, does it seem to you that they don't talk to strangers?

 
Really, how about hitting on a girl on the street. Is that kind of talking?



Xinjiang night food market, does it seem to you that they don't talk to strangers?


Seriously?

None of the videos have remotely anything to do with Muslims and mosques. They're also locals.

You get on the CCP radar when you snoop around the mosques, appear Islamic to them and try to find out what is happening to Uighurs as is the case with that Arab vlogger and the vice journalist.

Even Uighurs don't have any issues if they forsake Islam and live like atheists, which your videos show.

In a city of majority millions of Muslims, the mosques are abandoned and there isn't women with Hijab and people freak out if you talk about fasting?

And US is the one doing propaganda lol
 
Silly you...why would you ever think they are hiding something??
Then what is this?


He's a travel vlogger from Arab country, can't say he's on CIA payroll.


Why can't she even talk to strangers on street?

https://journeybeyondhorizon.com/xinjiang-travel-regulations-foreigners/

TRAVEL REGULATIONS FOR FOREIGNERS IN XINJIANG
SEPTEMBER 21, 2019

Skip down to "NO INDEPENDENT FOREIGNERS IN THE TOURIST SITES"

NO INDEPENDENT FOREIGNERS IN THE TOURIST SITES
Yes, there was another problem in this area. We arrived in Bayan Buluk and wanted to visit the Bayan Buluk Grassland and Swan Lake. The people at the entrance told us that we have to go to the travel center and buy tickets from there. So we found this travel center, in the other part of Bayan Buluk town, and I entered inside for tickets.

But a policeman there told me that this area is not opened for foreigners. The only way to visit Bayan Buluk Grassland is to go to the travel center in Urumqi and obtain a travel permit there. Not only that, but he said that we must leave the town within 30 mins, otherwise he has to call the other policemen and to ask me a lot of questions. He apologized that it was not him who created these regulations, but we all haven’t a choice and have to obey.

So, we went outside of Bayan Buluk town, just a km outside. There we found a nice grassland with horses, sheep, and cows, and enjoyed the stunning landscape for almost 2 hours. No checkpoints around, nobody came to check me, we were completely free.

NO HOTELS FOR INDEPENDENT FOREIGNERS
Before we traveled on Du Ku Highway, we were looking for a hotel in Bayan Buluk. There wasn’t any hotel there which could accept foreigners. We felt strange about it, and when we met the policeman, we understood why. Anyway, since the road was temporarily damaged by a small landslide, we spent the night in the car, waiting for the dawn to proceed.

So, to conclude- foreigners CAN travel on Du Ku Highway, Tekes and Wusun Ancient Trail (if not closed for other reasons), but CAN’T sleep in hotels there, CAN’T visit Swan Lake of Bayan Buluk Grassland (and maybe can’t visit other travel sites with entrance ticket too) independently, and are required just to move quickly. But since there is only one checking point, and normally no policemen check people randomly, foreigners can sleep in cars, in tents, even in some local yurts without problem (although technically it is not allowed).

OTHER TRAVEL LIMITS IN THE „NORMAL” PART OF XINJIANG

We faced such limits when we drove a car from Kashgar to Maigaiti N39 area of Taklamakan Desert. Basically, this area is free. There are 2-3 checking points, but they are just normal. Initially, our goal was not Maigaiti, but Karsu- another place at the edge of Taklamakan Desert near Kargilik (Yecheng).

But when we arrived at the last checking point before Karsu, the policemen politely explained that just that day there was a „special activity” in Kargilik, so foreigners are not allowed to proceed further. If I really want to visit Karsu, I was welcomed to come again several days later. But now I had to leave, and they advised us to visit Maigaiti N39, which was free to travel.

So we visited Maigaiti N39 instead. The road passes through a nice and beautifully decorated town, and we wanted to take some photos of the houses. Then, at that moment, a policewoman called us and warned us to NOT make any photos in the area, but only in the desert. There was another small checking point and the local Uyghur policemen didn’t register me, but also told us to not take photos.

FORBIDDEN AREAS IN XINJIANG

There are such areas too. You will not see them marked on any map, but they exist. Usually, these are military areas or secret areas of other kinds. Initially, we planned to visit an ancient village at the edge of Taklamakan Desert, called Luoburen (or Luobu Man), not far from Korla. But when I mentioned it to the Chinese girls of our Kashgar hostel’s personnel, they told me to forget to go there. It is completely forbidden for foreigners. They said that they indeed were there, but only by a travel company, and were not allowed to take any photos.

As I know, there are other forbidden areas in Xinjiang, mainly in the border areas, or near Lop Nur area. And since it is difficult to find any information which are these places and where you can reach to their entrance and be stopped by the local police. They will not arrest you, but just politely will tell you that it is closed and you have to back. That’s not a serious problem, unless you may lose precious time and waste money to reach the place.
 
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Xinjiang, what a wonderful land!

Dr Imtiaz Haider

SEPTEMBER 4, 2019

Over the years, to build Xinjiang into a beautiful and rich homeland for people in the western region, the Chinese government had adopted the most preferential policies.


“Xinjiang, what a wonderful land!” is the name of a famous song that my Uyghur classmates often sang when I was studying in Beijing.


I had been deeply attracted by the beautiful melody with strong characteristics of Islamic nations and longing for the mystery and beauty of Xinjiang.

However, during my five-year study in China, I had never had an appropriate opportunity to take a glance at real Sinkiang. At the same time, the Xinjiang we learned from the media had always been related to words like “violence” and “terror.”

This made me confused and firmed my thoughts to go and know the real Xinjiang myself.

Last March, I was lucky to get to the place I had been longing for. China and Pakistan are neighbours linked by Karakoram Highway built with the aid of China in the last century. Thus, in the hearts of the peoples, the Karakoram Highway has become the friendship highway between Pakistan and China. I am also called, ” Batie” by many Chinese friends here.

When I was in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang, I found the infrastructures to be beyond my imagination. The beauty and prosperity of Urumqi attracted tourists from all over the world. There were all elements of an international metropolis.

Having the head of a Chinese company as my guide, who intended to cooperate with me, I paid visits to a few major attractions downtown. “Grand Bazaar,” which I had heard about before, was a must-see trade zone with national characteristics.

There were a wide variety of goods, especially all kinds of snacks and daily necessities with Uyghur ethnic characteristics, which were very similar to Pakistan goods. These goods with ethnic characteristics also attracted people of all nationalities in China and tourists of different skin colours from all over the world. A Uighur friend pointed to rows of beautifully carved copper bottles in a shop and told me, “Our copper bottle is very similar to your Pakistani craftsmanship. Many people can’t tell whether it is made by our Xinjiang craftsmen or produced in Pakistan.”

I was particularly excited that the art and culture of my hometown could also take root in another country. At noon, my friends and I squeezed into a Uighur small restaurant in Urumqi. The restaurant owner treated us with a variety of Xinjiang specialities. When he heard I was from Pakistan, he gave me a thumbs-up happily and enthusiastically called me “Batie.”

When I was in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang, I found the infrastructures to be beyond my imagination. The beauty and prosperity of Urumqi attracted tourists from all over the world. There were all elements of an international metropolis

The customers in the restaurant were also infected by the harmonious atmosphere and talked with the owner. I asked the restaurant owner about the living situation. He told me that his economic situation was getting better and better, and the business of his restaurant was very hot. Even his son, who was an ignoramus troublemaker in the past, had also learned techniques and skills at the teaching and training centre, and come back home. His son had become a master of cooking and the backbone of their family. The owner pointed to the Xinjiang speciality pasta on the table and said proudly: “This is his craft. How do you taste it?”

I remembered that when I had been studying in Beijing, I had heard there were much violence and terrorism in Xinjiang. Yet, seeing the scene of various ethnic groups living in harmony, I couldn’t believe this was the reality.

Our Uighur companion told me proudly: “There hasn’t been any terrorism in 30 months. The autonomous regional government has helped us to build vocational and technical training schools for the Uighur people. If you are lacking of knowledge and life skills, you can study in the school. This is also our government’s long-term construction project in Xinjiang.”

I have seen some Western media report on training institutions that teach people living and production skills as violations of human rights. This is totally different from what I saw and heard in Xinjiang. There is an old saying in China that words are but wind, but seeing is believing.

Everything I witnessed with my own eyes, especially the local Uyghur people’s comments on the teaching and training centres, was the most convincing truth. Chinese friends told me that over the years, in order to build Xinjiang into a beautiful and rich homeland for people in the western region, the Chinese government had adopted the most preferential policies for Xinjiang. They had actively carried out vocational skills training, which had gained obvious effects. To unite and stabilise Xinjiang in a long-term construction process had become an important job of governance according to law.

In particular, they had provided working places for the Muslim and helped them acquire skills, thus, significantly increasing the Muslim family’s income. This had provided with a new path for all ethnic groups to live in harmony.

While spending just a few days in Xinjiang, I was particularly touched by the warm reception of my friends from Xinjiang.

Xinjiang is very nice, and the people of Xinjiang are much nicer. On the day I returned to Pakistan, I suddenly recalled the song “Xinjiang, what a wonderful land,” when I was reluctantly bidding farewell to my friends. I had personally experienced the beauty and richness of Xinjiang and fallen in love with this ancient land, which is full of modern vigour simultaneously. If I ever have a chance, I will go there again to enjoy the exotic scenery and visit my enthusiastic Uighur friends.
https://dailytimes.com.pk/459402/xinjiang-what-a-wonderful-land/
 
Hijabs are not part of the Uighur culture, why do you need them to wear them ?
Get your priorities right! This thread is about Uighurs who practices Islam NOT about Uighur culture.

Hijab is an Islamic thing. Muslim women from every race and culture ware this.

And who are you to decide what is Uighur culture and what is not? Let Uighurs decide themselves.
 
Get your priorities right! This thread is about Uighurs who practices Islam NOT about Uighur culture.

Hijab is an Islamic thing. Muslim women from every race and culture ware this.

And who are you to decide what is Uighur culture and what is not? Let Uighurs decide themselves.
You get your facts straight, Hijabs were never part of Uighur culture, it came to Xinjiang mid last century from the middle east, don't think all Muslims are the same, most Hui Muslims just dress as Han Chinese in China.
 
Hijabs are not part of the Uighur culture, why do you need them to wear them ?

Don't twist. Like i said above that in the majority Muslim million population in Xinjiang, why are mosques abandoned, no women wearing hijab and everyone afraid if you talk about fasts?

I can find Hijabi women in any western country where Muslims are a minority. Heck, there's even a Hijabi woman in superhero movies now. Surely, among the million Uighurs, there can be at least one or two Hijab wearing women? And a few hundred that pray at mosques?

And Hijab isn't a cultural thing, it's an Islamic thing. Just like nuns in Christianity cover themselves up exactly like Muslim women.
 

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