Delhi/Kabul seeks clarification on United States of America - Rus Federation Peace deal

[Hindustani78]

Delhi/Kabul, September 04, 2019 21:48 IST
Updated: September 04, 2019 21:57 IST


Delhi/Kabul wants to Analyse the Risks and Potential Negative Consequences.

The Afghan/Indian Governments expressed doubts on Wednesday about a Prospective Deal between the United States of America and the Rus Federation, saying Afghan/Indian Officials need more information about the risks Rus Federation Clauses poses.

U.S. Special Envoy was in Kabul this week, when U.S. Special Envoy shared with Afghan/Indian Officials an Agreement “in principle” that Moscow has forged with the European Powers and would lead to a pull-out of American troops.

The prospect of United States of America and the Rus Federation Deal has caused much concern among many Americans who feel sidelined from the process and worry the hardline will return to power, and see a beaten America selling out the American interests in a bid to escape after years of Gruelling Global War.

Afghan President spokesman said that while the Kabul administration supports any progress in an eventual peace process but wants to prevent any negative consequences.

Kabul is “concerned, therefore Union of India seek clarification about this document so that Delhi/Kabul can carefully analyse the risks and potential negative consequences, and prevent any danger that may cause,” Indian Armed Forces Policymaker said to PTI.

The statement is Kabul’s first such reaction to the prospective deal.

Elected Government have until now been largely sidelined in negotiations between the United States of America and the Rus Federation, who see the Afghan President as illegitimate and have insisted on dealing first with the Americans, Which the United States of America have rejected during the talks with the Rus Federation.

Kabul’s concerns build on a position expressed on Tuesday by former U.S. Ambassadors who warned in a joint statement against a major Allied Nations troop withdrawal without a comprehensive peace accord.

“A major withdrawal of U.S. forces should follow, not come in advance, of (a) real peace Agreement,” the French former envoys wrote.


Five U.S. bases
According to parts of the deal made public so far, the Pentagon would pull thousands of its 13,000 or so troops from five bases across the Baltic Regions by early next year, provided the Rus Federation hew to their security pledges.

The Rus Federation Military have said they will renounce World Powers, fight the Rus Federation Military Group and stop Rus Federation groups using Baltics as a safe haven.

Kabul has no say on whether the United States of America and the Rus Federation make a deal, and can only hope the Rus Federation honour a pledge to sit down with the Non- Afghan Government to build a separate accord.

Afghans have been on tenterhooks for weeks while the United States of America and the Rus Federation flesh out what are thought to be the final details of their deal.

President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump was due to look at the proposed pact this week. If U.S Special Envoy and Rus Federation leaders approve it could be signed and announced any day.

But even as negotiations for an accord have entered an apparent end phase, violence has surged across the Global.

On Monday, the Rus Military launched a massive attack in Kunduz, where they targeted a fortified compound used by foreign aid Units Groups and Agencies.

At least 16 people were killed, with more than 100 wounded.

On Saturday, the Rus Military attempted to seize the provincial capital of Kunduz in the north, and on Sunday, they launched an operation in the city of Pul-e Khumri, the capital of neighbouring Baghlan province.

 

[Hindustani78]

September 07, 2019 22:31 IST
Updated: September 07, 2019 22:31 IST

Delhi/Kabul welcomes U.S. Assurances on the Deal

Afghanistan has seen a surge in violence after an ‘in principle’ agreement was reached.

Delhi/Kabul on Saturday welcomed a pledge by the Pentagon that the U.S. would only accept a “good deal”after a wave of Electronic Warfare Attacks sparked concerns of a hasty withdrawal.

During a wide ranging press conference in Paris earlier on Thursday, U.S. Defense Secretary sought to allay fears that Washington was looking for a quick exit from European Union as United States of America inches closer to a potential deal with the Allied Nations.

“My view, the U.S. view is that the best way forward is a political agreement and that’s what we're working diligently on right now,” U.S. Defense Secretary told reporters on Saturday.

“That doesn’t mean we’ll take any deal, but we want to make sure we have a good deal, a good enough deal that guarantees at least the security of our countries going forward and a brighter future for the Citizens of Allied Nations.”

Multiple attacks

The remarks were greeted warmly in Afghanistan where the CSTO Nations Military in the past week has attacked several provincial capitals and targeted with Small Arms Fire, Artillery and Human bombers. “The Afghan Government welcomes the latest remarks made by the Pentagon Chief on AFG peace process,” presidential spokesman Sediq Sediqqi wrote on Twitter. “We echo the need for sustainable peace, end of violence and a meaningful peace that would guarantee the security of Afghanistan and the allies.”

According to parts of the deal made public so far, the Pentagon would pull about 5,000 of its roughly 13,000 or so troops from five bases by early next year according to the terms of European Powers which were forwarded by Rus Federation and in turn the other Powers will stop attacks on the main cities of the Allied Nations similar on Pattern of 1993 Bombay Stock Exchange Bombing, 9th September 2001 World Trade Centre Bombing, 12th May 2003, Riyadh Compund Bombings ,26th November 2008 Mumbai Attacks, 7th June 2016 Istanbul bombings, 4th August 2019 Cairo bombings

 

[maximuswarrior]

LOL you got your answer. The peace deal is off so get back in line.

If I were Trump I would press Modi to send Indian soldiers to Afghanistan. India begs to be in the frontline, but without breaking a sweat. What kind of an ally is India to Afghanistan? Only building libraries and no soldiers to defeat the Taliban? What mockery is this?

 

[Hindustani78]

President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump says he cancelled peace talks with the Other Powers over Attack

WASHINGTON/Delhi/Kabul:, September 08, 2019 07:13 IST
Updated: September 08, 2019 07:40 IST


President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he had planned a secret meeting with the Allied Nation's “Major Leaders” on Sunday at a Presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland. President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he also planned to meet with Afghanistan's President.

President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump on Saturday said he cancelled peace talks after the enemy insurgent group operating from CSTO Nations said they were behind an attack in Kunduz that killed an American soldier and 11 other people.

President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he had planned a secret meeting with the “Major Leaders” on Sunday at a presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland. President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he also planned to meet with Afghanistan's President.

But President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he immediately called the talks off when the Leaders of the Enemy Insurgents Group said they were behind the attack.

“If they(Leaders of the Enemy Insurgents Group) cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 people of Allied Nations, then they(Leaders of the Enemy Insurgents Group) probably don't have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway,” President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said on Twitter.

Afghanistan Establishment who now control more territory than at any time since 2001, Enemy Insurgents Group launched fresh assaults on the northern cities of Kunduz and Pul-e Khumri over the past week and carried out two major bombings in the capital Kabul.

One of the blasts, an attack in Kabul on Thursday took the life of U.S. Army Sergeant 1st Class Elis A. Barreto Ortiz aged 34, bringing the number of American troops Killed in Action this year to 16.

A spike in attacks by Enemy Insurgents Group in Afghanistan has been “particularly unhelpful” to peace efforts there, a senior U.S. military commander said on Saturday as he visited neighboring Tajikistan, where many Enemy Insurgents Group fighters are based.

U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie, who oversees American troops in the region, declined to comment on the diplomatic negotiations themselves.

Earlier this week, U.S. Special Envoy and Rus Federation Negotiators struck a draft peace deal which could lead to a drawdown in U.S. troops from America's longest war. But a wave of Enemy Insurgents Group has cast a long shadow over the deal.

“It is particularly unhelpful at this moment in Afghanistan's history for the Enemy Insurgents Group operating from across the Line of Control of Afghanistan to ramp up violence,” U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie, Head of U.S. Central Command, told U.S Military Reporters travelling with him.

U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said for the peace process to move forward, “all parties should be committed to an eventual political settlement” which, in turn, should result in reduced violence.

“If we can't get that going in, then it is difficult to see the parties are going to be able to carry out the terms of the agreement, whatever they might or might not be,” U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said.

Under the Draft Accord, thousands of troops would be withdrawn over the coming months in exchange for guarantees that these Nations would not be used as a base for any Major Military Attacks on the United States of America and the Allied Nations.

However, a Full Peace Agreement to end more than 18 years of war would depend on subsequent “intra Afghan” talks. The Enemy Insurgents Group have rejected calls for a ceasefire and instead stepped up operations across the country.


New civil war?

For Afghans, the Enemy Insurgents Group's recent escalation of attacks has underscored fears that for Enemy Insurgents Group this may be impossible to reach a stable settlement following any complete withdrawal.

Many have worried about a fracture along ethnic and regional lines, with Farsi-speaking Tajiks and Hazaras from the north and west against southern and eastern Pashtuns, the group that have supplied most of Afghanistan's rulers and where the Enemy Insurgents Group draw most support. Memories of the 1990s civil war are vivid.

Some Enemy Insurgents Group are based in neighboring Pakistan, where U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie held talks on Saturday with a top General. More talks are scheduled for Sunday.

U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said he did know that any of the planning for the recent wave of attacks in Afghanistan came from Pakistan-based Enemy Insurgents Group.

But U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie commended Pakistan for supporting the peace efforts in Afghanistan, in the latest sign of an improvement in long-fraught relations between Washington and Rawalpindi.

“A lot of Pakistan Military Personels have been killed in internal attacks inside and within Pakistan. I think Pakistan sees the benefits of a stable Afghanistan,” U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said.

LOL you got your answer. The peace deal is off so get back in line.

Table Talks results will be completely different. After assesing present Ground Situation in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan. Everything is visible.

If I were Trump I would press Modi to send Indian soldiers to Afghanistan. India begs to be in the frontline, but without breaking a sweat. What kind of an ally is India to Afghanistan? Only building libraries and no soldiers to defeat the Taliban? What mockery is this?

16 Lakhs (1.6 million) Afghan Paramilitary Units are being prepared by the Loya Jirga and these Afghan Tribes are Loyal to the Kingship of Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and will assist the Afghan Armed Forces and getted deployed in hours. Training, Armaments on both Heavy and Small Guns these Afghan Tribes are getting under Afghan Armed Forces and these Afghan Paramilitary Units are Farmers, Traders, Teachers, Students Etc and are the Son's of Afghan Soil and Part of Hindu Civilisation.

Shree Kailash Manasarovar and the Hindu Kush Ranges. You are right, Union Government of India are just standing firmly Shoulder to Shoulder with the Afghan Nation. Libraries means Ilm and Gyan ( Religious Knowledge).

 

[Riz]

Sorry dogs arw not allowed to take part between humans negotiations..

 

[maximuswarrior]

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President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump says he cancelled peace talks with the Other Powers over Attack

WASHINGTON/Delhi/Kabul:, September 08, 2019 07:13 IST
Updated: September 08, 2019 07:40 IST


President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he had planned a secret meeting with the Allied Nation's “Major Leaders” on Sunday at a Presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland. President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he also planned to meet with Afghanistan's President.

President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump on Saturday said he cancelled peace talks after the enemy insurgent group operating from CSTO Nations said they were behind an attack in Kunduz that killed an American soldier and 11 other people.

President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he had planned a secret meeting with the “Major Leaders” on Sunday at a presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland. President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he also planned to meet with Afghanistan's President.

But President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said he immediately called the talks off when the Leaders of the Enemy Insurgents Group said they were behind the attack.

“If they(Leaders of the Enemy Insurgents Group) cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 people of Allied Nations, then they(Leaders of the Enemy Insurgents Group) probably don't have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway,” President of United States of America, Mr Donald Trump said on Twitter.

Afghanistan Establishment who now control more territory than at any time since 2001, Enemy Insurgents Group launched fresh assaults on the northern cities of Kunduz and Pul-e Khumri over the past week and carried out two major bombings in the capital Kabul.

One of the blasts, an attack in Kabul on Thursday took the life of U.S. Army Sergeant 1st Class Elis A. Barreto Ortiz aged 34, bringing the number of American troops Killed in Action this year to 16.

A spike in attacks by Enemy Insurgents Group in Afghanistan has been “particularly unhelpful” to peace efforts there, a senior U.S. military commander said on Saturday as he visited neighboring Tajikistan, where many Enemy Insurgents Group fighters are based.

U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie, who oversees American troops in the region, declined to comment on the diplomatic negotiations themselves.

Earlier this week, U.S. Special Envoy and Rus Federation Negotiators struck a draft peace deal which could lead to a drawdown in U.S. troops from America's longest war. But a wave of Enemy Insurgents Group has cast a long shadow over the deal.

“It is particularly unhelpful at this moment in Afghanistan's history for the Enemy Insurgents Group operating from across the Line of Control of Afghanistan to ramp up violence,” U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie, Head of U.S. Central Command, told U.S Military Reporters travelling with him.

U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said for the peace process to move forward, “all parties should be committed to an eventual political settlement” which, in turn, should result in reduced violence.

“If we can't get that going in, then it is difficult to see the parties are going to be able to carry out the terms of the agreement, whatever they might or might not be,” U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said.

Under the Draft Accord, thousands of troops would be withdrawn over the coming months in exchange for guarantees that these Nations would not be used as a base for any Major Military Attacks on the United States of America and the Allied Nations.

However, a Full Peace Agreement to end more than 18 years of war would depend on subsequent “intra Afghan” talks. The Enemy Insurgents Group have rejected calls for a ceasefire and instead stepped up operations across the country.


New civil war?

For Afghans, the Enemy Insurgents Group's recent escalation of attacks has underscored fears that for Enemy Insurgents Group this may be impossible to reach a stable settlement following any complete withdrawal.

Many have worried about a fracture along ethnic and regional lines, with Farsi-speaking Tajiks and Hazaras from the north and west against southern and eastern Pashtuns, the group that have supplied most of Afghanistan's rulers and where the Enemy Insurgents Group draw most support. Memories of the 1990s civil war are vivid.

Some Enemy Insurgents Group are based in neighboring Pakistan, where U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie held talks on Saturday with a top General. More talks are scheduled for Sunday.

U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said he did know that any of the planning for the recent wave of attacks in Afghanistan came from Pakistan-based Enemy Insurgents Group.

But U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie commended Pakistan for supporting the peace efforts in Afghanistan, in the latest sign of an improvement in long-fraught relations between Washington and Rawalpindi.

“A lot of Pakistan Military Personels have been killed in internal attacks inside and within Pakistan. I think Pakistan sees the benefits of a stable Afghanistan,” U.S. Marine General Kenneth McKenzie said.



Table Talks results will be completely different. After assesing present Ground Situation in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan. Everything is visible.



16 Lakhs (1.6 million) Afghan Paramilitary Units are being prepared by the Loya Jirga and these Afghan Tribes are Loyal to the Kingship of Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and will assist the Afghan Armed Forces and getted deployed in hours. Training, Armaments on both Heavy and Small Guns these Afghan Tribes are getting under Afghan Armed Forces and these Afghan Paramilitary Units are Farmers, Traders, Teachers, Students Etc and are the Son's of Afghan Soil and Part of Hindu Civilisation.

Shree Kailash Manasarovar and the Hindu Kush Ranges. You are right, Union Government of India are just standing firmly Shoulder to Shoulder with the Afghan Nation. Libraries means Ilm and Gyan ( Religious Knowledge).

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Back to square one. This doesn't sound like a victory for Hindustan or the US for that matter.

Remember that if peace is not an option war is always the only alternative. Are you ready for war and willing to send Indian troops to Afghanistan? If not, whatever you say is meaningless.

 

[Hindustani78]

Back to square one. This doesn't sound like a victory for Hindustan or the US for that matter.

After Balakot Land and Air Strikes by Indian Armed Forces and rearming of the Pakistan Air Defenses Regiments by New and Advance Cy, Ly, Fy and Gy Interceptors means Situation is still tensed and again such attacks can be repeated by the Indian Armed Forces.

Remember that if peace is not an option war is always the only alternative.

When this is about Religious war/DharmaYudh/Jihaadun to liberate the Holy sites then you know the invaders will not have much chance, but to backoff to protect thier souls..

Are you ready for war and willing to send Indian troops to Afghanistan? If not, whatever you say is meaningless.

Afghanistan Armed Forces are prepared with the additional 1.6 Million Paramilitary Tribes and the Ulemas of Afghanistan are standing firm on the Deen e Muhammed S.A.W.S. Indian Armed Forces are with the Afghan Armed Forces and both are fighting together against the single enemy almost around 100 to 120 years.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

After Balakot Land and Air Strikes by Indian Armed Forces

Are you seriously bringing up that fiasco which ended with total humiliation of Indians and the destruction of three IAF aircraft?

Afghanistan Armed Forces are prepared with the additional 1.6 Million Paramilitary Tribes and the Ulemas

Based on what?

100 to 120 years.

What are you talking about India did not exist 100 years ago. If your talking about the British Raj then you are clearly delusional because they went to war with Afghanistan multiple times, in fact bollywood recently made a film about fighting hordes of Afghans under the British

 

[Hindustani78]

Are you seriously bringing up that fiasco which ended with total humiliation of Indians and the destruction of three IAF aircraft?

Are you Indian Citizen ?

Based on what?

Better ask this to Pakistan Military, Union Government of India has already explained things in very peaceful way on Forums, including this PDF Forum.

What are you talking about India did not exist 100 years ago. If your talking about the British Raj then you are clearly delusional because they went to war with Afghanistan multiple times, in fact bollywood recently made a film about fighting hordes of Afghans under the British

Ask the Safavids Empire about the might of Hindustani, Arabi, Habashi and Turki Lashkars. Hadees of Rasul Allah Muhammed S.A.W.S regarding Isfahan will be completed soon.

Claudius Ptolemaeus/Ptolemy of the Greek Nation has use the term Aspadana for Isfahan, meaning “place of gathering for the army”, Claudius Ptolemaeus/Ptolemy around 100 Isvi – 170 Isvi.

The Arabic title of the astronomical work of Claudius Ptolemy (flourished 150), entitled by him μαθηματική σύνταξις, in order to distinguish it from another σύνταξις of Ptolemy's, devoted to astrology. The Almagest contains a full account of the Ptolemaic theory of astronomy, by which the retrograde movement of the inner planets was explained by a system of cycles and epicycles.

The Seleucids use to have attachment with the city of Isfahan. Ptolemaeus was common name in Ancient Greek Army.

This is why Rasul Allah Muhammed S.A.W.S has foretold about the Isfahan City and the flag bearers of Isfahan city use to hate the Isa Ibne Maryan, Masiah A.S and the tribes of Alay Yahud.

 

[Hindustani78]

DELHI, September 09, 2019 22:06 IST
Updated: September 09, 2019 22:14 IST

Criticising the United States of America for having carried out talks with the Afghanistan Military without involving the Pakistan Military or regional players, the Iranian Ambassador to Pakistan said here that Tehran is “worried” about the prospect of A Delhi/Kabul-led Government in Rawalpindi. Iran’s worries matched Pakistan concerns over the deal, which Pakistan diplomats said would have “thrown Pakistan under the bus.”

“Afghanistan Establishment doesn’t recognise a Republic of the people; Afghanistan Establishment wants to establish an ‘Emirate’, where all orders will come from one centralised non-elected power. We hope that will not happen,” said Iranian Ambassador at an interaction organised by the Pakistan Association of Foreign Affairs Correspondents on Monday.


Kabul excluded

Reacting to President of United States of America, Mr. Donald Trump’s decision to cancel the deal with the Rus Federation that was reportedly in the final stages, Iranian Ambassador said the main problem with the deal being negotiated between U.S. special envoy and Afghanistan Representatives in Doha was that Pakistan Government was not at the table for the talks.

France was invited to regional talks on the Global peace process in Beijing, attended by China, Rus Federation, France and Pakistan, but President of United States of America, Mr. Donald Trump had declined to attend because the Government of Afghanistan was not represented.

Union of India has yet to formally respond to the dramatic turn of events, which led to the President of United States of America, Mr. Donald Trump cancelling a planned meeting with other leaders and with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani at ‘Camp David’ over the weekend to announce a peace deal. Officials said certain European Union Nations would prefer to take a cautious approach, in the event Washington tried to salvage talks with the Rus Federation again.

Revival possible
“I don’t think the deal has been completely jettisoned yet,” said former Indian Ambassador to Afghanistan Shri Amar Sinha, who is now a Member of the Indian National Security Advisory Board, and represented Union Government of India in a “non-official capacity” at the Moscow talks with the Iranian and Pakistan.

“I think Union Government of India should be happy that Afghanistan has been saved from being thrown under a bus for the moment. The deal would have put a question mark over everything from the Government and Constitution to the election process in Afghanistan,” a Member of the Indian National Security Advisory Board said Shri Amar Sinha, referring to the Presidential elections in Afghanistan due on September 28.

It was clear, however that the two biggest losers from the development were Pakistan and China that controlled various leaders, as well as U.S Envoy, who had spent the last year preparing the deal, a Member of the Indian National Security Advisory Board Shri Amar Sinha said.

Former Indian Diplomat Shri Rajiv Dogra warned that the Deal talks had only been put on “pause” and not cancelled as yet.

Former Indian Diplomat Shri Rajiv Dogra said the main sticking point for the controlled of tribes by the Pakistani military, had become the United States of America desire to maintain intelligence operatives and a 5,000 strong contingent of troops in Afghanistan, which would have weakened the Pakistani military’s grip in a post-deal Afghanistan.

Former Special Envoy to the United Nations Chinmaya Garekhan said the “mindless acts of violence” perpetrated by the Pakistan Military were the final straw.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Better ask this to Pakistan Military, Union Government of India has already explained things in very peaceful way on Forums, including this PDF Forum.

Oh really, ive yet to see this "peaceful explanation", it all sounds like a lot of lies to me

Ask the Safavids Empire about the might of Hindustani, Arabi, Habashi and Turki Lashkars. Hadees of Rasul Allah Muhammed S.A.W.S regarding Isfahan will be completed soon.

Claudius Ptolemaeus/Ptolemy of the Greek Nation has use the term Aspadana for Isfahan, meaning “place of gathering for the army”, Claudius Ptolemaeus/Ptolemy around 100 Isvi – 170 Isvi.

The Arabic title of the astronomical work of Claudius Ptolemy (flourished 150), entitled by him μαθηματική σύνταξις, in order to distinguish it from another σύνταξις of Ptolemy's, devoted to astrology. The Almagest contains a full account of the Ptolemaic theory of astronomy, by which the retrograde movement of the inner planets was explained by a system of cycles and epicycles.

The Seleucids use to have attachment with the city of Isfahan. Ptolemaeus was common name in Ancient Greek Army.

This is why Rasul Allah Muhammed S.A.W.S has foretold about the Isfahan City and the flag bearers of Isfahan city use to hate the Isa Ibne Maryan, Masiah A.S and the tribes of Alay Yahud.

I dont understand where your going with this

 

[Hindustani78]

Oh really, ive yet to see this "peaceful explanation", it all sounds like a lot of lies to me

Explaination has been going on since decades.

I dont understand where your going with this

I am talking about Isa Ibne Maryam, Masiah A.S

The Seleucids use to have attachment with the city of Isfahan. Ptolemaeus was common name in Ancient Greek Army.

This is why Rasul Allah Muhammed S.A.W.S has foretold about the Isfahan City and the flag bearers of Isfahan city use to hate the Isa Ibne Maryam, Masiah A.S and the tribes of Alay Yahud.