China's move on Zakiur Lakhvi not about terrorism, but about sending India & US a signal

[rezangahir]

During 1979-1989 , Afghans were armed even by Chinese.



To be frank i think that the Gujrat riots occured because of the same proxy war.

Dude i know you are an Indian Muslim and you and i both know why did Gujrat riots happened ..... What caused that riots.

 

[Hindustani78]

Dude i know you are an Indian Muslim and you and i both know why did Gujrat riots happened ..... What caused that riots.

Yes . It was wrong but we cant deny how much our country have suffered because of the proxy war which is being waged against our nation.

 

[rezangahir]

Yes . It was wrong but we cant deny how much our country have suffered because of the proxy war which is being waged against our nation.

So how about take the battle to heart our enemy.. What's wrong with our game of Proxy war.

Do you agree ?

 

[utraash]

During 1979-1989 , Afghans were armed even by Chinese.



But those who were involved in Gujrat riots , all were punished.

But Chinese were not so active with 3M to oust the soviets from Afghanistan as US n Pakistan...
M- Money
M- Man
M- Machine

 

[xyxmt]

25 Jun, 2015, 11.00AM IST
China's move on Zakiur Lakhvi not about terrorism, but about sending India & US a signal - The Economic Times

The Chinese bailout of Pakistan on the Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi case in the United Nations on Tuesday was as obvious as a hurtling fivetonne truck around the corner. What was more astonishing was that one expected that the UN Sanctions Committee would ask Pakistan to rearrest Lakhvi. The release last April of the mastermind of 26/11 was in violation of the UN resolution on terrorist organisations and groups.

The Chinese have behaved similarly in the past. Beijing blocked sanctions against the Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar in 2009. In December 2010, they prevented the UN Security Council (UNSC) from imposing sanctions on Hafiz Saeed and the Jamat-ud Dawa. And earlier this year, they blocked Indian efforts to put Hizb-ul Mujahideen chief Syed Salahuddin on the terrorist list.

Lakhvi is not important to the Chinese. But the symbolism of their move is. It suits China to be difficult with India and express its irritation with our attitude on oil exploration in the South China Sea.

A veto on Lakhvi is a painless exhibition of solidarity with Pakistan that plays the victim card effectively. Beijing is aware that Pakistan will never take any action in the 26/11 case that will give India comfort. It is simply gathering another IOU from Pakistan knowing how important Lakhvi's incarceration is for India.

Standing by a friend with whom the friendship is a 'higher than the mountains' sort of thing is kosher. Especially at a time when US popularity in Pakistan is at a low ebb, and Washington is inclined to be more passive in these matters. The Chinese support is not about terrorism, but about sending a political signal to India and the US.

China and Pakistan have been close friends for decades and both have needed each other. It is a relationship based on a common enmity with India with 1962 and 1965 being landmark years. Pakistan helped China break its isolation when it set up the Nixon-Mao meeting in 1972. India campaigned for China's permanent membership in the UNSC (P5), but got no thanks for it as it happened too late, eventually in 1971.

Pakistani-Chini Bhai-Bhai

Pakistan was a frontline state in the Afghan jihad, a US-led Cold War front at a time when China's differences with the Soviet Union were acute. As a reward for this — and as a low-cost counter against India — the Chinese helped Pakistan acquire nuclear capability and, through the North Koreans, missile capability.

The latest mega infrastructure deal of $45 billion between China and Pakistan is more than just a counter to India-US relations. It gives China ultimate access to the Arabian Sea all the way from Gwadar to Karachi. And if Beijing plans to celebrate 2049 as a hundred years of communist rule, it would like to commemorate this by ruling the seas from the South China Sea to the Persian Gulf.

Connectivity from the coastline through Gilgit Baltistan through to Kashgar and farther into Xinjiang is of vital importance to China in its grand plan for the region. But beyond being a useful real estate for Chinese global designs, Pakistan has to factor in the well-known Chinese paranoia about internal disturbances, especially the currently ongoing Islamic movements in Xinjiang.

The Chinese are aware of Pakistani misdemeanours in Xinjiang in the past. They also know that it is the Pakistanis with their contacts among extremists who can possibly help them curb this threat. For this, China has to ensure that it makes Pakistan feel secure against a perceived Indian threat. In addition, Pakistan is another access point into the larger Muslim world for Beijing.

Pakistan, largely isolated from most of the world, looks upon China for a way out of its current economic mess. In the past, China's investments have never really been geared to help a recipient country. But India being a factor in China's calculations, it may actually provide investment that helps Pakistan.


Beijing has been quick to offer Pakistan matching deals like the ones India got from the US following the civil nuclear and military hardware deals. It will continue to block India's entry into other nuclear arrangements like the Nuclear Suppliers' Group so long as Pakistan is excluded. China will remain Pakistan's main arms and nuclear power supplier.

Friend in Need

Pakistan fears that the US might lose interest in the Af-Pak region. And it is China that they believe to be the only country to provide 'post-American' security. Which is why Islamabad would be eager to have Beijing lend a hand in Afghanistan and negotiate with the Taliban, leaving the Indians out in the cold.

China may not want a quid pro quo from Pakistan on all issues. But it'll seek cooperation in dealing with its Uighur issue in Xinjiang, where violence and unrest has broken out this week after the recent clampdown on Ramzan. The real test for China-Pakistan ties lies ahead as Beijing gets deeply involved with an increasingly radicalised Islamic state.

(The writer is former chief of R&AW)

Keep pleading everyone for permanent UN seat while we have one, hopefully; but i doubt; you will learn from these humiliations.

 

[ito]

China is playing petty politics. This is only going to harden India's stance in becoming a player in South China sea.

The rule is simple: You interfere in own region...we interfere in yours

Keep pleading everyone for permanent UN seat while we have one, hopefully; but i doubt; you will learn from these humiliations.

UN permanent seat is a conclusion for India. It is the question of 'when'.

 

[Luca1]

First because China wants best relation with Pakistan.

Indians only deal in master/slave relationship, not friendship.

China is playing petty politics. This is only going to harden India's stance in becoming a player in South China sea.

The rule is simple: You interfere in own region...we interfere in yours



UN permanent seat is a conclusion for India. It is the question of 'when'.

If it's a question of when ,then don't hold your breathe.

 

[ito]

Indians only deal in master/slave relationship, not friendship.



If it's a question of when ,then don't hold your breathe.

Another Pakistani behind US flags...

 

[Luca1]

Another Pakistani behind US flags...

I'm not Pakistani nor Chinese. Guess again.

 

[Hindustani78]

Partially agreed.... But US had never thought before 9/11 the whom it was arming against soviet in Afghanistan would turn back n hunt its own ppl one day ....

That was cold war era and during that time nuclear war was way more dangerous then arming small arms.

In 1979 China invaded Vietnam to defend Cambodia from the Vietnamese incursion of 1978. The Soviet Union condemned the invasion and increased arms shipments to Vietnam and during that time Chinese supplied weapons to Afghans against Soviet Invasion.

So how about take the battle to heart our enemy.. What's wrong with our game of Proxy war.

Do you agree ?

I think first we should get permanent seat in UNSC.

We are not interested in proxy war and working towards development and improvement of living standards of our population.

Indians only deal in master/slave relationship, not friendship.

According to whom ?

We have always let people from other nations on our lands. We know what is friendship and never forget any of our friend.

I'm not Pakistani nor Chinese. Guess again.

But there are certain countries who let both of them but always have reservations when it is about Indians.

 

[Hindustani78]

Zero tolerance??

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This statement is issued just days after the Chinese support to Pakistan regarding Lakhvi.

 

[rezangahir]

I'm not Pakistani nor Chinese. Guess again.

Taiwanese

 

[Areesh]

This statement is issued just days after the Chinese support to Pakistan regarding Lakhvi.

Yup and it exposes your duplicity.

Its more or less because of evidence.

All of them got bail in this Modi regime. Not much is needed to understand the reason behind their bails.

 

[Hindustani78]

Yup and it exposes your duplicity.

Its shows the double standards of Chinese

All of them got bail in this Modi regime. Not much is needed to understand the reason behind their bails.

Not true, 12 were arrested just 4 got bail , still the remaining are in jails.

 

[Jaanbaz]

I wonder what these Indians smoke, Must be the Good stuff

Vedic weed.