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[Nilgiri]

Let me know if you can read with some helps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansk..._leaf_manuscipt,_Late_Gupta_script,_Nepal.jpg

Why go with gupta script? Why not even earlier to (first one) Brahmi?

I am talking about final script (devanagari). It is exact one used for most of Indias languages today. But sure, its dad was gupta script you can say, it should be average readable to most that know devanagari with little extra training. Understanding might be hard though.

You want me to post hieroglyph characters of earliest Chinese? See which ones you can read?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone_script

You are actually asking the wrong person anyway to try make your point. I can read lot of the (older than devanagari) scripts. Which part of this gupta script you want me to read?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

This bromance of yours, sir.

haha u leave that to me sunshine!

U will face severe consequences if u wont fall in line!!!! Trust me! u want to know whats being planned up there for u!

Let me remind u! Taliban have won! Now nuclear Suicide Bombing shall commence to eradicate Europe and North America!

And u dont want to come in the way!!!!!! Thats about to happen, is far far supreme then Grey Rhino or Black Swan, and yr little country where u write Karim as Careem and end up selling that to Uber too, mustn't come in the way!

Yr too small and too cute for this shit! but yr silly decisions r distracting us! We want u to reverse it as soon as u can!

If want money, we can give u in a far greater way through Chinese investments into yr countries then these Westerners will ever like to give u! if want something else we can give u.....

But doing things like this, allowing females to marry non muslims and face veil bans will not solve yr real problems! thats not how u do things! This is like reversing the evolution itself! If u want to learn techniques to do surveillance or learn counter terrorism come here meet us, we will tell u better battle tested and proven safe methods! Doing these silly things will allow DAESH to flourish further in North Africa!

And these DAESH aint Taliban, some bunch of shepherds and farmers fighting for the freedom of their country, They r a bunch of opportunistic scavengers! and they r brutal! they r khawarij, They will even play with yr dead bodies too that is AFTER them killing u!

Think about it! and start using yr brains over there in Tunisia!

@HannibalBarca DAESH will want some publicity for themselves now that Taliban have won and whole World inviting them to their Capitals! And for that DAESH will use North Africa as a steeping stone for attacks in Europe, and yes nuclear ones! be aware!

 

[war&peace]

This what???

Stop teasing him. I guess you got the wrong guy.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Stop teasing him. I guess you got the wrong guy.

dramay kar raha ha!

 

[war&peace]

dramay kar raha ha!

May be.. I don't know the history of discussion between you guys

 

[vi-va]

Why go with gupta script? Why not even earlier to (first one) Brahmi?

I am talking about final script (devanagari). It is exact one used for most of Indias languages today. But sure, its dad was gupta script you can say, it should be average readable to most that know devanagari with little extra training. Understanding might be hard though.

You want me to post hieroglyph characters of earliest Chinese? See which ones you can read?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone_script

You are actually asking the wrong person anyway to try make your point. I can read lot of the (older than devanagari) scripts. Which part of this gupta script you want me to read?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone_script is not the script ancient Chinese used. Not in Shang Dynasty, not in Zhou dynasty, not in Qin Dynasty.

When we talked about ancient Chinese script, we talked about script used in Qin dynasty, Chinese unified writing since then. First Emperor of Qin, yes, he call himself the first emperor, unified China and many the other things which still used today.

You should ask me 小篆
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_seal_script#/media/File:XiaozhuanQinquan.jpg

It's a bit hard, but I can read with some help. After recognize the characters, I can get the meaning.

The Chinese writing system is seperated from oral system, which is very stable. Little changed in past thousands years.

 

[Nilgiri]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone_script is not the script ancient Chinese used. Not in Shang Dynasty, not in Zhou dynasty, not in Qin Dynasty.

When we talked about ancient Chinese script, we talked about script used in Qin dynasty, Chinese unified writing since then. First Emperor of Qin, yes, he call himself the first emperor, unified China and many the other things which still used today.

You should ask me 小篆
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_seal_script#/media/File:XiaozhuanQinquan.jpg

It's a bit hard, but I can read with some help. After recognize the characters, I can get the meaning.

The Chinese writing system is seperated from oral system, which is very stable. Little changed in past thousands years.

Well the devanagari script for sanskrit + indian language use today....is developed (and stable) for about 1500 - 2000 years. Most Indians (that use this script for day to day for own language) would be able to read Sanskrit (since this is the official final sanctified script for Sanskrit) Their understanding would be variable (it needs learning and training) since (spoken) languages today are different to Sanskrit (kind of similar to putonghua, guangdonghua, shanghai, hakka, fuzhou, hokkien etc)...or like Latin compare to Italian....or classic greek compare to modern greek etc.

I just wanted to give you example that going too early means you generally can't read any language (unless you specifically learned the earliest scripts used for it), even though the early form of the language was written that way.

It was interesting to read your post.

 

[vi-va]

Well the devanagari script for sanskrit + indian language use today....is developed (and stable) for about 1500 - 2000 years. Most Indians (that use this script for day to day for own language) would be able to read Sanskrit (since this is the official final sanctified script for Sanskrit) Their understanding would be variable (it needs learning and training) since (spoken) languages today are different to Sanskrit (kind of similar to putonghua, guangdonghua, shanghai, hakka, fuzhou, hokkien etc)...or like Latin compare to Italian....or classic greek compare to modern greek etc.

I just wanted to give you example that going too early means you generally can't read any language (unless you specifically learned the earliest scripts used for it), even though the early form of the language was written that way.

It was interesting to read your post.

Thanks for your explanation. How much the Ancient India language and culture heritage influenced the language and culture today? I knew the invasion from the west, and conquest by Muslim. How much left?

The difference between China culture and language with Indian is, Chinese characters has little to do with how your pronounce it. The oral Chinese pronunciation varies in different part of China, the grammar is different in some part of China, the tones are different, the wording may be different.

But but the Classical Chinese is official written language which unified by Qin Shi Huang, it's consistent across China, the grammar is consistent, the wording is consistent. It's like the sacred language, like Latin of Bible, Hebrew of Hebrew Bible.

But but Classical Chinese is much more widely used in China, literature, historical books, poems, drama, and everything worth written down.

The phenomenon that written language separated from oral language, gave Chinese significant advantage to unify China. No matter where the people comes from, they can communicate by Classical Chinese, like the English today in the world, China by then is the world for them.

All other Logogram languages dead, there is no other language like Chinese. Our culture thus preserved under huge pressure from northern nomad(Xiongnu,Turks, Mongol, many others) in thousands of years.

 

[casual]

interesting

 

[Nilgiri]

Thanks for your explanation. How much the Ancient India language and culture heritage influenced the language and culture today? I knew the invasion from the west, and conquest by Muslim. How much left?

The difference between China culture and language with Indian is, Chinese characters has little to do with how your pronounce it. The oral Chinese pronunciation varies in different part of China, the grammar is different in some part of China, the tones are different, the wording may be different.

But but the Classical Chinese is official written language which unified by Qin Shi Huang, it's consistent across China, the grammar is consistent, the wording is consistent. It's like the sacred language, like Latin of Bible, Hebrew of Hebrew Bible.

But but Classical Chinese is much more widely used in China, literature, historical books, poems, drama, and everything worth written down.

The phenomenon that written language separated from oral language, gave Chinese significant advantage to unify China. No matter where the people comes from, they can communicate by Classical Chinese, like the English today in the world, China by then is the world for them.

All other Logogram languages dead, there is no other language like Chinese. Our culture thus preserved under huge pressure from northern nomad(Xiongnu,Turks, Mongol, many others) in thousands of years.

Yes I am aware of this....I speak fair amount of Cantonese having grown up in HK....and I am learning to read/write (Chinese characters) now in spare time....and learning Mandarin too....because its all increasingly useful.

Part of why I left the reading/writing for later in life is because of its sheer difference to alphabet/sounding-letters languages.

As for question on Ancient India etc, how much survive to this day...that is very long topic to discuss. Maybe some other time.

 

[vi-va]

Yes I am aware of this....I speak fair amount of Cantonese having grown up in HK....and I am learning to read/write (Chinese characters) now in spare time....and learning Mandarin too....because its all increasingly useful.

Part of why I left the reading/writing for later in life is because of its sheer difference to alphabet/sounding-letters languages.

As for question on Ancient India etc, how much survive to this day...that is very long topic to discuss. Maybe some other time.

Nice to meet you here.