Chinese comment over US ban on Huawei

[rott]

'evidences' from?

from a chootiyah beekoof like you?

Haha thx

You think he's an Indian? Even I don't know. But he claims to be a Viet. But a thief will never call himself a theif. So I am guessing he's not a Viet.

 

[CHN Bamboo]

Google main money source is ads. And Google ad services such as "AdMob" and "AdSense" is blocked in china .
And I dont give a shit about amerika. What I'm saying was and still is you blocked companies to do business in your country and now you have no right to complain

So why doesn't it sue China?
And it's not just China that has trade disputes with the United States now.

 

[rott]

So why doesn't it sue China?
And it's not just China that has trade disputes with the United States now.

These guys aren't arguing because China is wrong, they are arguing for China to be wrong because of Uighurs.
You're wasting your time on them.

 

[JSCh]

About the riot from 2009 in my last post. It is a riot that killed nearly 200 innocent people in Urumqi, Xinjiang.

Both Facebook and Twitter refused to cooperate with Chinese gov't in investigating the riot.

There is also a fact that western media always did not mention. Urumqi is the capital city of Xinjiang, and 75% percent of its population is Han Chinese with 12% Uyghur. Before and on 7 July 2009, significant number of Uyghur from southern Xinjiang where they are a majority, travel to Urumqi to start a protest that turn into a riot that kill nearly 200 people that are majority Han. After the killing, the protester retreat to a traditional Uyghur corner/area in Urumqi city and blockade it from outside access.

Gruesome picture/video of the killing was running amok in social media. Those picture/video is making the local Han majority resident very angry. Talk of revenge killing of Uyghur is running wild.

Imagine if Chinese gov't didn't censored and keep emotion under control, there is a very real possibility of a revenge blood bath.

The next day, a big group of local Han approach the Uyghur corner/area carrying stick and club. With the Uyghur gathering behind the blockage. The Chinese police line up in front to stop the Han from entering.

The funny thing is, the western media took some picture, and report all over the world that Chinese police is cracking down on Uyghur protest, while the police is actually protecting the Uyghur. What irony.

 

[UzaySan]

You guys turn subject into uygurs. Because you now I'm right. And keep believing what your governent told you. Eventually all your information sources is controlled by cummunist party.

 

[CHN Bamboo]

These guys aren't arguing because China is wrong, they are arguing for China to be wrong because of Uighurs.
You're wasting your time on them.

Very true. It is clear that many countries have objections to U.S. unilateralism and protectionism.
The WTO is almost 'paralyzed' by American intervention.
But some members still like to blame China. No wonder some countries will always be developing countries.

 

[Mista]

They should stop buying iPhones and start buying huawei period

Huawei’s CFO was carrying a whole bunch of Apple products when she was arrested
https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-cfo-meng-wanzhou-carrying-apple-products-when-arrested-2019-3

Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei says the US underestimates his company with the trade ban - but admits his family prefer APPLE products
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pany-admits-family-prefer-Apple-products.html

 

[beijingwalker]

You guys turn subject into uygurs. Because you now I'm right. And keep believing what your governent told you. Eventually all your information sources is controlled by cummunist party.

I agree that we should stick to the topic, and the comments made by the people in the video show that Chinese public don't follow the party line, their remarks are quite opposite to Chinese government lines.

 

[Mista]

You want the sale, you transfer your Tech. You don't like it, just walk away. Nobody point a gun in the head and force anybody to do anything. Don't we call it "give and take"?

The world would be a very different place if every country take the same protectionist approach like you said.

Going by your logic, doesn't it apply to the US as well?

What is stopping Trump from saying to China, "You wanna continue accessing US markets/technology, you do a new trade deal with me or I will simply tariff your products/block your technology access. You don't like it, just walk away. Nobody is pointing a gun at you and forcing you to sell to me/buy my technology"?

Which is what is happening now. If you claim that China has the right, so has the US.

 

[gambit]

I don't know whats behind the scenes. What I'm saying is china blocked a lot of companies. And now they don't have the right to complain about on huawei ban.

Do not get me wrong. I agree with you there: No right at all.

But the real issue is not about 'eye-for-eye' matching of bans. China's National Intelligence Law effectively made ready literally every Chinese citizen a readied intelligence asset for the Chinese government. Yes, literally down to the individual citizen. It mean that if the Chinese government want, it can order a Chinese engineer that I work with to steal my company's secrets in the name of national security.

Original and official Chinese government source...

http://www.npc.gov.cn/COBRS_LFYJNEW/user/Law.jsp

Unofficial translation...

https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/中华人民共和国国家情报法（草案）/?lang=en

Article 6: All state organs, armed forces, political parties, social groups, enterprises, public institutions, organizations and citizens, shall support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence efforts, and protect national intelligence work secrets they are aware of.

Note the highlighted -- citizens. The Chinese members of the forum will try to defend the law by pointing out the words 'state' and 'citizens', meaning only government employees are affected. But that is a feeble attempt of making distinction without any difference.

According to Chinese laws, Huawei MUST have a Party representative on its board of directors. Effectively, Huawei under the 2017 National Intelligence Law became an international intelligence apparatus for the Chinese government. This also means that any device manufactured by Huawei can be modified to become a hardware intelligence asset. That nice Huawei phone that have more features than the iPhone? Definitely more features than one might think.

Next is that the ban is a retaliation for China's persistence at IP theft. All China had to do was declare no such recognition to the idea of 'intellectual property' and Western companies would still work with China, albeit with under business environment. But what China have done over the decades is create forced partnerships where IP theft is rampant and with silent government approval.

 

[Han Patriot]

Do not get me wrong. I agree with you there: No right at all.

But the real issue is not about 'eye-for-eye' matching of bans. China's National Intelligence Law effectively made ready literally every Chinese citizen a readied intelligence asset for the Chinese government. Yes, literally down to the individual citizen. It mean that if the Chinese government want, it can order a Chinese engineer that I work with to steal my company's secrets in the name of national security.

Original and official Chinese government source...

http://www.npc.gov.cn/COBRS_LFYJNEW/user/Law.jsp

Unofficial translation...

https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/中华人民共和国国家情报法（草案）/?lang=en

Note the highlighted -- citizens. The Chinese members of the forum will try to defend the law by pointing out the words 'state' and 'citizens', meaning only government employees are affected. But that is a feeble attempt of making distinction without any difference.

According to Chinese laws, Huawei MUST have a Party representative on its board of directors. Effectively, Huawei under the 2017 National Intelligence Law became an international intelligence apparatus for the Chinese government. This also means that any device manufactured by Huawei can be modified to become a hardware intelligence asset. That nice Huawei phone that have more features than the iPhone? Definitely more features than one might think.

Next is that the ban is a retaliation for China's persistence at IP theft. All China had to do was declare no such recognition to the idea of 'intellectual property' and Western companies would still work with China, albeit with under business environment. But what China have done over the decades is create forced partnerships where IP theft is rampant and with silent government approval.

I don't think you read Chinese. Copy that sentence in Chinese and show me please. =)

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Google makes money with internet. And you blocked their access to chinese market. What is the difference?



Then its totally safe to say that other countries can ban chinese companies for self defence.

Google, yahoo and other Internet companies business model are adverts on their pages. China didn't allowed that to these US companies well than it was about time for US to react. Anyways whole issue is regarding 5G technology in which China is likely to take the lead in. US doesn't want that.

 

[gambit]

I don't think you read Chinese.

You do not to 'think'. You are correct that I cannot read Chinese.

Copy that sentence in Chinese and show me please. =)

See post 26 where I gave the direct link to the Chinese goobermint.

In Indian's term, this is called ToT. You want the sale, you transfer your Tech. You don't like it, just walk away. Nobody point a gun in the head and force anybody to do anything. Don't we call it "give and take"?

As smart as you are, I can't believe you would even buy this feeble BS excuse. What the heck is this "Forced Partnership"? Shotgun Marriage?

Why are you playing games with the forum? You used to work for Intel, you know exactly what am talking about.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Do not get me wrong. I agree with you there: No right at all.

But the real issue is not about 'eye-for-eye' matching of bans. China's National Intelligence Law effectively made ready literally every Chinese citizen a readied intelligence asset for the Chinese government. Yes, literally down to the individual citizen. It mean that if the Chinese government want, it can order a Chinese engineer that I work with to steal my company's secrets in the name of national security.

Original and official Chinese government source...

http://www.npc.gov.cn/COBRS_LFYJNEW/user/Law.jsp

Unofficial translation...

https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/中华人民共和国国家情报法（草案）/?lang=en

Note the highlighted -- citizens. The Chinese members of the forum will try to defend the law by pointing out the words 'state' and 'citizens', meaning only government employees are affected. But that is a feeble attempt of making distinction without any difference.

According to Chinese laws, Huawei MUST have a Party representative on its board of directors. Effectively, Huawei under the 2017 National Intelligence Law became an international intelligence apparatus for the Chinese government. This also means that any device manufactured by Huawei can be modified to become a hardware intelligence asset. That nice Huawei phone that have more features than the iPhone? Definitely more features than one might think.

Next is that the ban is a retaliation for China's persistence at IP theft. All China had to do was declare no such recognition to the idea of 'intellectual property' and Western companies would still work with China, albeit with under business environment. But what China have done over the decades is create forced partnerships where IP theft is rampant and with silent government approval.

show the evidence off this ip theft

 

[sinait]

You think he's an Indian? Even I don't know. But he claims to be a Viet. But a thief will never call himself a theif. So I am guessing he's not a Viet.

The Japanese term for such is Hafu or 杂种
In this case it is Indian Viet mixed breed.

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