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Did America's response to 9/11 backfire? : Fawaz Gerges

America did a favour to the world by not nuking Afghanistan. Any other country (that too a superpower) would have gone mad with rage watching a few young kids killing nearly 4000 innocent people in a few minutes.

Had it been any other more autocratic country like China or erstwhile USSR instead of the US, there would not be any Afghanistan on world map today.

America behaved very responsibly.

It is only because of America that today Afghans can dream of breathing in open air without a talib pointing a gun to their heads.

Afghan kids can dream of a better future today.

And to think of it, America has paid for all this with the lives of its soldiers. The soldiers of that very country whose people some Afghans killed.

Only a great country like America can do that.
 
^^^Please watch the entire video instead of commenting blindly.

It looks foolish when you comment without context.

And don't forget that USSR was in Afghanistan for eight years, it had to withdraw and broke up soon afterwards
 
^^^Please watch the entire video instead of commenting blindly.

It looks foolish when you comment without context.

And don't forget that USSR was in Afghanistan for eight years, it had to withdraw and broke up soon afterwards

I was just commenting prima facie on the title Ejaz. I stand by my point. US did Afghanistan a favour by not nuking it.
 
I was just commenting prima facie on the title Ejaz. I stand by my point. US did Afghanistan a favour by not nuking it.

Well then your stand does not have any credibility nd by saying that you made it by just looking at the title makes it even less valid.

The speaker is American of Lebanese Christian origin and an expert on terrorism writing about it for 20 years much before 9/11. I suggest you devote an hour to watch the video before making comments.

Fawaz A. Gerges (born in Lebanon) is a professor, author and a network news analyst, with expertise on the Middle East, U.S. foreign policy, international relations, Al Qaeda, and relations between the world of Islam and the West. He is currently a Professor of Middle East Politics and International Relations at the London School of Economics and Political Science. He also holds the Emirates Chair of the Contemporary Middle East at the LSE and is the inaugural Director of the LSE Middle East Centre.[1]

Gerges has appeared on television and radio networks throughout the world, including CNN, ABC, CBS, NPR, the BBC and Al Jazeera. During the weeks leading up to the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, he was a regular guest on The Oprah Winfrey Show, PBS’s The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer and The Charlie Rose Show.

In the last decade Gerges spent five years conducting field research in several Middle Eastern countries on several topics and subjects, including social movements (such as the Muslim Brotherhood, and jihadist groups like Al Qaeda), on Arab and Muslim politics in the 20th century, and relations between the West and the Muslim world.
 
Being American, I obviously appreciate Ignited Mind's sentiments.

What I'd like to know is what other people think should have been done in response to 9-11? Sanctions? A couple of cruise missiles into an aspirin factory? Protest to the U.N.?

What should the U.S. have done?
 
Chogy did you watch the video?

If you did, you would have known what America should have done instead of posting a redundant question.

The speaker is also an American by the way who lost his friends and relatives to terrorism and violence as well. Also check out his Bio that I posted above.

But I think even you would agree that Iraq was unnecessary and backfired.
 
What the US should've done in my view is at least first ascertained who did it. It would be historic irony that poor Afghans got bombed and somebody else goes smirking to bed every night ever since.
 
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There is hardly any doubt on "Who" did it.

OBL was not the "mastermind" but he did provide ideological support. He did give his "fatwa" legitimising attacking even US civilians in 1998 from Afghanistan.

The masterminds Khalid Sheikh Muhammed and Ramzi bin al-Shibh both were caught in Pakistan.
 
I am not sure where he's getting his poverty figures from. Egypt's poverty rate was 20% according to BBC. Don't remember Lebanon but it was nowhere near as high as what he's saying either. Same for most middle eastern countries. 40% average poverty rate in middle eastern countries? BS. But other points were good.
 
Being American, I obviously appreciate Ignited Mind's sentiments.

What I'd like to know is what other people think should have been done in response to 9-11? Sanctions? A couple of cruise missiles into an aspirin factory? Protest to the U.N.?

What should the U.S. have done?

After 9/11, Secretary of State Colin Powell promised Americans the State Department would issue a White Paper detailing bin Laden’s guilt. Afghanistan’s Taliban government asked for this document before it would extradite bin Laden, as the US was demanding. The White Paper was never produced, and the US ignored proper legal procedure and invaded Afghanistan.
 
^^^
There is hardly any doubt on "Who" did it.

OBL was not the "mastermind" but he did provide ideological support. He did give his "fatwa" legitimising attacking even US civilians in 1998 from Afghanistan.

The masterminds Khalid Sheikh Muhammed and Ramzi bin al-Shibh both were caught in Pakistan.

Really could you please do share that proofs with all of us as millions in west are looking for that proof or is it your biased against Pakistan talking.we all no how indians love to blame pakistan for every thing bad in the world.

Bin Laden denied he or al-Qaida was behind 9/11 and the death’s of nearly 3,000 people. The plot was hatched in Hamburg, Germany and Madrid, Spain, not in Afghanistan. A Pakistani, Khaled Sheik Mohammed, claimed he was the mastermind – after being tortured by near-drowning 183 times by the CIA.

While denying involvement, Osama bin Laden did say he believed the attack on New York was in part motivated by Israel’s destruction of downtown Beirut during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon that inflicted some 18,000 civilian deaths.

Tapes that appeared to confirm bin Laden’s guilt were clumsy fakes. They were supposedly “found” in Afghanistan by the anti-Taliban Afghan Northern Alliance, which was created and funded by Russian intelligence.


Ejaz if u were water boarded even 20 times you would have admitted of being Hitler to stop them for torturing you so please spare us all from your biased and if u have soild proof please feel free to share with us all.
 
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I don't want to turn this thread into "Who did 9/11?" thread. And Bin Laden most likely died in early 2000s. Vested interests have tried to keep his bogey alive by fake videos.
But its suffice to say that Khalid in 2002 in an Al Jazeera interview in Arabic claimed credit for the attacks, this was before he was captured and water boarded.

The point of the video is something larger that just that. But there is no reason to deny the existence of fringe deviant groups led by the types of OBL who justify killing of innocent people.
 
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@Cheetah

I don't want to turn this thread into "Who did 9/11?" thread. And Bin Laden most likely died in early 2000s. Vested interests have tried to keep his bogey alive by fake videos.
But its suffice to say that Khalid in 2002 in an Al Jazeera interview in Arabic claimed credit for the attacks, this was before he was captured and water boarded.

The point of the video is something larger that just that. But there is no reason to deny the existence of fringe deviant groups led by the types of OBL who justify killing of innocent people.

I am the last guy on this planet who wants to defend a Saudi (trained at Langley Virginia by CIA)

i no you do not wanna turn this into any thing other then the topic but at the same time you conveniently bring in Pakistan. funny how Pakistan intelligence agencies captured him and turned him over to the Americans (again conveniently left out details that do not work in propaganda against Pakistan) but lets move on Americans had to water board and torture the guy 100s of times to admit his guilt which according to you he openly admitted on international broad cast.
 
^^I had no intention to do "propaganda" against Pakistan

I just mentioned that they were caught in Pakistan, one happens to be a Pakistani origin and the other Arab. Both were caught by Pakistani agencies and handed over to the US.

And you can google the interview given to Yousri Fouda by both of these to Al Jazeera. This happened BEFORE he got captured and water boarded
 

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