Despite hating Pakistanis : More Afghans crossing into Pakistan?

[Tshering22]

maybe we can transfer them to india via samjhutta express?
It is only a few million refugees in total plus these new comers.

You ruined their country, so you take the efforts to help them out of the mess.

BTW despite us being a friendly neutral party, we are helping them in best ways we can.

The day you stop creating havoc in their country, they will return.

What were you expecting after helping Taliban resurrect secretly?

 

[WrathOfKhan]

It is obvious to anyone that has had the misfortune of crossing paths with the Afghani at a neural setting the contempt and hatred with which they view us and whilst our eastern neighbor certainly barks no one is rabid in their hatred of us like the Afghani and it's a real tragedy the delusional Pakistani will discover this post 2014 rather than sooner, so for all you dreamers I have a surprise.

1. " scores of labourers from Lahore, Shiekhupura, Tahata and Gujranwala went to Afghanistan on legal travelling documents for to avail this employment opportunity.
On expiry of their visas, the mill owner who had restricted them to the mill premises asked them to leave without pay, Tariq said. On their return on Friday, the personnel at Maipar Post of Afghan Army stopped them and after knowing that they were Pakistanis, they dragged them out of two vehicles, he added.
“We were brutally tortured and the soldiers also tore passports of three of our companions. They threw the passports in river Kabul (that flows into Pakistan) and asked us to collect them at Attock bridge,” 59-year-old Akram from Gujranwala said in a trembling voice. “The soldiers threatened us ‘We will set you ablaze if you again came to Afghanistan."

Google: Pakistan protests Afghans’ torture on its 29 nationals.

2. "I came to Afghanistan with the expectation that I would be able to play the "Muslim card" and build alliances easily. Not exactly so. My Urdu language skills have helped me build solid relationships with Afghans. My background -- American, but mixed, with a predominance of Pakistani roots -- was initially a hindrance. The sense of distrust it provoked was rather astonishing, even to me, and I anticipated a great deal of this."

Google: Pakistanis & Afghans: Brothers in the Dysfunctional Family of Muslim Countries
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I could easily go all the way into the millions proving to blind Pakistanis they hate us but some of you still won't get the message.

 

[JonAsad]

You ruined their country, so you take the efforts to help them out of the mess.

BTW despite us being a friendly neutral party, we are helping them in best ways we can.

The day you stop creating havoc in their country, they will return.

What were you expecting after helping Taliban resurrect secretly?

something doesnt sound right-
it will sound logical if some one here claim that the afghan refuges crossing into Pakistan are taliban sympathizers- thats why they coming to a country which supposedly ruined their country- doesnt make sense at all--

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

More than two millions IDPs are rotting in camps, they need more attention and help.

Where is brotherhood for your own countrymen? They are surviving from help of pashtuns of KP and foriegn organizations.....tribals are nowadays in far worse situation than Afghan refugees.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Have you interacted with Afghans ? They all hate us, well save for "ate main namak ke baraber" few.

Let me quote for you an excerpt from Mullah Zaeef's Tome "My Life with the Taliban" (Mullah Zaeef was the Afghan ambassador to Pakistan under the Taliban regime):

¡°Pakistanis can get milk even from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody¡¯s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody. They deceive the Arabs by using the name of Islam, they milk America in war against terrorism and they have been deceiving Pakistanis in the name of Kashmiris, but behind the curtain they have been betraying everyone".

I would also encourage you to watch Afghan talk shows - The Pashtun participants are often more visceral in their hatred than the non-Pashtoon - this is subjective I know, but I assure you there is no real order of magnitude difference.

Mullah zaef is not wrong. Pakistan back-stabbed Afghan taliban and helped america to bomb the hell out of Afghanistan. Then they handed over an ambassador to American for dollars. Not just mullah zaef, our own pakistanis were sold to FBI. The best example is Aafia sadiqui.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sir, we could say the same thing about ourselves too:


Pakistani leadership has mostly been a bunch of s----d a------s.

However, I beg you all not to make fun of poor Pakistanis.

They have suffered so much decade after decade after decade .

No matter what they say, they are our brothers and sisters.


But what good does saying that do anybody?

off course



However I perhaps should have clarified that I was talking about "Afghanistani migrants/immigrants" in Pakistan and not Afghanistanis in general,

Sure if you see a destitute Pakistani immigrant stuck in Greece, after having sold his mother's jewelary, just so he could find a job. so must we make fun of that poor Pakistani?

Same way the OP is talking about Afghan immigrants who are running away from hell also known as Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan.

And oh by the way, you gotta visit Afghanisan to appreciate what you got in Pakistan.

Believe you me, with all the troubles we have in our beautiful country, majority of us are 1000s of times better than folks in Afghanistan.

Hope you now notice that I was talking about Afghanistani immigrants in Pakistan.

peace

 

[FaujHistorian]

Mullah zaef is not wrong. Pakistan back-stabbed Afghan taliban and helped america to bomb the hell out of Afghanistan. Then they handed over an ambassador to American for dollars. Not just mullah zaef, our own pakistanis were sold to FBI. The best example is Aafia sadiqui.

Oh Pulllleeeez cut this cr@p.

Talib@stards knew the awful power of Amreeka.

They would have been sent to hell, regardless if Pakistan was in the game or not.


you are talking like pathetic Turkish government before Gulf War 2.

They thought Amreeka cannot go to war without them giving access to the North.

Well Prez Bush was going to fry Sad-Damn, and he did that anyways.

same thing with Pakistan.


the Initial thrust and route of Talib@stards happened from the North all thank to CIA and Tajiks and Uzbeks.



Pakistan's "help" was only needed for sustaining the Afghanistan's @rse f^^cking and not the initial penetration and killing and routing of Talib@stards.



So learn a bit of history first. Will ya?

 

[M.harris]

I am sick and tired of these ******* afghans coming to my country.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I am sick and tired of these ******* afghans coming to my country.

you say this while sitting in a foreign land( UAE)?

Oh the irony.

 

[EAK]

you say this while sitting in a foreign land( UAE)?

Oh the irony.

whatever he is a Pakistani National and he have his rights..thats rude

 

[Sher Malang]

Man there is nothing left for pakistanis themselves in pakistan why would Afghans migrate back to pakistan?

They are mainly Afghan Hazaras and people who wants to move to a third country via pakistan cause they can find good smugglers within pakistan - they aren't there to stay and their numbers are not above 1 or 2 thousands.

But since the fall of Taliban a huge return of more than 5 million Afghan refugees from pakistan things suddenly change and thousands of pakistanis moved to Afghanistan for jobs, begging, persecutions, war/flood affected people etc...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/world/asia/30refugees.html?_r=0

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistanis flee into Afghanistan

Afghanistan emerges as new job market for Pakistanis - thenews.com.pk

Pakistani female beggars in Kabul | Pajhwok Afghan News

living room for Pakistani beggars in Kabul | Pajhwok Afghan News

 

[A1Kaid]

You ruined their country, so you take the efforts to help them out of the mess.

BTW despite us being a friendly neutral party, we are helping them in best ways we can.

The day you stop creating havoc in their country, they will return.

What were you expecting after helping Taliban resurrect secretly?

Their country was ruined in Soviet war in Afghanistan, next time don't talk about things you know little about. So by your logic Afghans should migrate to Russia.

Man there is nothing left for pakistanis themselves in pakistan why would Afghans migrate back to pakistan?

They are mainly Afghan Hazaras and people who wants to move to a third country via pakistan cause they can find good smugglers within pakistan - they aren't there to stay and their numbers are not above 1 or 2 thousands.

But since the fall of Taliban a huge return of more than 5 million Afghan refugees from pakistan things suddenly change and thousands of pakistanis moved to Afghanistan for jobs, begging, persecutions, war/flood affected people etc...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/world/asia/30refugees.html?_r=0


BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistanis flee into Afghanistan

Afghanistan emerges as new job market for Pakistanis - thenews.com.pk

Pakistani female beggars in Kabul | Pajhwok Afghan News

living room for Pakistani beggars in Kabul | Pajhwok Afghan News

Those that temporarily fled to Afghanistan were tribal Pathans fleeing after army operations, not because of economic prospects as you're stupidly trying to suggest. Two of the sources "Pahjwok Afghan" is just garbage Afghan news reports.

 

[Sher Malang]

Those that temporarily fled to Afghanistan were tribal Pathans fleeing after army operations, not because of economic prospects as you're stupidly trying to suggest. Two of the sources "Pahjwok Afghan" is just garbage Afghan news reports.

They are still there dude I visited Kunar in early 2012 and I have colleagues who have frequent official visits to eastern zone and recently they told me that people of tirah valley have also came there.

Pajhwok is one of the most reliable news agencies of Afghanistan and have a vast network of journalists, columnist, writers etc.. major world news broadcasters such as BBC, CNN, AlJazeera etc.. always quote them... but it's true what they write tastes bad to pakistanis and pakistani beggers from Kashmir, Baluchistan and KP are all over Jalalabad, Kabul, Ghazni, Kandahar most of them are involved in flesh trade mainly in Jalalabad the elders there have asked the government many times to expel them because they are violating the society and are harmful to adults.

 

[AstanoshKhan]

Man there is nothing left for pakistanis themselves in pakistan why would Afghans migrate back to pakistan?

But since the fall of Taliban a huge return of more than 5 million Afghan refugees from pakistan things suddenly change and thousands of pakistanis moved to Afghanistan for jobs, begging, persecutions, war/flood affected people etc...

Pakistani female beggars in Kabul | Pajhwok Afghan News

living room for Pakistani beggars in Kabul | Pajhwok Afghan News

Man you're certainly living in fool's paradise. Good for you.

 

[Sher Malang]

Man you're certainly living in fool's paradise. Good for you.

Mind if I take some photos of pakistani beggars for you tomorrow? because they come daily and hit my car's window and beg for money when I am at my way to work.