Chinese orienteering team disqualified at World Military Games for cheating

[Trango Towers]

In the e sports community as well, Chinese are pretty, pretty well known for cheating and using unfair means to get ahead, so shocker? No.

It's a cultural thing.

Not just the chinese is it?

 

[BL33D]

It's the same thing. Can't pick and choose.

Chinese are upright and moral. We have some of the lowest crime rates both domestically and as diaspora abroad. Where is the evidence?

I dont doubt that. In comparison to the heinous crimes in west, China is way better, Korea and Japan are the best and safest places though. But thats not the point. Its about keeping the spirit of sports alive. A lot of reports of drug abuse and blood transfusion in Russia and China comes out which doesnt put a pretty picture. The west might be doing too, maybe they hide well.
But China, a nation already pretty great at every sport doesnt need to do this and should discourage such mentality because it put a bad image and doubt on its previous glories and achievements. You guys already win so many olympic medals in variety of sports. Thats it. Otherwise respect for Chinese athletes, I am an avid watcher of badminton and table tennis and Chinese dominate in many categories in it. Chen Long, Lin Dan, Xu xin and Ma long.

 

[Paul2]

You can't fix those people.

 

[Lincoln]

Not just the chinese is it?

Mostly the Chinese. This isn't really a bias. You can ask any gaming community that is community and multiplayer based.

Chinese generally use every possible means to get ahead the most. Russians are on the other hand known for finding ways of making the most money through a game through real trade which is often illegal in them since virtual property is owned by the company.

It's the same thing. Can't pick and choose.

Chinese are upright and moral. We have some of the lowest crime rates both domestically and as diaspora abroad. Where is the evidence?

Uptight and moral by law. I am going off personal experience. If you visit forums, you will find a similar opinion supported, it's a general thing.

 

[Trango Towers]

Mostly the Chinese. This isn't really a bias. You can ask any gaming community that is community and multiplayer based.

Chinese generally use every possible means to get ahead the most. Russians are on the other hand known for finding ways of making the most money through a game through real trade which is often illegal in them since virtual property is owned by the company.



Uptight and moral by law. I am going off personal experience. If you visit forums, you will find a similar opinion supported, it's a general thing.

Look..americans cheat. Ben johnson. Flo jo etc. I could go on alla day. Russian women who look.like men. Chinese yes ofcourse.
My point is anyone that gets the chance cheats

 

[KungFuLee]

That is indeed the lesson. Historically losers have been ground into dust. Don't want to be ground into dust? Get good, get big, nothing is off limits.

If Jared Ha fought fair against this aggressive criminal, he'd be braindead or on life support. Instead he almost killed the aggressor and now the aggressor shits into a bag.

In 1991 Iraqi troops left Kuwait in accordance with UN Resolution 660, unilaterally withdrawing to pre-war positions.

They were no threat to coalition forces and they had obeyed the UN resolutions.

Coalition forces blocked them off during their withdrawal, shot the first and last vehicles to prevent escape, then carpet bombed them.

I am not sure how you get to the conclusion the Iraqi is compliance to Resolution 660? When they withdraw from Kuwait in Feb 1991, when the resolution 660 is voided when the Iraqi refused to leave by 2nd August 1990 deadline.

You cannot comply to a resolution you broke in the first place, you can't "re-obey" after you have lost the war from violating the same law you "now" obey.

Don't get me wrong, what the Coalition did, if true, were wrong, but quoting Resolution 660 is not right in this case, because it was the Iraqi who broke the resolution in the first place. You can argue Geneva convention (third Geneva Convention to be exact) if the Iraqi force has surrendered, but if they simply reposition themselves via a tactical withdrawal, those force would still be fair game by international law of war. And we don't know if they did surrender, the US argue they didn't officially surrender, the Iraqi claim they are out of a fight.

 

[lonelyman]

Chinese team has been disqualified in disgrace at the 2019 Military World Games in the Hubei capital of Wuhan after cheating at the sport of orienteering.

Orienteering involves using a topographical map and a compass to navigate from point to point as fast as you can in diverse and typically unfamiliar terrain. In the Middle Distance competition on Sunday, Chinese runners finished in first, second, and fourth place among women and second among men.

This impressive result was quickly thrown into question, however, when a protest was filed by the national teams from Austria, Belgium, France, Poland, Switzerland, and Russia.

According to the International Orienteering Federation (IOF), it was discovered and proven that Chinese runners had “received illegal assistance both by spectators in the terrain, markings and small paths prepared for them and which only they were aware of.”

Other rumors have alleged that the Chinese team even ran the course ahead of time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1185848379563229184

The Chinese woman who came in first, Li Meizhen, started orienteering late last year, according to a state media article that describes her struggles with using and understanding a map.

“One’s life may not be a victory, and I just don’t want to lose,” Li is quoted as saying. “Orienteering resembles life which is always with fatigue and hope, difficulty and surprise.”

The jury ruled to disqualify all Chinese runners from the event and not allow them to compete in the Long Distance or final relay competitions.

Though the Chinese team appealed this ruling to the Military World Games, the decision was upheld.

The IOF is actually hosting its World Cup later this month in Guangzhou. In case you’re worried about the sanctity of the sport of orienteering, here’s a statement regarding the Wuhan incident from the organization:

The Military World Games is an event organised under the jurisdiction of the International Military Sports Council (CISM) but through a Memorandum of Understanding with IOF, the IOF rules govern the conduct of the event. The IOF takes the actions of the Chinese team very seriously and is pleased to see that the IOF rules regarding the fairness of competition were enforced by the jury and CISM and that the best solution was found for those athletes who compete within the regulations of the sport. The IOF will be investigating together with CISM how sanctions may be applied to those involved in the improper activities.

Although the event is not an IOF event, the IOF is investigating if any further actions need to be taken to guarantee the fairness of competition at the upcoming World Cup final in Guangzhou, China October 25-29. Military and civilian orienteering in China are completely separated organisationally and the World Cup has been controlled within the structure of the IOF with restrictions on the access to competition information. There is also time to make changes to stop similar types of cheating. However, The IOF will be debriefing the CISM controllers and making further investigations into the nature of the infractions. If verifiable evidence of any improprieties are found the IOF will apply any sanctions necessary to guarantee the fairness of the competitions at the World Cup.

The IOF Council will be meeting in connection with the World Cup final and will as part of the agenda discuss how the negative activities at the Military World Games may affect the IOFs support to developing Chinese orienteering and also the Memorandum of Understanding with CISM.

Finally, the IOF wishes to show its appreciation to the clean athletes and congratulate the medal winners of the Long Distance at the Military World Games 2019.

https://shanghai.ist/2019/10/23/chi...alified-at-world-military-games-for-cheating/

Regrettable act, sadly it's human nature and don't pick on China. Western sports full of cheating, just google. Cyclist champion Armstrong doping, Australia swimming team doping, tip of the iceberg.

 

[Lincoln]

Look..americans cheat. Ben johnson. Flo jo etc. I could go on alla day. Russian women who look.like men. Chinese yes ofcourse.
My point is anyone that gets the chance cheats

Yes, everyone from any nationality cheats. I am just saying it's a lot more profound in the Chinese.

 

[Trango Towers]

Yes, everyone from any nationality cheats. I am just saying it's a lot more profound in the Chinese.

My dear they all do it. Who ever gets the opportunity. And its nit just restricted to sports

 

[Suika]

"Everyone cheats"

Which is why big government is bad because all governments are made of cheaters.

PRC government has more surveillance and control than most others.

Never trust cheating robot chicoms.

Would have been better if they cheated in Oliympics than what was supposed to be a friendly sports competition between the world militaries.

 

[MM_Haider]

Hahaha.. Really?
You're one brainwashed boo boo. Lmao...
Not sure if you're sarcastic or serious. If you're serious, I pity your brain cells.

you should get yourself checked up in a mental hospital immediately .. i am working with Chinese contractors and i know bribe and dishonesty is their hallmark..

 

[FedererExpress]

China doesn’t just cheat at sports. They cheat at everything. Remember the number of doping cheats from China in swimming during the 1990’s?So many got caught doping. We respected Sun Yang and thought he was legit until he was banned for doping. They are such an immoral and unethical country.

Rampant Chinese cheating exposed at the Boston marathon:
https://supchina.com/2019/04/21/rampant-chinese-cheating-exposed-at-the-boston-marathon/

 

[nature is]

Mostly the Chinese. This isn't really a bias. You can ask any gaming community that is community and multiplayer based.

Chinese generally use every possible means to get ahead the most. Russians are on the other hand known for finding ways of making the most money through a game through real trade which is often illegal in them since virtual property is owned by the company.

Uptight and moral by law. I am going off personal experience. If you visit forums, you will find a similar opinion supported, it's a general thing.

Ask any gaming community, most cheating cases are from South Asia, your's dearly India.
India consistently ranked among the top doping nations too.


After forsaken, another Indian CS:GO player has been caught cheating at the ESL Starter Cup
https://www.foxsportsasia.com/esports/csgo/1012301/after-forsaken-another-indian-cs-go-player-caught-cheating-at-esl-starter-cup/


Clash Royale player Jimit Bhatt banned for cheating
https://luckbox.com/esports-news/article/jimit-bhatt-clash-royale-banned


OpTic India disqualified after forsaken found cheating
https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/25026623/optic-india-disqualified-forsaken-found-cheating


Just not cricket? A history of cheating claims against Pakistan
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/aug/29/pakistan-cricket-cheating-allegations



India ranked 3rd for third year in row in WADA doping charts
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/more-sports/athletics/India-ranked-3rd-for-third-year-in-row-in-WADA-doping-charts/articleshow/58004796.cms

 

[Lincoln]

Ask any gaming community, most cheating cases are from South Asia, your's dearly India.
India consistently ranked among the top doping nations too.


After forsaken, another Indian CS:GO player has been caught cheating at the ESL Starter Cup
https://www.foxsportsasia.com/esports/csgo/1012301/after-forsaken-another-indian-cs-go-player-caught-cheating-at-esl-starter-cup/


Clash Royale player Jimit Bhatt banned for cheating
https://luckbox.com/esports-news/article/jimit-bhatt-clash-royale-banned


OpTic India disqualified after forsaken found cheating
https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/25026623/optic-india-disqualified-forsaken-found-cheating


Just not cricket? A history of cheating claims against Pakistan
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/aug/29/pakistan-cricket-cheating-allegations



India ranked 3rd for third year in row in WADA doping charts
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/more-sports/athletics/India-ranked-3rd-for-third-year-in-row-in-WADA-doping-charts/articleshow/58004796.cms

I am not a gamer. But the communities from which I have heard is MMO communities.

Indians and South Asians don't even have a presence in e sports. So extremely isolated incidents.

For reference in one of the MMOs, an entire server was made devoted to Chinese which got destroyed due to game destroying mechanics and cheating, they moved into the global server and came the culture with them of cheating, many people complained, many bans, and behind the scenes selling and buying for real money.

Ask in any gaming community. Russians and Chinese are well known for this. I don't know the reason, frankly I am not interested. South Asians though don't have a presence, I know for a fact most would say they didn't even know Indians or Pakistanis play e sports games (mostly because they don't.)

 

[Chanakyaa]

And these Guys.. think of winning a War ??