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Chinese leader reveals Mao persecuted his family

I dont support Zhao's policy when it comes to 1989 roit. and i surely believe that the harsh crackdown on that movement was absolutely neccesary.and Dengxiaoping was right to bring the country back from the brink of anarchy,thank God.what I mean is we should give Zhao an objective assessment,all those who did their part for the Chinese nation should deserve some credit,it is not right to deny the contribution they made to the country just because they made some mistakes.

I dont mean Jiang is terrible either,I just say that he is very unpopular in China,he can be termed as a mediocre leader.people dont like him for a reason,but here we dont have to dwell on that part.
 
Zhao and Jiang were all chessmen had been played by Deng.Zhao incidentally showing his weakness and Jiang accidentally being at a right place(Shanghai)and even Hu Jintao(in Tibet at that time)far away from political storm.
 
there are tons of jokes and funny video clips about Jiang in China,making fun of him became most popular national pastime in China,why,there must be a reason,he did sometimes,in some occasions, behave not very smart,haha
 
Zhao and Jiang were all chessmen had been played by Deng.Zhao incidentally showing his weakness and Jiang accidentally being at a right place(Shanghai)and even Hu Jintao(in Tibet at that time)far away from political storm.

Jiang was promoted by Zhao to the post of Shanghai mayor.
 
Chinese leader reveals Mao persecuted his family
Malcolm Moore
November 4, 2011
CHINESE Premier Wen Jiabao has revealed how his family was ''constantly persecuted'' during the darkest years of Chairman Mao's rule, in a speech that may be a warning to the hardline faction within the Communist Party not to repeat the mistakes of history.

The speech, delivered in front of students at Mr Wen's alma mater, the Nankai high school in Tianjin, recalled the paranoia and fear of life in China at the end of the 1950s as a deeply divided Communist Party hunted down its opponents.

''I was born into an intellectual family in Yixing, north Tianjin in 1942. My grandfather ran a school in the village. It was the first primary school to admit girls, against pressure from the local landlords. Many of the teachers were university graduates and some became professors after 1949,'' said Mr Wen.

According to a transcript published in China's official state media, Mr Wen said he had carried his grandfather's body to hospital.''He died of a cerebral haemorrhage in 1960. The school he taught at had kept his files, filled with one self-criticism after another, written in small neat characters,'' he said. At the time, the Communist Party had forced intellectuals to ''revise their thinking'' through self-criticism until they became ideologically sound.

After inviting them to speak out about China's problems, Mao performed an about-turn and attacked those who were bold enough to voice their opinions publicly.

''After I went to high school and university, my family suffered constant attacks in the successive political campaigns,'' he said.''In 1960, my father was also investigated for so-called 'historical problems'. He could no longer teach and was sent to work on a farm on the outskirts of the city tending pigs. My father was an honest man, hard-working and diligent throughout his life.''

China's top leaders rarely discuss their personal history or family lives. The attacks by Mao on 550,000 intellectuals at the end of the 1950s remain a strictly censored topic.

The attacks on Mr Wen's family came at a time when the party under Mao was split internally over how to set a path for the country, with liberal and hardline factions taking opposing views. In the end, liberal forces lost.''My childhood was spent in war and hardship. The poverty, turmoil and famine left an indelible imprint on my young soul … I realised only science, truth-seeking, democracy and hard work can save China,'' Mr Wen said.

As the 69-year-old gets ready to step down next year he has made a flurry of speeches calling for ''urgent'' political reform and the loosening of the party's iron grip on the state. However, there is little sign that reform is forthcoming. Some have suggested that Mr Wen is merely trying to paint himself on the right side of history, while others have noted that he lacks a broad enough power base within the party to effect any change.


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we are very lucky that we dont live under Mao's reign,He cared nothing about human lives,in order to achieve his goal both for the government and for himself personally,millions lives like you and me are just expendable.that's totally against the principles of humanity.
That's clearly wrong. Mao was not born into an aristocracy like some kind of emperor. He was a revolutionary.... he willingly became an expendable pawn because he believed in the revolution. Once he was on top, he did not turn PRC into a hereditary dynasty like Kim Il Song. He sacrificed his eldest son in Korea before calling on others to do the same.

You used Late Qing and KMT era as a measurement of Mao's economic success? No wonder you guys are damn fools and mocked as such. Those periods were filled with civil disorder, internal war and foreign invasion. Even if you put a rock as top of the government in a relatively peaceful environment you can get better results. Why don't you use economic development in other Asian countries such as Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan as measure? I'll tell you why, because Mao lovers can only find comfort in the fact that there are worse out there, never able to look to the better.
Err.... because KMT and late Qing were the immediate predecessors of Mao's China? That's why this is the correct comparison, not comparing to Japan, South Korea or Taiwan. Those western imperial pawns have advantages because western powers can quickly build up your infrastructure. Late Qing railway was built was western assistance as was every other project during KMT era. But western powers do not do this out of generosity. You need to accept their domination and exploitation agenda too. Otherwise you get impaled thorough the rectum like Gaddafi!

Of course, how could anyone mention Mao's reign without mentioning the mass starvation that killed millions because of his failed economic policy.
LOL.... that is not credible at all. Western propaganda loves to bash Mao. All we know is that in the countryside, where the alleged disaster took place, people still love Mao. Go figure.

Education around the country suffered, and that strong military you trumpeted so much was unfit for combat due to lack of proper training/equipment, instead focused on political indoctrination.
And that's why Mao lost all his wars against the superior armed KMT, the far superior armed US forces, and the far superior and more numerous Soviet Union. You know what? The PLA was so backward, Mao never developed the nuclear fusion bomb!

If you enjoyed being ruled by a dictactor that sends his Red Guard minions to whack you if you showed the slightest hint of dissent, you will love Mao's era. If you enjoy starving and having to live with food rationing, you will love Mao. If you enjoy having a military that lacked proper training and equipment, you will love Mao. If you enjoy having your education disrupted and sent to the countryside to keep the population systematically stupid, you will most definitely love Mao.
See that's what separates amaturish analysis from serious intellectual thought. You are imagining a bunch of middle class folks today going back and living in Mao's era. Well of course that would be a hard life.

You fail to really put yourself into the circumstances of the era. Mao's people were not middle class. They are the poorest of the poor from a war-torn country without central authority for 100 years. What they needed was discipline, direction and something to eat. Mao gave them that. They don't need higher education and academic liberalism.

By blaming Mao for the state that China was in in 1949, you are falling right into the trap of western imperialists who hate such a successful anti-western revolutionary leader like Mao. But hey you're an ethnic Chinese choosing to live in Canada so it's not surprising where your politics will stand.

It will be a repeat of the century of humiliation.

If you are rich but you can't defend yourself, then others will exploit you.
And that's exactly why many countries are swarming around China hoping to get a piece of the pie. Even the Indians are hilariously openly talking on PDF about how they will conquer parts of China when China is in a total war against western powers.

Although I generally have sympathy for the leftists, I'm worried about the recent revisionist history of cultural revolution endorsed by the far left. The common ground for the unity within the communist party in the last 30 years was the conviction the cultural revolution was a disaster and it should never be repeated again. If this common ground is to be lost I really dread what's coming next.
It's time to clean out the corruption, so-called "naked officials" fleeing to western countries. That's what. Just like 1945-1949. (Okay not as crazy. We'll use rule of law.)
 
That's clearly wrong. Mao was not born into an aristocracy like some kind of emperor. He was a revolutionary.... he willingly became an expendable pawn because he believed in the revolution. Once he was on top, he did not turn PRC into a hereditary dynasty like Kim Il Song. He sacrificed his eldest son in Korea before calling on others to do the same.

He run the country exactly like a Chinese dynasty and what stopped him from passing the throne to his son was the fact that his only sane son was killed in Korean war,an accident saved Chinese nation.if only his son survived,China would be exactly like North Korea.

He totally destroyed China's economy and slowed down China's development for at least 20 years,if not for him,China's economy would've been on par with Japan ,South Korea ,Taiwan,Hongkong,Singapore in the 1980s,or even better.
 
^ That is total garbage spewing without a shred of evidence. You might as well have copied directly from standard western propaganda. How exactly did he run the country like a Chinese dynasty? Did Chiang Kai Shek run the country like a Chinese dynasty too given that he passed the "presidency" to his son?

Without Mao, China would be just like India. A lot of peasants living in slums, small aristocracy own all the land who purchase lots of imported luxury goods and everybody is indoctrinated to worship western powers and western culture. Except unlike India, China was right next to Soviet Union so the US would be using China as the front line cannon fodder against Soviet Union.

In fact, the above description is exactly the direction the pro-western leaders like Hu and Wen have been taking the country intentionally or not over the past 10 years. I'm glad Xi Jinping is here to take the country back from too many "foreign educated experts" whose life goal is to emigrate overseas and whose loyalties do not ultimately lie with China. If Bo Xilai becomes premier too, that would be even better.

Like Tractor said, only the former landed aristocracy was really hurt in the cultural revolution. It was irrelevant to the common people. Today, it's disproportionately the wealthy, foreign influenced people who want another 10 years of Hu / Wen policies and are afraid of people like Xi Jinping and Bo Xilai.

The common people are fed up with corruption and want party discipline. They don't want to hear more huyou BS about how this "opening up and reform" is good for China economically and how the wealth will eventually trickle down to the common people. They don't want to hear huyou BS about how bad Mao was because they are old enough to remember that Mao's days weren't bad as long as you're not from a landlord family.

Have you heard of the debate between the Guangdong model (i.e. rampant undisciplined capitalism) and the Chongqing model (i.e. equality first)? Well, it looks like that debate is finished because the Guangdong province chief Huang Hua Hua resigned a few days ago. I wonder what the story is behind that.
 
It's water under the bridge now,let's agree to disagree.history and Chinese people will give the final judgement in the end.for now,what we need is to unite and build up the country.
 
Talking about Mao, I am wondering when CCP would bury his body.

Without Guangdong Model, Chongqing would have to wait for another decade to boom like this. And the debate between them is political rather than economic.
 
Chairman mao had his flaws But I thank god we had someone like him to finally to stand up to the corrupt chiang kai shek, my Great grandparents and Grand parents worked for the corrupt landlords allied to chiang they barely had enough to survive off of, No mao no unified china today he had his flaws yes very big flaws however he is the reason china is here today.
Yes, Chiang Kai-shek was bad. However, in attempting to re-invent China Mao became a much worse monster and passing diseases to young girls was the least of it: tens of millions dead and the creative and productive potential of the Chinese people forcibly suppressed for decades. (Where would China be today if Deng's reforms came in 1952 rather than 1978?)

Despite his second attempt of the Cultural Revolution in the end Mao knew he had failed. As he told U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger: "I haven't been able to change [China]. I've only been able to change a few places in the vicinity of Beijing."
 

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