CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[rcrmj]

It wouldn't be the first time that "officials", even higher-up engineers & researchers, have made bold claims. These should be taken with a grain of salt even if the personnel behind the technology have hard-earned credentials.

our EMALs is at least a generation ahead of U.S's thats what the people from the circle said````but I will take their words hundred times creditable than any of your "source" or convinent thoughts out there in the West.

I believe this is a fact as much as I believe we are 20 years behind the U.S in Turbofan technologies

 

[rcrmj]

Claiming that the Chinese EM catapult is more advanced than the US one would require access to the engineering documents and test data of both systems. Has it crossed anyone's mind how Chinese engineers managed to get their hands on the EMALS' blueprints or its test data?



Admiral Yin Zhuo did not explicitly say that the J-20 & FC-31 will definitely serve on PLAN carriers. And quite frankly the statement is more likely his own opinion rather than official confirmation of such.

better system redundancy, lower power comsumption, longer service life, better maintenance and U.S is still using Medium voltage AC technology for its EMALs, but we are already using Medium voltage DC technology for our EMALS````anyway U.S has started on DC EMALs, maybe will be available in 10 years time ?```why need detailed data, are we talking about reverse enginerring their EMALs?```nope, the end results can speak volum```besides, these people are serious scientist, not bragger working for news outlets```

since you dont know Chinese so I cant give you more infos``as my limited English stops me from explaining in detail

 

[Akasa]

better system redundancy, lower power comsumption, longer service life, better maintenance and U.S is still using Medium voltage AC technology for its EMALs, but we are already using Medium voltage DC technology for our EMALS````anyway U.S has started on DC EMALs, maybe will be available in 10 years time ?```why need detailed data, are we talking about reverse enginerring their EMALs?```nope, the end results can speak volum```besides, these people are serious scientist, not bragger working for news outlets```

since you dont know Chinese so I cant give you more infos``as my limited English stops me from explaining in detail

It's a bit bold to make such claims based on the usage of AC or DC alone. The main advantage of DC current, as explained by Prof. Ma, is additional power. The other alleged advantages you mentioned cannot be fully assessed against the US system unless the PLAN gets ahold of test data to do a proper comparison.

I suggest that you take these claims with a grain of salt until the PLAN starts launching FC-31s (or whatever) off these catapults on a frequent basis.

 

[rcrmj]

I think construction of the various modules began quite a long time ago. At this point, the EM catapult is mature enough and awaiting installation on the new CATOBAR carrier. I personally think we will be seeing signs of assembly by next year, assuming that there are no further delays in the EM vs Steam catapult competition.


Yin Zhuo might not be reliable himself but the essence of his statement is true. At this point, whoever wins the navalized J-20 or FC-31 tender will be the next carrier aircraft. Having both FC-31 and J-20 navalized and placed on a carrier would be near impossible given resource allocation/development cycle.

those TV commentators dont know everything, they might know a bit of their field of expertise respectively, but I know it is 100% sure is that they are not from any of "the" institutions' labs`````so a layman's theory regarding our 4th gen AC stealth fighter would be an offspring from either J-20 or FC-31````however, real matter wont always seem linear or simple````

It's a bit bold to make such claims based on the usage of AC or DC alone. The main advantage of DC current, as explained by Prof. Ma, is additional power. The other alleged advantages you mentioned cannot be fully assessed against the US system unless the PLAN gets ahold of test data to do a proper comparison.

I suggest that you take these claims with a grain of salt until the PLAN starts launching FC-31s (or whatever) off these catapults on a frequent basis.

end results, again, end results```U.S has just started on DC EMALs, ```better system redundancy, lower power comsumption, longer service life, better maintenance```what more do you want?

I suggest that you take these claims with a grain of salt until the PLAN starts launching FC-31s (or whatever) off these catapults on a frequent basis.

i strongly advise you to take your convinent thoughts as a grain of salt, as clearly most of your "questions" just dont make any sense, and to me you appear to be like those who has no source of getting real stuff from China's defense field.

 

[Akasa]

those TV commentators dont know everything, they might know a bit of their field of expertise respectively, but I know it is 100% sure is that they are not from any of "the" institutions' labs`````so a layman's theory regarding our 4th gen AC stealth fighter would be an offspring from either J-20 or FC-31````however, real matter wont always seem linear or simple````

It makes the most sense to develop a naval fighter from an existing platform.

end results, again, end results```U.S has just started on DC EMALs, ```better system redundancy, lower power comsumption, longer service life, better maintenance```what more do you want?

So, in other words, we're completely reliant on Prof. Ma's claim that DC current alone brings all of the listed advantages to the Chinese system. It's better to wait and see.

 

[hirobo2]

SinoSoldier, let me give you a bit of advice. Chinese are obsessed with being #1 under heaven. All those opinions you publicly display seem to suggest China is satisfied with being #2...

 

[Deino]

Guys, we have a dedicated thread for the PLAN's future naval fighter ... please continue there.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/j-xy-next-generation-carrier-borne-fighter.518751/

Deino

 

[clarkgap]

SinoSoldier, let me give you a bit of advice. Chinese are obsessed with being #1 under heaven. All those opinions you publicly display seem to suggest China is satisfied with being #2...

I believed Chinese are obsessed with being #3.

 

[Figaro]

I believed Chinese are obsessed with being #3.

Why would the Chinese or any major power be obsessed with being #2 or #3??? All great powers strive to be number one ... and China definitely is no exception . That doesn’t necessarily mean that they will become number one, but sure they will try!

 

[Deino]

I think the last post were simply sarcastic !

 

[52051]

Why would the Chinese or any major power be obsessed with being #2 or #3??? All great powers strive to be number one ... and China definitely is no exception . That doesn’t necessarily mean that they will become number one, but sure they will try!

He simply refer to a very old joke in China claiming China love to beat the 3rd strongest nation in the world back in the cold war days (means self-proclaimed regional powers who have the mouth but not the muscle).

 

[rcrmj]

LATEST````some suppliers have already recieved orders```````hail EMALs``the coming years will be very exciting !!

 

[Akasa]

LATEST````some suppliers have already recieved orders```````hail EMALs``the coming years will be very exciting !!

Any news on the PLAN carrier-based 5th generation fighter? What are the FC-31's (or a derivative's) prospects?

 

[rcrmj]

Any news on the PLAN carrier-based 5th generation fighter? What are the FC-31's (or a derivative's) prospects?

dont know, probably will be later than AC based AWACs or even J-15S````

 

[Akasa]

dont know, probably will be later than AC based AWACs or even J-15S````

Interesting that you brought up J-15S & KJ-600.

Hasn't the J-15S been canceled, and when is the J-15B finally going to debut?