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Dhaka to Ctg in one hour!

Detailed design of high-speed train service by April; experts term the project highly ambitious

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How long does it take to get from Dhaka to Chittagong by train? Around six hours, one would say. You could add an extra couple of hours, if a delay arises.

What if it could take a little over an hour?

Surprised? Well, that's what is likely to happen as the country is set to step into the bullet train era.

The journey from the capital to the commercial capital will be slashed to only 73 minutes once the high-speed trains begin passenger services. An uninterrupted journey between Dhaka and Chattogram will take only 55 minutes.

It will, however, set commuters back a pretty penny -- around Tk 2,000, more than three times higher than the fare of an AC seat on existing Bangladeshi inter-city trains.

The trains, which will run at a top speed of 300km/hr, can carry approximately 50,000 passengers each way daily.

The feasibility study of the first high-speed train, commissioned by Bangladesh Railway, has already been completed. The route has also been selected and work for the detailed design of the “passenger dedicated” railway project, involving around Tk 97,000 crore, is underway.

However, it is still not decided what will be the source of the fund.

The new high-speed railway route will be around 90km shorter than the existing route.

However, two prominent transport experts termed the project “highly ambitious” and questioned the capacity of Bangladesh Railway to operate the high-speed train, when it has not yet introduced the electric train.

HIGH-SPEED TRAIN

Work for the detailed design of the project is expected to be completed in April next year, said project director Md Quamrul Ahsan.

“We will then prepare a DPP [Development Project Proposal] for the project. Works for managing funds will go on simultaneously,” he told The Daily Star on December 24. He hoped to place the project before the Executive Committee of National Economic Council (Ecnec) by 2020.

The consultants proposed a fare of Tk 10 per kilometre per person in their reports. On that basis, train fare from Dhaka to Chattogram is likely to be around Tk 2,000, said Quamrul.

“However, this will be further analysed and is not final.”

Ticket fare for a Shovon chair from Dhaka to Chattogram is Tk 345 while an AC chair is Tk 656. Flights from Dhaka to Chattogram range between Tk 2,500 to 3,000.

In total, there are six stations on the proposed route -- Dhaka, Narayanganj, Cumilla, Feni, Pahartali and Chattogram, said Quamrul.

At the beginning, the railway is planning to operate around 40 pairs of trains, he said, adding that the number of trains will increase with passenger demand.

In March 2017, the planning minister approved the “Feasibility Study and Detail Design for Construction of Dhaka-Chattogram via Cumilla/Laksham High-Speed Railway Project.”

The consortium of China Railway Design Corporation of China and Mazumder Enterprise of Bangladesh conducted the feasibility study and are currently preparing the detailed design at a cost of Tk 110.16 crore.

Among four options, the 227.3km Dhaka-Narayanganj-Cumilla-Feni-Chattogram route was recommended and Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina approved it along with the technical standards of the railway.

The total estimated cost of the project from Dhaka to Chattogram would be about $11.4 billion, which would be Tk 96,752 crore ($1=Tk 84.87).

Of the 668.24 hectares of land required for the project, Bangladesh Railway has to acquire 464.2 hectares.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, in March this year, directed the authorities concerned to extend the route down to Cox’s Bazar.

If the route is extended to Cox’s Bazar, it will be the single largest government project ever in terms of project cost, beating Rooppur Nuclear Power Plant’s Tk 1,13, 092 crores, according to Bangladesh Railway officials.

The high-speed railway will be double-track and mostly elevated. It would be a ballast-less track and for the first time in Bangladesh Railway, it will be operated through electric traction.

“We are now preparing a DPP to carry out a feasibility study for the extended route,” said Quamrul Ahsan.

Currently, Bangladesh Railway operates 360 passenger trains through its 3,000km network across the country, divided into eastern and western zones.

Although the number of passengers keeps increasing, the railways continues to incur huge financial losses every year.

‘HIGHLY AMBITIOUS’ PROJECT

Transport expert Prof Hasib Mohammed Ahsan said the government may have a plan to introduce bullet trains considering economic growth, but its move should be consistent with the capacity of Bangladesh Railway.

“Where we don’t yet have the capacity to operate a train at 100km/hr, we are going to operate a 300km/hr train. It is a huge jump, but our approach needs to be gradual,” Prof Hasib, also a former director of the Accident Research Institute (ARI) at Buet, told The Daily Star on December 25.

The authorities should first opt for electric trains instead of high-speed trains, he said, adding, “If we can’t improve our overall performance, it [the new project] will create management and operational problems.”

Another transport expert, Prof Shamsul Hoque, said construction of a chord line from Dhaka to Laksham in Cumilla would also reduce the Dhaka-Chattogram route length by around 99km from the existing 320km.

A project in this regard has been in discussion for decades but has not been green-lit yet. Instead of introducing high-speed trains, the government should build the chord line first.

“I have doubts about the viability of a high-speed train within this ‘short distance’. Besides, I don’t think the railway has the capacity for such a project,” the former ARI director told this newspaper on December 25.

The high-speed train will also face challenges once the Dhaka-Chattogram expressway, now at the planning stage, is operational, as people will choose “door to door” connectivity buses rather than station-based fixed schedule trains, he added.

“I think this is a premature and ‘highly ambitious’ project and the authorities should reconsider before proceeding with it,” he said.

Asked why they are planning to introduce the high-speed train instead of the more “cost-effective” electric train after the construction of a chord line from Dhaka to Laksham, Quamrul Ahsan said there are around 350 level crossings on the proposed high-speed railway route between Dhaka to Chattogram.

Access control or grade separation (where trains and road vehicles run on separate levels) are essential to increase train speeds in a densely populated country like Bangladesh, he said.

Train speeds of more than 100km/hr at the same grade with roads and without access control may have severe consequences in regard to accidents, he said.

Quamrul said the proposed high-speed railway will be operated by electric traction and is mostly elevated so access control is ensured. It will require less land acquisition and has less impact on agriculture, drainage, and the environment, he added.

Contacted, Railways Ministry Secretary Mofazzel Hossain said that although several countries have expressed interest in funding the project, the ministry has not yet received a formal proposal.

Asked about the reservations of experts over the project, he told The Daily Star on December 28, “The government has already taken on projects to build the metro rail, a nuclear power plant, and an underwater tunnel. So, this project can in no way be labelled a high ambitious one.”

Bangladesh has set a goal to establish itself as a middle-income country by 2021 and a developed and prosperous country by 2041, he continued, adding, “Considering our economic growth and people’s demands, we are going ahead with this project.”

According to OMIO, an internationally popular travel website, the world’s fastest bullet train is operated in China at the highest speed of 350kph.

In Japan and France, the highest speed of the bullet train is 320kph while its 310kh in Spain and 300kph in Germany.
 
I wish the BDs the best but don’t pop the champagne too quickly. Exporting garments is all about the lowest cost of production and it changes very quickly.
 
Please note below that similar news was also published in July 2018. But, nothing has been done so far. In my personal opinion, BD neither needs such Bullet trains nor it can afford them. The project will not pay back if the cost is Tk.97,000 Crore and even 50,000 passengers use the trains daily each paying 2,000 Taka for a single trip.

For 50,000 daily passengers paying 2,000 Taka each the gross ticket sale is 10 Crore Taka daily or 3,650 Taka a year. Even if the trains run with ZERO Taka worth of fuel and ZERO expenditures for the staff and maintenance, the investment of Tk70,000 Crore can be recovered in about 20 long years.

Now, if we consider a net profit of 10% or 365 Crore Taka a year it will take 200 years to recover the investment. This is on the assumption of 50,000 passengers every day. However, the number of passengers at present is below 20,000 only. I do not understand how suddenly there will be an influx of passengers by 2.5 times and that is when the ticket price is more than 3 times.

So, how it is feasible? I think it is just another BAL govt ploy to divert people's attention from the reality of life in BD. BAL wats people to remain mesmerized with its falsified economic data and untrue and impossible projects.

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http://www.newagebd.net/article/450...-speed-trains-to-ferry-50000-passengers-daily

Dhaka-Chittagong high-speed trains to ferry 50,000 passengers daily
United News of Bangladesh . Dhaka | Published: 01:17, Jul 02,2018

Over 50,000 passengers will be able to commute between the national capital and port city Chittagong daily in just two-hour time once high speed trains are introduced on Dhaka-Chittagong route.

In an exclusive interview, railways minister Mujibul Haque said recently that once the high speed trains are pressed into the service, expectedly by 2025, passengers on this route will be able to avail trains once every half an hour from 6:00am till 10:00pm.

The high speed trains will carry passengers from Dhaka to Chittagong and vice versa in just 1.5 to 2 hours’ time costing Tk 1500 per passenger, said the minister. Citing it as an important project for the country, the railways minister added that the trains will be similar to those operated in Europe, China, Japan and Korea.

Eight pairs of high-speed trains will shuttle between Dhaka and Chittagong, each containing ten coaches and two engines in front and back of the trains. Each train can accommodate 800 passengers, with as many as 32 trips daily from Dhaka to Chittagong and vice versa.
Currently, eight pairs of trains commute on Dhaka-Chittagong route, accommodating 15,000-20,000 passengers daily. These trains generally take over five to six hours to cover the distance.

Now, railways minister said, the distance between Dhaka and Chittagong by rail is 321 km, but it would come down to 230 km after the construction of a new rail route, while the travel time will be something between 1.5 hours to 2 hours, with the high speed train moving as fast as 200 km per hour.

According to sources at Bangladesh Railway, the entire project will cost Tk 50,000 crore, which the Bangladesh government plans on completing with the help of a foreign donor.
They also said that an entirely separate rail line will be constructed in the Dhaka-Comilla, Laksam-Chittagong route, which will be built over Feni and will conclude at a newly-built rail station just beside the existing station in Chittagong.

In a recent research report Japan International Cooperation Agency said that the new high-speed trains would generate demands for 60,000 passengers on Dhaka-Comilla, 40,000 on Comilla-Feni and 50,000 on Feni-Chittagong routes.

A contract to undertake feasibility study and detailed design regarding the project was signed between Bangladesh Railway and a Bangladeshi-Chinese consortium on May 31 between China Railway Design Corporation, China and Mazumder Enterprise, Bangladesh Consortium.

The railways minister said the Tk. 102 crore study will be completed within the next 18 months.
On completion of the feasibility study and detailed design plan, railway sources said that the government will approve the Development Project Proposal by 2020, and seek for donor to finance the project. Related tenders will be floated for contractors within this period.

Necessary land acquisition for the new rail line and station will also commence, which will run parallel to the other aspects and conclude by 2021. It will take three to four years to complete the entire project, with rail sources estimating the project to be completed by 2024-25.
 
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Please note below that similar news was also published in July 2018. But, nothing has been done so far. In my personal opinion, BD neither needs such Bullet trains nor it can afford them. The project will not pay back if the cost is Tk.97,000 Crore and even 50,000 passengers use the trains daily each paying 2,000 Taka for a single trip.

For 50,000 daily passengers paying 2,000 Taka each the gross ticket sale is 10 Crore Taka daily or 3,650 Taka a year. Even if the trains run with ZERO Taka worth of fuel and ZERO expenditures for the staff and maintenance, the investment of Tk70,000 Crore can be recovered in about 20 long years.

Now, if we consider a net profit of 10% or 365 Crore Taka a year it will take 200 years to recover the investment. This is on the assumption of 50,000 passengers every day. However, the number of passengers at present is below 20,000 only. I do not understand how suddenly there will be an influx of passengers by 2.5 times and that is when the ticket price is more than 3 times.

So, how it is feasible? I think it is just another BAL govt ploy to divert people's attention from the reality of life in BD. BAL wats people to remain mesmerized with its falsified economic data and untrue and impossible projects.

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http://www.newagebd.net/article/450...-speed-trains-to-ferry-50000-passengers-daily

Dhaka-Chittagong high-speed trains to ferry 50,000 passengers daily
United News of Bangladesh . Dhaka | Published: 01:17, Jul 02,2018

Over 50,000 passengers will be able to commute between the national capital and port city Chittagong daily in just two-hour time once high speed trains are introduced on Dhaka-Chittagong route.

In an exclusive interview, railways minister Mujibul Haque said recently that once the high speed trains are pressed into the service, expectedly by 2025, passengers on this route will be able to avail trains once every half an hour from 6:00am till 10:00pm.

The high speed trains will carry passengers from Dhaka to Chittagong and vice versa in just 1.5 to 2 hours’ time costing Tk 1500 per passenger, said the minister. Citing it as an important project for the country, the railways minister added that the trains will be similar to those operated in Europe, China, Japan and Korea.

Eight pairs of high-speed trains will shuttle between Dhaka and Chittagong, each containing ten coaches and two engines in front and back of the trains. Each train can accommodate 800 passengers, with as many as 32 trips daily from Dhaka to Chittagong and vice versa.
Currently, eight pairs of trains commute on Dhaka-Chittagong route, accommodating 15,000-20,000 passengers daily. These trains generally take over five to six hours to cover the distance.

Now, railways minister said, the distance between Dhaka and Chittagong by rail is 321 km, but it would come down to 230 km after the construction of a new rail route, while the travel time will be something between 1.5 hours to 2 hours, with the high speed train moving as fast as 200 km per hour.

According to sources at Bangladesh Railway, the entire project will cost Tk 50,000 crore, which the Bangladesh government plans on completing with the help of a foreign donor.
They also said that an entirely separate rail line will be constructed in the Dhaka-Comilla, Laksam-Chittagong route, which will be built over Feni and will conclude at a newly-built rail station just beside the existing station in Chittagong.

In a recent research report Japan International Cooperation Agency said that the new high-speed trains would generate demands for 60,000 passengers on Dhaka-Comilla, 40,000 on Comilla-Feni and 50,000 on Feni-Chittagong routes.

A contract to undertake feasibility study and detailed design regarding the project was signed between Bangladesh Railway and a Bangladeshi-Chinese consortium on May 31 between China Railway Design Corporation, China and Mazumder Enterprise, Bangladesh Consortium.

The railways minister said the Tk. 102 crore study will be completed within the next 18 months.
On completion of the feasibility study and detailed design plan, railway sources said that the government will approve the Development Project Proposal by 2020, and seek for donor to finance the project. Related tenders will be floated for contractors within this period.

Necessary land acquisition for the new rail line and station will also commence, which will run parallel to the other aspects and conclude by 2021. It will take three to four years to complete the entire project, with rail sources estimating the project to be completed by 2024-25.

Let the private sector undertake the project. Let them have tax breaks on import materials etc.... we will soon find out if it is feasible or not.
 
Please note below that similar news was also published in July 2018. But, nothing has been done so far. In my personal opinion, BD neither needs such Bullet trains nor it can afford them. The project will not pay back if the cost is Tk.97,000 Crore and even 50,000 passengers use the trains daily each paying 2,000 Taka for a single trip.

For 50,000 daily passengers paying 2,000 Taka each the gross ticket sale is 10 Crore Taka daily or 3,650 Taka a year. Even if the trains run with ZERO Taka worth of fuel and ZERO expenditures for the staff and maintenance, the investment of Tk70,000 Crore can be recovered in about 20 long years.

Now, if we consider a net profit of 10% or 365 Crore Taka a year it will take 200 years to recover the investment. This is on the assumption of 50,000 passengers every day. However, the number of passengers at present is below 20,000 only. I do not understand how suddenly there will be an influx of passengers by 2.5 times and that is when the ticket price is more than 3 times.

So, how it is feasible? I think it is just another BAL govt ploy to divert people's attention from the reality of life in BD. BAL wats people to remain mesmerized with its falsified economic data and untrue and impossible projects.

How did you come up with this numbers????
The profit is not calculated like that.
10% profit is what you get after paying the loan that you borrowed for the project. If the project pay back period is 25 years then the money will be paid with interest within this time along with what you bag as profit.
 
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How did you come up with this numbers????
The profit is not calculated like that.
10% profit is what you get after paying the loan that you borrowed for the project. If the project pay back period is 25 years then the money will be paid with interest within this time along with what you bag as profit.
For the sake of putting an argument in a positive way, I assumed an impossible 10% profit on sales. The actual profit will be zero or minus 50% considering that the Railway people are assuming 50,000 passengers every day of the year.

The number of passengers is only 20,000 now when the ticket is 600 Taka or something. I do not think 50,000 people will come and go every day if the ride is not free. Even a free ride will not cause people to gather in the stations if they have no works in Ctg or Dhaka.

Let the private sector undertake the project. Let them have tax breaks on import materials etc.... we will soon find out if it is feasible or not.
Yes, you are right. Generally speaking, the govt should sell all the railway transport businesses to private companies segment by segment. If so, the private people will not come up with such a non-profitable project that will take more than 200 years (maybe 400 years) to recover the investment money.

I request people to oppose my assertion of recovery of investment in 200/400 years with proper logic and math.
 

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