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Will a senior, seasoned, experienced hand, Moderator or Administrator explain to me why Muslims are again murdering each other in Darfur today, in 2011, in Africa?

Over 400,000 dead and over 2,500,000 million Mulsims displaced.


“We — even we here — hold the power, and bear the responsibility.”

—Abraham Lincoln, 1862

Genocide in Darfur--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Latest News from Darfur

Feb. 6 2010: Clashes between the government of Sudan and rebel forces in the town of Kalamandu in North Darfur killed five people.

The government of Sudan and UNAMID agreed on the operating rules of the peacekeeping force after finalizing the Status of Force Agreement.


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Genocide in Darfur, Sudan

About the size of Texas, the Darfur region of Sudan is home to racially mixed tribes of settled peasants, who identify as African, and nomadic herders, who identify as Arab. The majority of people in both groups are Muslim.

In the ongoing genocide, African farmers and others in Darfur are being systematically displaced and murdered at the hands of the Janjaweed, a government-supported militia recruited from local Arab tribes. The genocide in Darfur has claimed 400,000 lives [The corrected and correct number killed in Darfur since 1989 when the war started in Darfur is over TWO MILLION KILLED AND OVER FOUR MILLION DISPLACED] and displaced over 2,500,000 people. More than one hundred people continue to die each day; five thousand die every month.

Government neglect has left people throughout Sudan poor and voiceless and has caused conflict throughout the country. In February 2003, frustrated by poverty and neglect, two Darfurian rebel groups launched an uprising against the Khartoum government.

The government responded with a scorched-earth campaign, enlisting the help of a militia of Arab nomadic tribes in the region against the innocent civilians of Darfur.

Since February 2003, the Sudanese government in Khartoum and the government-sponsored Janjaweed militia have used rape, displacement, organized starvation, threats against aid workers and mass murder. Violence, disease, and displacement continue to kill thousands of innocent Darfurians every month.

Americans have a particularly important role to play in supporting peace in Darfur. The US government has been proactive in speaking out in support of the people of Darfur, but there is still much work that needs to be done. The United States and international governments have yet to take the actions needed to end this genocide.

Long-term peace in Darfur requires that the government of Sudan, the Janjaweed militia forces and the rebel groups of Darfur find a way to resolve their political and economic disputes. The international community managed to broker a peace deal in May 2006, but violence in Darfur actually increased in the wake of this deal.

Thousands of innocent civilians continue to die from murder, disease and starvation every month. Today, millions of displaced civilians living in refugee camps are in dire need of international support as the violence continues.

At this time, human security is the highest priority for the people of Darfur. The world has left the responsibility of providing security to the African Union Peacekeeping Mission in Darfur. As Sally Chin of Refugees International has noted, the world has given the African Union “the responsibility to protect, but not the power to protect.”

We must now work to ensure that the world fulfills its responsibility to protect the civilians of Darfur.

For the latest news from Darfur, check out the Genocide Intervention Network’s Darfur News Briefs.

Here are US war dead ranked since the founding of the USA...to highlight the fact of how awfully high and terrible the number of deaths are in Darfur intra-Muslim fighting in modern current times:

Wars ranked by combat deaths Rank War Years Deaths
1 World War II 1937–1945 291,557
2 American Civil War 1861–1865 212,938
3 World War I 1917–1918 53,402
4 Vietnam War 1955–1975 58,267***(Corrected number)
5 Korean War 1950–1953 33,746
6 American Revolutionary War 1775–1783 8,000
7 War on terror 2001–present 4,295
8 War of 1812 1812–1815 2,260
9 Mexican–American War 1846–1848 1,733
10 Northwest Indian War 1785–1795 1,221+

Here is more detailed info on the Muslim vs. Muslim war in Darfur:

In 1989 the National Islamic Front (NIF), led by General Omar al-Bashir, seized power in Sudan from the democratically elected government of Sadiq al Mahdi, in a bloodless coup. The NIF revoked the constitution, banned opposition parties, unravelled steps towards peace and instead proclaimed jihad against the non-Muslim South, regularly using ethnic militias to do the fighting. Although depending on Muslim Darfur for political support, the NIF’s programme of ‘Arabization’ further marginalized the region’s ‘African’ population.

The regime harboured several Islamic fundamentalist organizations, including providing a home for Osama bin Laden from 1991 until 1996, when the US forced his expulsion. Sudan was implicated in the June 1995 assassination attempt on Egyptian President Mubarak. Its support for terrorists and increasing international isolation culminated in a US cruise-missile attack on a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory in 1998, following terrorist bombings of the US embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.

The Comprehensive Peace Agreement

When President George W Bush came to power in 2000, US policy shifted from isolationism to engagement with Sudan. After 11 September 2001 Bashir ‘fell into line’, started to co-operate with the US in their ‘war on terror’ and a peace process began in earnest in the South.
After years of painstaking negotiations, and under substantial pressure from the US, in January 2005 a Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) was signed between the Government and the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A), ending 21 years of bloody war which killed two million people, displaced another four million and razed southern Sudan to the ground.
A surprisingly favourable deal for the South, the CPA included a power-sharing agreement leading up to a referendum on independence for the South in 2011, a 50-50 share of the profits from its lucrative oilfields, national elections in 2009, and 10,000 UN peacekeepers to oversee the agreement’s implementation. But the ‘comprehensive’ deal completely ignored Darfur, catalyzing the conflict that is currently engulfing the region.

The rebels attack

Rebellion had been brewing in marginalized, poverty-stricken Darfur for years. After decades in the political wilderness, being left out of the peace negotiations was the final straw. Inspired by the SPLA’s success, rebel attacks against Government targets became increasingly frequent as two main rebel groups emerged – the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) and the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM). By early 2003 they had formed an alliance. Attacks on garrisons, and a joint attack in April on an airbase that reduced several Government planes and helicopters to ashes, were causing serious damage and running rings around the Sudanese army.

Facing the prospect of its control over the entire country unravelling, in 2003 the Government decided to counterattack. Manipulating ethnic tensions that had flared up in Darfur around access to increasingly scarce land and water resources, they unleashed the Janjaweed to attack communities they claimed had links to the rebels.

Sources
Julie Flint and Alex de Waal, Darfur: a Short History of a Long War, Zed Books, 2005; Ruth Iyob and Gilbert M. Khadiagala, Sudan: The Elusive Quest for Peace, Lynne Rienner Publishers, 2006; Douglas H. Johnson, The Root Causes of Sudan’s Civil Wars, Indiana University Press, 2006; Gerard Prunier, Darfur: The Ambiguous Genocide, Cornell University Press, 2007; Wikipedia
 
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100 people everyday is a big number.
I havent heard about it in news.
Whats going on.
Is it full scale civil war. Oh god, is humanity in run to finish itself.
 
sudan had civil war since 1950s, U.S not advocating till after 9-11

they count starvation, illness and other number in

american killed millions in iraqi war by same standard

and all native americans and black slaves massacred are not human by their count :usflag:
 
I am waiting for a mature, seasoned moderate Muslim who can explain this situation.

All who are commenting can go onto the open Internet to see this intra-Muslim war in Darfur began just a few years ago since radicals started sticking their ugly heads up in the War on Terrorism worldwide. Efforts to avoid the facts of hate mongering and religious murder en masse are very foolish here.

The Internet site which gave the killed number of Americans in Vietnam War gave the stiuplation of dates for those KIA numbers.

I was on the Vietnam War Memorial Wall Design Planning Committee in the late 1970s in Washington, DC, and it is true that there are over 50,000 names on "The Wall" but the years to and from dates to count those numbers are different than the source data dates I copied here. The higher numbers in the 50,000+ range are correct, other numbers are unintentionally low due to different start and end dates of Vietnam War used.

Still waiting for a seasons, as in older, mature commentator to explain the Darfur War Muslims killing off Muslims numbers of over 400,000 killed. The operative word is killed, not starved nor otherwise died of other causes. Killed in cold blood.
 
I was on the Vietnam War Memorial Wall Design Planning Committee in the late 1970s in Washington, DC, and it is true that there are over 50,000 names on "The Wall" but the years to and from dates to count those numbers are different than the source data dates I copied here. The higher numbers in the 50,000+ range are correct, other numbers are unintentionally low due to different start and end dates of Vietnam War used.

Is there a reason you're only counting the US war casualties, and not the millions of innocent Vietnamese civilians who were killed as well?

Vietnamese are usually Buddhists, how does that fit in to your religious argument?
 
Now would we see the all mighty world police USA stepping in and saving those human?NO...... they aint important........ So no biggie....let em die.

After a few decades if they unfortunately find large reserves of oil......with a similiar dictatorship........then we will invade em to fight the evil and deliver true american style Democrazy!By bombin the shyt outta them!
 
I am dealing with the earliest origins of todays War on Terrorism as created and pushed by heretics who "claim" to be Muslims but who murder fellow Muslims who don't agree with their splinter group's radicalized, non-peaceful belief in and practice of Islam.

The Vietnam War has and had nothing to do with the War on Terrorism.
 
"Will a senior, seasoned, experienced hand, Moderator or Administrator explain to me why Muslims are again murdering each other in Darfur today, in 2011, in Africa?"

I am none of the above but maybe because they're human and fallible like any other?

But I do agree that some Muslims become menace when injustice is done to muslims by non-muslims, but never raise their voice against islamic oppressors who kill other Muslims, like in Darfur, which is basically a very primitive motivated conflict on the basis of the colour of the skin.
 
Al-Qaeda is like a plague, wherever it has layed foot, destruction and devastation have followed suit.
Somalia: Mogadishu used to be called the "White Pearl" of the Indian ocean and had the largest armed forces amongst all African nations.
Yemen: Is showing signs of differences between it's population with attacks on military becoming more frequent.
Afghanistan: Kabul used to be called the "Paris of Asia", now the whole country is a ruin.
Pakistan: Used to be called the "Land of Hospitality", now the most terrorized country in the world, more casualties as a result of terrorism than as compared to all countries combined after the post 9-11 world.
Similarly, Sudan has also been devastated as a result of Al-Qaeda's footprint.
 
"Will a senior, seasoned, experienced hand, Moderator or Administrator explain to me why Muslims are again murdering each other in Darfur today, in 2011, in Africa?"

I am none of the above but maybe because they're human and fallible like any other?

This would be my answer as well.
 
it only shows that religion is not a necessity for a country .....its the people who are more important
 
Now would we see the all mighty world police USA stepping in and saving those human?NO...... they aint important........ So no biggie....let em die.

After a few decades if they unfortunately find large reserves of oil......with a similiar dictatorship........then we will invade em to fight the evil and deliver true american style Democrazy!By bombin the shyt outta them!

isnt southern "oil rich"Sudan voting today for indepandance from Northern Sudan.:angel:

Looks like America did it again.................this time without even bombing a country:rofl:...............................atleast half of the country will have american style democracy :cheers::cheers:
 
5 Truths About Darfur - washingtonpost.com


there are estimate 60,000 people killed in Darfur war between sudan govenment army and rebel army, rebels are surported by chad and American intelligence. most countries refused to call it 'genocide' cos it's a civil war.

White House described Darfur as 'genocide' to please Christian right - Africa, World - The Independent


the real horrible Genocide happened in africa is Rwandan Genocide there are estimated 1,000,000 people been mass murdered. and they are mainly Christian.
 
I am waiting for a mature, seasoned moderate Muslim who can explain this situation.
I have a feeling that the only Muslim here that you'll consider a mature, seasoned moderate is one that 100% agrees with your views. Then, you'll use that a way to say even Muslims think blah, blah, blah.

Still waiting for a seasons, as in older, mature commentator to explain the Darfur War Muslims killing off Muslims numbers of over 400,000 killed. The operative word is killed, not starved nor otherwise died of other causes. Killed in cold blood.
How do you know they were killed in cold blood and of starvation? Source on this? Also, this war has been going on for 30 or so years. You didn't factor in the time scale.

Now, what do you say Muslim killing Muslim? Yes, both sides are Muslim. So? Do you think that matters? Do you think Hitler invaded Poland because they were the wrong type of Christianity? The way you say it, you act as if being Muslim has something to do with it.

As to why it's happening, read your own damn article. It says right in there. They are sick and tired of how the government treats. It's not rocket science.
 

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