Chinese government, nervous about comparisons between Tahrir and Tiananmen

[Brotherhood]

U ppl those who r supporting China are currently staying in Japan or HK.
U ppl enjoy all kinds of freedom there coz they r democratic countries

I can access each and every website available.
Can u Chinese do that ??

But we can all have the access to some basic "human right" like "sanitation facilities" meanwhile a so-called democratic country having trouble for over 600 million of its people lacking such....

When a so-called democratic regime that failed to feed her people properly which end up "top the world hunger chart" on a yearly basis and children have to learn to "eat mud" to fight hunger, what kind of democracy is that?

 

[below_freezing]

When the people fear their government , there is tyranny; when the government fears the people , there is liberty .-
Thomas Jefferson

correct. the chinese government is calm on the surface but fears the people like hell. that's why it's talking about stability, trying to control housing prices, lower inflation, increasing minimum wage and has free elections. because it knows 水能推舟亦能覆舟 - water can sail the boat, but it can also turn the boat.

the indian government talk about fearing the people but in reality don't give a sh*t. the indian government obviously don't give a sh*t about 2 million citizens dying per year, huge corruption and swis bank accounts worth more than GDP.

 

[below_freezing]

But we can all have the access to some basic "human right" like "sanitation facilities" meanwhile a so-called democratic country having trouble for over 600 million of its people lacking such....

When a so-called democratic regime that failed to feed her people properly which end up "top the world hunger chart" on a yearly basis and children have to learn to "eat mud" to fight hunger, what kind of democracy is that?

we are far more democratic than india is. Our election system actually filters out the worst mafia criminals while india's system makes it so mafia criminals are guarenteed to win.

 

[Brotherhood]

When the people fear their government , there is tyranny; when the government fears the people , there is liberty .-
Thomas Jefferson

“A hungry man is not a free man.” Adlai E. Stevenson quotes

Truth isn't always beauty, but the hunger for it is.”
Nadine Gordimer quotes

“Hunger knows no friend but its feeder.” Aristophanes quotes

 

[The_Assassin]

Why is it that the Pakistanis and Chinese on this forum have a tendency of discussing India in each and every thread. The thread is about comparison between Tahrir and Tiananmen square. It's not about Tiananmen and New Delhi. And even though we know that as far as Chinese on this forum are concerned, nothing happened on Tiananmen square in 1989. Still guys the outside world can access a photograph of a men facing a tank roaring towards him. and although we don't know about his fate, still we will continue to support such people while you guys keep on ranting about deficiencies about the Indian democratic system.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

“A hungry man is not a free man.” Adlai E. Stevenson quotes

Truth isn't always beauty, but the hunger for it is.”
Nadine Gordimer quotes

“Hunger knows no friend but its feeder.” Aristophanes quotes

We have told you bluntly, Mr President , what the demands of the people are ... We have one prime and essential need: our dignity. But there is no dignity without freedom . .. We prefer freedom in poverty to opulence in slavery ."
Ahmed Sékou Touré' s statement to General De Gaulle during the French leaders visit to Guinea in August 1958 , as quoted in Robin Hallett ' s, Africa Since 1875 , University of Michigan Press,

 

[below_freezing]

Why is it that the Pakistanis and Chinese on this forum have a tendency of discussing India in each and every thread. The thread is about comparison between Tahrir and Tiananmen square. It's not about Tiananmen and New Delhi. And even though we know that as far as Chinese on this forum are concerned, nothing happened on Tiananmen square in 1989. Still guys the outside world can access a photograph of a men facing a tank roaring towards him. and although we don't know about his fate, still we will continue to support such people while you guys keep on ranting about deficiencies about the Indian democratic system.

Yes you do know about his fate. It's on youtube, easily accessed by leaping the wall. The tank tried to drive around him, he kept blocking the way, and eventually was pulled off the road by civilians. On the other hand we also know the fate of nameless millions that died to the New Delhi regime every day: they end up as floating bodies in the Ganges.

This thread was posted with malicious intent by an Indian. We are only here to correct inaccuracies in the article, by stating that all countries have internal problems, some more than others and some closer to Egypt than others.

 

[cross1993]

Use "democracy" accuses China, in fact, It is only the Indian government an excuse to cover up incompetence.

What a funny thing! If the Chinese Government is not a good job, Indians will not be afraid of it.
The Chinese government has a high support rate, and the Chinese Government is a good job. Then India said the Chinese government is undemocratic, India hopes to see China change government?

Really naive!
Indian Government console Indians said: "We are not incompetent, We do a great. We have one stronger than China, that is democracy."

 

[Tractor]

correct. the chinese government is calm on the surface but fears the people like hell. that's why it's talking about stability, trying to control housing prices, lower inflation, increasing minimum wage and has free elections. because it knows 水能推舟亦能覆舟 - water can sail the boat, but it can also turn the boat.

the indian government talk about fearing the people but in reality don't give a sh*t. the indian government obviously don't give a sh*t about 2 million citizens dying per year, huge corruption and swis bank accounts worth more than GDP.

water can sail the boat, but it can also turn the boat.great translation.
Let me try to translate that sentence like this:water can float boats,but also could submerge some boats.For this make you think about that a boat without even one leak could be submerged in occasion that people are not sensible or tolerant enough like a flood.

 

[cross1993]

Why is it that the Pakistanis and Chinese on this forum have a tendency of discussing India in each and every thread. The thread is about comparison between Tahrir and Tiananmen square. It's not about Tiananmen and New Delhi. And even though we know that as far as Chinese on this forum are concerned, nothing happened on Tiananmen square in 1989. Still guys the outside world can access a photograph of a men facing a tank roaring towards him. and although we don't know about his fate, still we will continue to support such people while you guys keep on ranting about deficiencies about the Indian democratic system.

But most Chinese is not sympathy for him.
Online, You can continue to search for more detailed information about 1989. The day before the army crackdown, they burned to death a few PLA soldier. Therefore, PLA decided to crackdown.
And their leaders have been receiving U.S. government funding, They just a bunch of spies and political speculators.

In our opinion, they are traitors.

 

[below_freezing]

water can sail the boat, but it can also turn the boat.great translation.
Let me try to translate that sentence like this:water can float boats,but also could submerge some boats.For this make you think about that a boat without even one leak could be submerged in occasion that people are not sensitive or tolerant enough like a flood.

can also happen when an outsider tries to pull the boat down. but the people on the boat will kick him off.

But most Chinese is not sympathy for him.
Online, You can continue to search for more detailed information about 1989. The day before the army crackdown, they burned to death a few PLA soldier. Therefore, PLA decided to crackdown.
And their leaders have been receiving U.S. government funding, They just a bunch of spies and political speculators.

In my opinion, they are traitors.

Agreed. The leaders of the movement are not interested in democracy. The communist party of china is far more interested in democracy than they are. They don't even dare die for their beliefs. If they attained power they would be worse than African dictators or Saddam Hussein, or possibly even the New Delhi regime.

"But radical student leaders changed their minds and decided to stay on. One of them was Commander-in-Chief Chai Ling, who confided to an American journalist: “what we are actually hoping for is bloodshed, for the moment when the government has no choice but to brazenly butcher the people… I can't say all this to my fellow students. I can't tell them straight out that we must use our blood and our lives to call on the people to rise up.”

“Are you going to stay in the Square yourself?” asked the interviewer.

“No, I won’t.”

“Why?”

“… I want to live.”

http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1157&Itemid=159

 

[webber]

it is the indians paste their crap news about china all the time

and i don't remember last time read india news on china newspapers

to compare china to india is pointless in china

 

[HongWu]

If China is Egypt, then India is Congo.

 

[below_freezing]

If China is Egypt, then India is Congo.

How dare you insult the Congo. Less people died in the whole Congo war than in 6 months in India. Malawi might be a more suitable pick. India isn't even on the level of Ethiopia.

 

[casual]

chinese government has popular support with it's people.
egypt's old government doesn't.

it's the economy stupid.