I refuse to believe that Jinnah was so incompetent as to not have seen the inherent contradiction in this interpretation.
How can you be Islamic and secular at the same time?
Quaid wasn't secular.
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I refuse to believe that Jinnah was so incompetent as to not have seen the inherent contradiction in this interpretation.
How can you be Islamic and secular at the same time?
You get mixed signals if you read the different speeches of our Quaid. Its all depend on our interpretation of his speeches. secular peoples read his speeches and claim that he wanted Pakistani as secular state while religious peoples quote his some speech and claim that he wanted Pakistan to be based on Islamic principles with freedom, security and equal right for peoples of different faiths
I refuse to believe that Jinnah was so incompetent as to not have seen the inherent contradiction in this interpretation.
How can you be Islamic and secular at the same time?
o bhi Muslim you are and Pakistani
Please first clear your mind about ISLAM QUAID and Pakistan then comment

The debate is not whether Jinnah was secular or not. There are some who say he was and some who say he wasn't. One interprets him according to one's intentions.
The debate is if Pakistan should be secular or not.
can you tell me Pakistan is secular or Islamic state right now? How you define "Secularism"?
Now you are contradicting yourself , Jinnah was a leader who lead a campaign to our independence , you said yourself that one can't be Islamic and Secular at the same time - i couldn't agree more !.
You don't understand the point, do you?
We are not discussing whether Pakistan is Secular or not, we both know that it is not.
We are discussing whether Pakistan SHOULD BE secular or not.
@HBS Guy: Pakistan is Islamic or Secular is none of your business

Why is it your business anyway ? --- for the recored , we never made Pakistan to be secular and it never will be a secular country.
Present Pakistan is neither Islamic nor secular. What Pakistan need actually depend on the needs of majority of its peoples. If i assume that Pakistan need secularism then there was no need for Muslims to ask for separate land Pakistan on basis of two nation theory because they could have share common secular state with India.
I personally don't mind living in either truly Islamic or truly secular state. The only disadvantage for secular state is that you get your religion limited to your personal life. I guess secularism is best option for multicultural society where there is not domination of one particular belief
Peoples don't realize that Pakistan is already secular with few exceptions.. for examples interests in forbidden in Islam and Pakistan is taking loans from world bank on interets and Pakistani banking system also based on interests. Again sharia laws is not fully implemented in Pakistan





Pakistan is not a secular country at all.
Pakistan's constitution forbids a non-Muslim from becoming the PM/President and thereby leading the country, hence, relegating them to second-class-citizen status.
Its because 97 % population of Pakistan is Muslims....rule of majority(democracy)The constitution implies that a non-Muslim is unfit to lead a country dominated by Muslims. This is not secularism.

So you say that secular countries should not have blasphemy laws and peoples should have freedom to mock and insult the religion of each othersLaws such as those on blasphemy which are regularly misused against non-Muslims also corroborate the view that Pakistan is neither a secular state nor a secular society.
