Divide and Conquer? Chinese Navy Starts Playing Nice With U.S.

[Hiptullha]

We helped them to gain Independence. Is that intimidation ?


If u cannot accept truth what can anyone say.

Helped them gain independence not for their benefit.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

ROFL you shameless liar. You have REPEATEDLY attacked all the weaker states on your periphery and bowed to suck European *** even after China and Japan helped you expel the French. China has NEVER attacked a truly weak state in history that I know of, while it declared war on eight of the world's most powerful countries SIMULTANEOUSLY.

You didn't do jack **** to "save" Cambodia, you simply wanted to occupy them (along with Laos). No one knew at the time what the Khmer Rouge was doing and we still don't.

And you defended against Mongols to save SEA from invasion? ROFL. You "defended" against the Mongols to defend yourselves and immediately proceeded to annex a large part of Champa.

It's China that bravely defends weak nations and is a pacifist and soft to small countries. China has openly defied every single belligerent superpower in history from the Huns to the (true) Turks to the Mongols to the Spanish, British, Japanese, Soviets and America - NOT just to defend her own territory like you cold-blooded, amoral serpents but to protect her allies when she could have gotten off scot-free just by throwing you into the fire.

Good ****ing god you Vietnamese are delusional liars.

You're talking to @NiceGuy #2 , well said man , Just want to add one thing, yes we're so coward in Korea war when facing the entire UN army,.

 

[Genesis]

That is Chinese' nature and characteristic. They bow to the superior and bully the weak.

We Viet are different we are heroic fighting for justice and peace regardless of opponent's characteristic. We get rid of Khmer Rouge a little pawn of China to save million Khmers from genocide. We fought the Yuan Mongol to discourage them further expansion to SEA.

You do realize in Korean were, we were there right..... Yes, we did take it lying down for American insults like iran shipping, embassy bombing, spy planes, 1996 strait crises, WTO, and much more. But all those resulted in China being a world power today.

If we had done what Vietnam is doing now, we wouldn't be able to change anything, just like Vietnam can't change anything now. Real tangible power remains the one thing that makes the world go around.

Heroic isn't charging head first, any brainwashed moron can do that, which is why the army is made up of 17-22 year olds. IT takes a real men to bid his time and take humiliation for the greater ambitions.

If you truly feel China is weak and cowardly, then fine, you have nothing to worry about. Since the combined traits makes any who bears these harmless.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

As for the title of the thread Divide and Conquer? no China has better Idea ---> 取而代之

 

[ComradeNam]

ROFL you shameless liar. You have REPEATEDLY attacked all the weaker states on your periphery and bowed to suck European *** even after China and Japan helped you expel the French. China has NEVER attacked a truly weak state in history that I know of, while it declared war on eight of the world's most powerful countries SIMULTANEOUSLY.

You didn't do jack **** to "save" Cambodia, you simply wanted to occupy them (along with Laos). No one knew at the time what the Khmer Rouge was doing and we still don't.

And you defended against Mongols to save SEA from invasion? ROFL. You "defended" against the Mongols to defend yourselves and immediately proceeded to annex a large part of Champa.

It's China that bravely defends weak nations and is a pacifist and soft to small countries. China has openly defied every single belligerent superpower in history from the Huns to the (true) Turks to the Mongols to the Spanish, British, Japanese, Soviets and America - NOT just to defend her own territory like you cold-blooded, amoral serpents but to protect her allies when she could have gotten off scot-free just by throwing you into the fire.

Good ****ing god you Vietnamese are delusional liars.

It seems I scratch where Chinese irks. Provide some evidences for what you said.

China supplied Viet Minh to fight against the French for their nation interests - for example they supplied Viet Minh with trucks but they require Chinese's drivers - Read Le Duan on the break with China. Not to mention the Vietnamese did help the Chinese communist fought against KMT - Read China - Vietnam

The Mongol demanded the path to SEA but the Viet denied the demand therefore led to war. Read Tran Dynasty against Mongol.

The Viet intervention did save million Khmer from genocide, it was the Khmer Rouge with support of China raid the Viet border killed thousand of innocent Viet. Read the battle of South West Vietnam.

China bravely my butt, they took the opportunity when Vietnam busy consolidate its internal affair to took island under Vietnam control by force. The Chinese also invade Tibet by telling them lie to protect them . Read the Vietnam - China navy battle and Tibet China.


- Have you ever wonder why many countries do not like China, such as the West, Russian, Vietnam, Japan, even South America...etc. while Vietnam many foreigns like even the French who we had bloody battle with the Viet. It was the French support Vietnam stance in SCS agaisnt you China cunt.

 

[Jlaw]

You're talking to @NiceGuy #2 , well said man , Just want to add one thing, yes we're so coward in Korea war when facing the entire UN army,.

He's NiceGuy 2 wannabe. NiceGuy is actually kind of stupid and funny at the same time. This wannabe is just full of anger and hatred.

 

[xesy]

ROFL you shameless liar. You have REPEATEDLY attacked all the weaker states on your periphery and bowed to suck European *** even after China and Japan helped you expel the French. China has NEVER attacked a truly weak state in history that I know of, while it declared war on eight of the world's most powerful countries SIMULTANEOUSLY.

You didn't do jack **** to "save" Cambodia, you simply wanted to occupy them (along with Laos). No one knew at the time what the Khmer Rouge was doing and we still don't.

And you defended against Mongols to save SEA from invasion? ROFL. You "defended" against the Mongols to defend yourselves and immediately proceeded to annex a large part of Champa.

It's China that bravely defends weak nations and is a pacifist and soft to small countries. China has openly defied every single belligerent superpower in history from the Huns to the (true) Turks to the Mongols to the Spanish, British, Japanese, Soviets and America - NOT just to defend her own territory like you cold-blooded, amoral serpents but to protect her allies when she could have gotten off scot-free just by throwing you into the fire.

Good ****ing god you Vietnamese are delusional liars.

1st bold part: You need to read history books again. China would have never grown this big without conquering smaller neigbours. I am sure that every Chinese Emperors took expanding territories as the highest pride for his ruling period.
2nd bold part: Funny the last few days UN court has been putting former members of Khmer Rouge to trials for genocide and crime against humanity. We didn't care what they did to Cambodian, but they took a wrong move massacred VNese living in the border. Those skulls in museums are enough of proof for you?
3rd bold part: Mongols attacked VN in 15th century. We expanded to the south in 17th century. And Cambodia King agreed to give up the land (mostly swamp at that time) for VN helping him reclaim the throne from his rival supported by Thailand Empire.

That's simply what's historically wrong in your post. I have no comment on how you think China is. China is a lion, a big lion. It's not herbivorous, and it need to feed on preys. And there are plenty of weak/ smaller preys around it hunt.

 

[Pinoy]

Really? I wonder how our Filipino and Vietnamese friends will respond to this claim.

@Viet , @xesy , @Cossack25A1 , @Zero_wing , @Pinoy , @JayMandan , @Carlosa ,

For us, Chinese leaders cannot be trusted. They act like the peacemakers in front of cameras but behind they are barbaric, deceiving and traitors.

China is simply defending their territory from these unruly terrorist nations who are supported by a gangster called America.

Well China has only itself to blame for this predicament.

You pushed all your neighbors around the area, now you see the US reasserting itself into the region. And this time the US is overwhelmingly welcomed back.

Your the only one doing all the provoking, waddling about showing off how mighty you think you are, but the fact remains, your posturing is all because of your insatiable greed for more natural resources in areas you do not own.

 

[TheTruth]

1st bold part: You need to read history books again. China would have never grown this big without conquering smaller neigbours. I am sure that every Chinese Emperors took expanding territories as the highest pride for his ruling period.

No, they didn't. Ming Emperors expressly FORBID their heirs from attacking ANY country with an exhaustive list including Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Southern India, Bengal, Majapahit, Sulu, Brunei, Malacca and Maguin Sultans. They only sanctioned military action against the Mongols for obvious reasons.

The Qing expanded Chinese borders aggressively but even then just to exterminate ruthless enemies who refused to negotiate peace with China repeatedly.

The only reason why Ming invaded Vietnam is because the Trans were Ming allies and the successor dynasty attacked a Chinese diplomatic mission, and then raided Guangdong.

but they took a wrong move massacred VNese living in the border. Those skulls in museums are enough of proof for you?

Who knows how they died? American bombs probably killed them. And Cambodia only attacked Vietnam to liberate their brothers who you annexed.

You pushed all your neighbors around the area, now you see the US reasserting itself into the region. And this time the US is overwhelmingly welcomed back.

stfu. China has 14 land neighbors alone and only pig-arrogant India refuses to deal. China has offered no less than FOUR times to recognize the current borders. Arrogant India refuses to even consider that a dispute exists despite the fact that they have NO CLAIM whatsoever to Tibetan land.

Meanwhile not only does the Philippines have a dispute with Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam of all countries but you even have an active insurgency going on in the south due to your non-stop atrocities against native Moro Muslims - and you ransom and murder Chinese children when you aren't engaging in high seas piracy against Taiwan and even Vietnam. Who the **** do you think you're fooling, Pinoy?

Unlike you PINOYS the Chinese do not need to STEAL ISLANDS, RANSOM CHILDREN AND WOMEN, BUTCHER Muslim natives, SELL their daughters to foreigners and RAPE the poor to get rich.

Chinese people get rich by working hard and if we want oil, we BUY it.

 

[xesy]

No, they didn't. Ming Emperors expressly FORBID their heirs from attacking ANY country with an exhaustive list including Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Southern India, Bengal, Majapahit, Sulu, Brunei, Malacca and Maguin Sultans. They only sanctioned military action against the Mongols for obvious reasons.

The Qing expanded Chinese borders aggressively but even then just to exterminate ruthless enemies who refused to negotiate peace with China repeatedly.

The only reason why Ming invaded Vietnam is because the Trans were Ming allies and the successor dynasty attacked a Chinese diplomatic mission, and then raided Guangdong.



Who knows how they died? American bombs probably killed them. And Cambodia only attacked Vietnam to liberate their brothers who you annexed.

American bombs killed people by clubing them to dead? We have suvivors who are terrified when they have to remember those Cambodian attacks again. You probably don't know but Cambodian soldiers used clubs, hammers, farming tools to hit civilians in the head to dead because they didn't want to waste ammo. Many Cambodian new recruits didn't hit hard enough, and created a long and painful death to VNese and Cambodians. And I would not call it an attack, but rather harrassing the border and massacring the civilians.

Ming Dynasty was the most successful period in Chinese imperial history. Maybe that had something to do with the policy like you said. But what about dynasties before it?

 

[TheTruth]

@xesy

True and how many Cambodians died when Vietnam force-settled Khmer Krom? It's not just by accident that the Cambodians (and I mean the people, not the government) are warmer to China than Vietnam. Of course it's horrible that they died the way they did, but American bombs killed tens of thousands of people in Cambodia alone long after the war had ended - Vietnam of all countries should know that chemicals and explosives don't just go away on their own.

The Song was also largely peaceful, as were the Tang and Sui after they fought with Korea when Goguryeo and other Korean states raided the Chinese border. It was Yuan under the Mongols who conquered large parts of Yunnan that China previously left alone.

 

[Kyle Sun]

You're talking to @NiceGuy #2 , well said man , Just want to add one thing, yes we're so coward in Korea war when facing the entire UN army,.

You are funny man

 

[xesy]

@xesy

True and how many Cambodians died when Vietnam force-settled Khmer Krom? It's not just by accident that the Cambodians (and I mean the people, not the government) are warmer to China than Vietnam. Of course it's horrible that they died the way they did, but American bombs killed tens of thousands of people in Cambodia alone long after the war had ended - Vietnam of all countries should know that chemicals and explosives don't just go away on their own.

The Song was also largely peaceful, as were the Tang and Sui after they fought with Korea when Goguryeo and other Korean states raided the Chinese border. It was Yuan under the Mongols who conquered large parts of Yunnan that China previously left alone.

I admited that VN soldiers were not living saints when they stationed in Cambodia. As far as I know that period history is hardly mentioned in school or any text books, as well as the skirmishes with China till 1989. But I think people are hostile towards foreign army staying in their country. Like Japanese dislike American troops for example. I am sure even when US withdraws its troops, for the next 20-30 years there will still be Japanese who dislike American soldiers around.

 

[TheTruth]

@xesy I'd say often but not always - Germany has lots of American troops in their homeland and they get along fine, unlike the Americans who rape Japanese schoolchildren whenever they get the chance. People just don't like being abused by foreigners in their own home.

 

[xesy]

@xesy I'd say often but not always - Germany has lots of American troops in their homeland and they get along fine, unlike the Americans who rape Japanese schoolchildren whenever they get the chance. People just don't like being abused by foreigners in their own home.

Germany didn't bring this up, because Soviet had already played the bad guy. You need a good guy and a bad guy to balance things out, right? East Germany was thought to be hell on earth, while West Germany was heaven with saint soldiers walking around. That's why many German deserted from East to West Germany during its split. But did they find heaven on West Germany? No for sure. They were rounded up and put up to a long investigation (to find out Soviet spies among them). They were discriminated becaused they were "evil communists". Of course those things would never make it to any history books but use simple logic and the answer comes to you naturally.