China's workforce falls for the first time in decade

[Holmes]

I don't know why people think a huge working population is good.

Huge Workforce in Huge Nation = Money, lots of money and economic growth.
One of the reason many western countries slowing down is because of this demographic transition.

 

[Aramsogo]

No need to worry about India we will be a manufacturing hub and replace china.

India will benefit from the china's doom as your people will grow old and we have young people.

For next 20 years from 2015 India will grow at a very tremendous pace highest in the world and will surpass china.

India will never be a manufacturing hub. Never and the reason is simple. The supply chain is in East Asia (Japan, Singapore, Korea and Taiwan) and it's not moving.
As China ages, China will automate and India will starve. Bet on it.

 

[AADHAAR]

India will never be a manufacturing hub. Never and the reason is simple. The supply chain is in East Asia (Japan, Singapore, Korea and Taiwan) and it's not moving.
As China ages, China will automate and India will starve. Bet on it.

China is at a much greater risk of facing starvation ... given desertification, pollution and arable land being converted to built up area.

And can you worry about your country, please?

 

[Holmes]

We have the larget arable land on this planet, the reason for the so called poverty is because of weakness in the public distribution system.
i can get 1 kg rice for 1 Rs. (1/50) of a $ ,if i want from govt. sources, but we don't need it currently. Also the poverty figure from this country is half fake. The real poverty is far less

i've seen in TV china shooting rocket to sky to bring rain, At least we'd never die off hunger anyway.

 

[Aramsogo]

China is at a much greater risk of facing starvation ... given desertification, pollution and arable land being converted to built up area.

And can you worry about your country, please?

That's why China owns African and South American farmland and keeps buying more.

One bad monsoon for India and it's starving time. Actually, it is always starving time, monsoon or not.

 

[Holmes]

One bad monsoon for India and it's starving time. Actually, it is always starving time, monsoon or not.

Actually there's two monsoon seasons.

 

[conworldus]

If food is so cheap in India, why is that 60% of your children are undernourished, and thousands die of hunger every year? These are numbers by the world bank.

We have the larget arable land on this planet, the reason for the so called poverty is because of weakness in the public distribution system.
i can get 1 kg rice for 1 Rs. (1/50) of a $ ,if i want from govt. sources, but we don't need it currently. Also the poverty figure from this country is half fake. The real poverty is far less

i've seen in TV china shooting rocket to sky to bring rain, At least we'd never die off hunger anyway.

 

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

^ I thought this thread was about China :s

 

[scholseys]

China is on par with developed countries in space infotech etc?

Huawei, ZTE and GREAT WALL MOTORS, world renowed brands?

You cant even compare these brands with Tata, Mahindra, Reliance, Airtel and such.

Zte. huawei, haier and lenovo are known in north america. i have never heard of tata, mahindra, airtel in north america; sorry to break your bubble, bro.

 

[AADHAAR]

Zte. huawei, haier and lenovo are known in north america. i have never heard of tata, mahindra, airtel in north america; sorry to break your bubble, bro.

Are you deaf?

My sympathies are with you. Hope it curable.

 

[AADHAAR]

That's why China owns African and South American farmland and keeps buying more.

One bad monsoon for India and it's starving time. Actually, it is always starving time, monsoon or not.

Again, can you worry about your own country?

Trust me, the "one-child policy" is more a necessity that policy, in China. It's another way of saying, there's no food.

This thread is about China .... stay on topic.

 

[houshanghai]

china definitely would not be able to support that many people in 21th century.actually,So many indians were are will suffering from poverty ,starvation and overcrowding.if india want to become a real developed coutry in 21th century, you indians also must promotion of family planning to control the population size ,raising its quality, equitable distribution of population, and the development of human resources and improve the health of the people like china.

with the onset of a global knowledge economy, China is going through a process of knowledge economic restructuring from a huge labor-intensive economic type ,but also diversified in various economic types of activities.


And the UN Population Fund sounded a warning to the international community: Lacking prompt and determined moves to control population and maintain a balance between consumption and development, the world population would be 12.5 billion people by the middle of 21th century and humanity will be unable to develop further. so our china have contributed much to the future of whole world.

 

[xataxsata]

That's why China owns African and South American farmland and keeps buying more.

One bad monsoon for India and it's starving time. Actually, it is always starving time, monsoon or not.

That's called the lack of info that most of chinese suffers.

Karuturi, a Bangalore businessman who has been acquiring land in African nations, has already become the biggest rose grower in the world, and one of the world’s biggest private land owners. Interestingly, he also owns Karuturi Sports, a Kenyan football club (earlier called Sher Agencies) that plays in the country’s premier league.

Indian Investors Buy Farmlands in Africa

India joins 'neocolonial' rush for Africa's land and labour

Indian farming companies have bought hundreds of thousands of hectares in Ethiopia, Kenya, Madagascar, Senegal and Mozambique, where they are growing rice, sugar cane, maize and lentils for their own domestic market back in India.

Its government has given soft loans as aid to support the overseas ventures in what has been described as a challenge to China and Saudi Arabia in the new scramble for Africa. China, South Korea, and a several Arab countries have led the way in creating new African mega-farms to outsource domestic food production and use cheaper labour.

Critics have described the development as modern "piracy" and "land grabbing" from countries that have in the past been blighted by famine and severe food shortages.

South Korea has bought just under 700,000 hectares in Sudan, while Saudi Arabia has signed a deal for 500,000 hectares in Tanzania.

India is now catching up fast with its government offering financial incentives for companies to produce food in Ethiopia and other African countries. Pulses, cooking oils and maize are in short supply in India.


More than 80 Indian companies have invested an estimated £1.5 billion in buying huge plantations in Ethiopia. The largest among them is Karuturi Global, one of the world's largest producers of cut roses. It has signed deals for just under 350,000 hectares to create what it claims is the world's largest agricultural land-bank. The Bangalore-based company, which has also bought farm land in Kenya, is growing sugar cane, palm oil, rice and vegetables.

Indian farming is dominated by small, family-run holdings, bullock cart transport, and legions of middlemen. The slow, cumbersome system is cited as the main reason why a large proportion of Indian produce rots before it ever reaches the market – the annual loss is valued at up to £6 billion.

So Indian companies see in Africa the possibility to build more efficient and far larger agricultural operations. This is an separate motivation from that of many Arab countries that buy African land to produce food that their homelands cannot.

Raju Poosapati, Vice President of India's Yes Bank, which advises investors in Africa, said a government ban on non-Basmati rice exports had driven Indian companies to grow it in Africa to sell overseas. Indians are now eating more meat and that has led many companies to grow maize animal feed in Africa as there are no government incentives for Indian farmers to grow it at home.

Sharad Pawar, India's agriculture minister, rejected claims that the government supported a new colonisation of African farmland. "Some companies are interested in buying agricultural land for sugar cane and then selling it on the international markets. It's business, nothing more," he told The Daily Telegraph.

Government documents meanwhile show the details of official support, and just of under £500 million in soft loans to encourage African countries to export food to India. New Delhi has also cut import duties for food produced in Ethiopia.

A report by the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation said more than 2.5 hectares of African land had been bought by foreign companies since 2004 and voiced concerns that poor villagers might be ousted to make way for investments. It also said it feared some of the deals may be open to corruption.

Devinder Sharma of India's Forum for Biotechnology and Food Security said the companies buying up land to export food from Africa were "food pirates" and compared them with the English companies that shipped food from Ireland during the 19th century potato famine.

"There are 80 Indian companies trying to get land in Ethiopia, and it's all to be imported back to India. The government of India has been encouraging them," he said, and warned of danger if famine returned to Africa.

"If food is being shipped out and poor people are dying, what will happen? There would be riots," he said.

India joins 'neocolonial' rush for Africa's land and labour - Telegraph

 

[KRAIT]

Age distribution of any country generally follows a normal distribution (Normal distribution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Average age is mean age of the population. Now lets consider 3 segment of population, P1,P2,P3 where P1 is children, P2 is youth and P3 is elder people. Here P1 and P3 are called dependent population. Due to china's one child policy, P1 decreased, and over the years, this decreased P1 population become P2 while the P2 population became P3 and new children population is even way lesser than before. This explains the downfall of worker population.

Now to next question, how does it affect the economy. First you have a large P3 (elder) population to take care, their pension. Health cost and elongated life span. Thus the economy has to support these people.

Now when the no. of children born after one child policy are today's current working population, and the present population of children is way less than them, so there isnt enough sufficient replacements.
Hope this clear your doubts , if not feel free to ask. Cheers

 

[xizhimen]

China will reach to the top before becomes an aging society,that will enable China to drain low income labors from around the world like most developed country do.India is the other way around,no people will stay young and wont age forever,when India's population reach to the peak,the country is still a poor developing country,that will cause mass unemployment and the country has to struggle to feed ,accomodate and educate a incredible number of people,that can spell social unrest.and further more,when those people get old,it will require tremendous money and resources for their pensions,medicare....