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Hindu holy book Bhagavad Gita endorses killing by the warrior caste - if the cause is to uphold dharma - righteousness - then no sin or bad karma is incurred

Bhagavad Gita Chapter 18 verse 59
If you do not act according to My direction and do not fight, then you will be falsely directed. By your nature, you will have to be engaged in warfare.

RSS people take upon themselves the mandate of re-establishing and saving their 'dharma' e.g one of the core value of dharma is no cow slaughter




Kind sir/madam,

Thank you for this valuable input. Most interesting.

So, it is upto warrior caste to do the killings?

Who decides upon their 'Righteousness'? Priestly caste?

And what is the role of other castes/classes in hindu religion when warriors go out to cleanse...and make things Right again?

Anyhow, most fascinating stuff..this. Just brilliant...

Can we then calssify, in your opinion, hinduism as a system? For wont of better word: System of Living and After Life Matters?


R-SS justifications would be most valuable. Thought processes, morality and spirituality of forcing others to convert to your faith or leave or somehting worse... is pretty strong medicine, one must say...

R-SS and its offsprings must have some very deeply spiritual justification for the above mentioned. Or is just good old fashioned fasict party with Will to Power...


One last question (for now!)...

so, this hindu Karma is rather a flexible enterprise then?

Could it be changed for better through offerings to gods? Or the so-called good deeds and related repentences?

For example: conversion of minorities to hindu faithsystem is the a Right thing to do?


Many thanks!

With regards,

SPF
 
What were they thinking while chanting religious slogans outside a Mosque in a Muslim majority area? Thats clearly provocation.
 
Kind sir/madam,
So, it is upto warrior caste to do the killings?

Who decides upon their 'Righteousness'? Priestly caste?

And what is the role of other castes/classes in hindu religion when warriors go out to cleanse...and make things Right again?

Anyhow, most fascinating stuff..this. Just brilliant

Can we then calssify, in your opinion, hinduism as a system? For wont of better word: System of Living and After Life Matters?


R-SS justifications would be most valuable. Thought processes, morality and spirituality of forcing others to convert to your faith or leave or somehting worse... is pretty strong medicine, one must say...

R-SS and its offsprings must have some very deeply spiritual justification for the above mentioned. Or is just good old fashioned fasict party with Will to Power...


One last question (for now!)...

so, this hindu Karma is rather a flexible enterprise then?

Could it be changed for better through offerings to gods? Or the so-called good deeds and related repentences?

For example: conversion of minorities to hindu faithsystem is the a Right thing to do?


Many thanks!

With regards,

SPF

1) Who decides - the spiritual / organization leaders as they have the power and authority to influence the mass.

2) Role of the other caste - Sudras (laborers) and mercantile castes serve the priestly/ warrior caste through labour and finance

3) RSS objective is Hindu rashtra (polity) , the protection of Hinduism and establishing a Hindu state - which is subjective e.g imposing Sanskrit/Hindi or Aryan values upon natives ?

4) RSS justification is Islamic invasion, Christian proselyting and the resurgence of a mighty Hindu nation

5) Karma is a complex subject (e.g past, present and future). Negative karma can be mitigated by good deeds , detachment or through the grace of the gods
 
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1) Who decides - the spiritual / organization leaders as they have the power and authority to influence the mass.

2) Role of the other caste - Sudras (laborers) and mercantile castes serve the priestly/ warrior caste through labour and finance

3) RSS objective is Hindu rashtra (polity) , the protection of Hinduism and establishing a Hindu state - which is subjective e.g imposing Sanskrit/Hindi or Aryan values upon natives ?

4) RSS justification is Islamic invasion, Christian proselyting and the a resurgent mighty Hindu nation

5) Karma is a complex subject (e.g past, present and future). Negative karma can be mitigated by good deeds , detachment or through the grace of the gods



Kind sir/madam,

Thank you once again. Your feedback adds yet anohter layer of understanding...

So, from R-SS perspective they are doing Noble Work for their faithsystem?

All R-SS needs now is to a bit more consolidation of Power and Organisation...after all they have been very long in their arrival to where they are today...

How old is R-SS? If one is not mistaken it is worlds oldest and still thriving fasicst org.
No one can ever accuse these people of not being dedicated to their Cause!


We outsiders will be watching for another Reichtag burning incedent...one hopes it never, ever happens again...


You all be careful and avoid public debates with anyone who is supporting a Cause of this type... nasty business this...regadless how intruiging study it might make...

Be wise and careful.

Regards,

SPF
 
There is no such requirement for any "true" Hindu to do anything

One is free to harm any living or non living things, indulge in all kinds of sinful and non sinful behavior. Hinduism only shows the path to dharma, to walk or not to walk on that path is purely that person's choice. There is no compulsion either way.

Ravan or Duryodhan is a good example of Hindus who did not walk the path of dharma, that however did not make them "Untrue" Hindus.


This is a classic Abrahamic religion's excuse of someone not being a "good" muslim or a "good" christian. Hinduism has nothing of that sort. In Hinduism you just have good people and bad people.

You are free to believe anything you want, including that the earth is flat. That is your prerogative.

First you say that you have "read" about the fascists, and then go on to say its Your own assessment :cheesy:

SO which is it ? Your own assessment or what you have read ?

Hinduism might not have the concept of good Hindu vs bad Hindu, as the term 'Hindu' is non existent in 'Hindu' scriptures but Vedic religion classifies people into divine /devas vs evil/ asuras.

Bhagavad Gita Chapter 16 Verse 6

O son of Prtha, in this world there are two kinds of created beings. One is called the divine and the other demonic. I have already explained to you at length the divine qualities. Now hear from Me of the demoniac.

BG Chapter 16 Verse 17

Self-complacent and always impudent, deluded by wealth and false prestige, they sometimes perform sacrifices in name only without following any rules or regulations

BG Chapter 16 Verse 19

Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, are cast by Me into the ocean of material existence, into various demoniac species of life.

your assertion that thers no requirements is not correct
The Mahabharata tells us that addiction to hunting, dice playing, women, and wine are the four things that lead to a man’s downfall.

These four activities translate into the pillars of sinful life; meat eating, gambling, illicit sex, and intoxication.

https://krishnasmercy.com/teachings/the-four-regulative-principles/
 
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Rape! What is the problem of some Indians? Why they love rape so much? India already has huge gender imbalance especially among Hindus...
what can i say. there are a lot of reasons. but believe me when i say this, we all hate whats happening (increase in rapes).

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This guy is a policeman???
i thought he was some local guy who stood guard.
 
yes, he is a policeman in plainclothes
Yes, I can understand what is plainclothes police. Plainclothes are usually hidden in the crowd. To prevent thieves or robbers, to avoid being found. Usually in a railway station or crime prone area. But what I can't understand is that he has taken over police power so clearly. He is still considered "plainclothes police"?
 
Thank you, kind sir, for yet again providing 'free' education!

I have a question for you. Of course, you may choose to not answer it.


Isn't it required of true hindus not to harm any living thing..since gods live in them...bad for your Karma, since you might return as one... so, how could these R-SS people can be so removed from the core of hindu beliefs?

I have read here at PDF how some dedicated fascists believe in their own religious supermacy, even willing to destroy thousands of place of worships of the minotries with predictable loss of human life... from anathropological piont of view this contradiction makes a good study.

Or am I wrong in this assesment?


In any case your feedback will help form a better understanding on different levels.

Regards,

SPF
I guess you already got your answer from one of the poster here. I just want to add my bit here. What RSS does is, teach its idea of Hinduism to young minds through its multiple educational organisations. They create a fear psychosis against minorities among masses and thus half of their job is done.

i thought he was some local guy who stood guard.
He is a local guy at least that is what I deduced after reading the headline and article.
 
I guess you already got your answer from one of the poster here. I just want to add my bit here. What RSS does is, teach its idea of Hinduism to young minds through its multiple educational organisations. They create a fear psychosis against minorities among masses and thus half of their job is done.


He is a local guy at least that is what I deduced after reading the headline and article.



Thanks for add up!


Indeed, it is very valid obersation: Capture their minds and their hands will follow.


As you elaborated somewhere else, this R-SS is quite an old menance and has been working for very long..

Running of educational orgs and charities do serve their purpose...as does the cover of so-called development agenda. All part of building a narrative.

In the end all fascists want to gain Total Power.

Given the history and strategic patience of R-SS and its offsprings...their moment seems to have arrived now.

Is their collaboration between big business/oligarchs and these R-SS or affiliated organisations?

That is only missing part really.

Thanks for providing a windown into these peoples and their mindset.
 
Thanks for add up!


Indeed, it is very valid obersation: Capture their minds and their hands will follow.


As you elaborated somewhere else, this R-SS is quite an old menance and has been working for very long..

Running of educational orgs and charities do serve their purpose...as does the cover of so-called development agenda. All part of building a narrative.

In the end all fascists want to gain Total Power.

Given the history and strategic patience of R-SS and its offsprings...their moment seems to have arrived now.

Is their collaboration between big business/oligarchs and these R-SS or affiliated organisations?

That is only missing part really.

Thanks for providing a windown into these peoples and their mindset.
RSS was born as a reaction to the atrocities committed by Muslim against Hindus..Only recently have Hindus become emboldened...Earlier they were like pussy cats who were beaten black and blue by Muslims..Hindus couldn't even stop Hindu exodus from Kashmir(from their own land)..RSS and BJP thrive as long as Islamic fascism,bigotism and extremism exist..Once Islamic fascism disappears ,RSS too loses its support and will become a page in history
 
Is their collaboration between big business/oligarchs and these R-SS or affiliated organisations?

That is only missing part really.
There is bound to be some collaboration between Sangh and Corporations either directly or indirectly. A few links below will help you understand that

Where do RSS funds come from? - Times of India

RSS-Corporate Interface in Adivasi India | Peoples Democracy

US firms linked to extremist Indian cause - Campaign to Stop Funding


 
RSS was born as a reaction to the atrocities committed by Muslim against Hindus..Only recently have Hindus become emboldened...Earlier they were like pussy cats who were beaten black and blue by Muslims..Hindus couldn't even stop Hindu exodus from Kashmir(from their own land)..RSS and BJP thrive as long as Islamic fascism,bigotism and extremism exist..Once Islamic fascism disappears ,RSS too loses its support and will become a page in history

You are mistaken.

RSS was born after the British created the Muslim League and decide to implement the Two nation theory starting with the partition of Bengal in 1905 along religious lines in partnership with the ML.

The British further tried to split the Hindus by using "Caste" to divide the polity. RSS was formed to prevent this damage to Hindu unity and culture. The philosophy it followed was Hindutva and its primary objective was freedom from British Rule and the philosophy its founder Dr. Hegdewar followed was of Veer Savarkar, Freedom by any means.

Right from its initial days, major emphasis was placed on dedication and discipline, both mental and physical, as a means to restore strength,valor and courage in Hindu youth and to foster unity among Hindus.

It got drawn into the protection of Hindus during the Riots which the British engineered and allowed to happen, to further divide the state and sap people's will.

Its fight against islamic supremacist philosophy is just incidental.
 

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