China’s Dystopian Experiment in Xinjiang

[T-123456]

His future favourite year is 2023.

Give him another year,2023 is important to us(100 year Turkish Republic).

 

[Nilgiri]

You are losing it, Sinophobia bugs are eating into your gray matter, and you are acting like you just took a load of "bath salts".

Calm down, pal, this is just a forum and your rage is not going to hurt anyone except yourself.

LOL you think I am in a rage lol. Maybe you should first stop with your low blow insults/insinuations wherever you can insert them mr. hypocrite....before preaching on your CPC soapbox?....located in USA of all places too . Food for thought.

Its dreadfully easy to call out where human wave PLA trolls are being frankly exactly what @Viva_Viet says they are. Nothing "raging" or "sinophobe" about it. I support China accomplishments in other threads, giving credit where credit is due.

But apparently everyone needs a full singular acceptance of everything under the gamut of China....yeah no. Sorry you dont get to run tanks over those that disagree with you lot.....and your inability to handle the criticism shows very clearly here when you don't have that "delete them to make what they say go away" option.

 

[oprih]

China's counterpropaganda about this issue is awesome. Extremely pro-China Dilereba and Abudushalamu and the numerous Uighurs in Chinese media and sports team have so many fans from muslim countries especially in southeast asia, after learning that their idols are extremely pro-China, pdf's "Uighurs are locked in Chinese camps" story immediately gets ignored.

 

[T-123456]

@CAN_TR @damm1t @MMM-E @Dai Toruko @xenon54 @Islamic faith&Secularism

A lot of things that you guys were illustrating (in the now closed thread about Xinjiang/East Turkestan) are mentioned (and expanded upon) in this forum interaction.

Please flick through it/watch it as you please and share any thoughts you may have. The world is not ignoring this situation anymore obviously.

We know all this first hand but our government isnt acting on it because of the economic situation.
We only need to wait untill after Trump(2 years),then its over for China.
First they'll(the West) target the economy,after which the rest will be easy(Domino effect).

 

[Nilgiri]

Give him another year,2023 is important to us(100 year Turkish Republic).

Congrats in advance

China's counterpropaganda about this issue is awesome. Extremely pro-China Dilereba and Abudushalamu and the numerous Uighurs in Chinese media and sports team have so many fans from muslim countries especially in southeast asia, after learning that their idols are extremely pro-China, pdf's "Uighurs are locked in Chinese camps" story immediately gets ignored.

0 - 17 ....lol.

Its so awesome, you had to make a post here lol. Much awesomeness indeed.

What kind of troll are you again....the most obvious kind lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/our-...ltural-revolution.593835/page-5#post-11060874

The first one is one liner troll, regardless of what kind of topic you are on, his response is just one line, it may be a different line everytime, but it's always one line, and it have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Folks like the oprih guy.

 

[oprih]

Congrats in advance



0 - 17 ....lol.

Its so awesome, you had to make a post here lol. Much awesomeness indeed.

What kind of troll are you again....the most obvious kind lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/our-...ltural-revolution.593835/page-5#post-11060874

The first one is one liner troll, regardless of what kind of topic you are on, his response is just one line, it may be a different line everytime, but it's always one line, and it have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Folks like the oprih guy.

I'm honored to have entire paragraphs and analysis written about me. More of this in the future please.

 

[Nilgiri]

I'm honored to have entire paragraphs and analysis written about me. More of this in the future please.

Yeah how many posts have you made over like 4 accounts or whatever the running total is now?...all variants like opruh, opreh, oproh LOL...coz you is so smart! And only have negative ratings to show for it lol?

The least we can do is summarize what you are....stoke that little ego of yours....so it provides more entertainment on demand haha.

 

[ziaulislam]

You are free to post up any such high level video regarding respected people of power in 3rd party influential/powerful countries talking about India "dystopian experiment" in Kashmir. Find me even one in your own country first (whatever your equivalent senators, policy wonks, high level guests are) ....and if there isn't tell me what you can personally do to put pressure on your govt to do so....given how they responded in Tianenmen (as one example)....so nothing of that nature would ever happen again. I am all ears

Go find it....quick step/goose step STRONK as you wish to your superiors so they throw a little carrot your way....and get back to me. Or just continue to cry/whine here where nothing you say matters....its your choice.

@Joe Shearer @Vibrio @jbgt90 @Jackdaws @scorpionx @Skull and Bones

better than taking their livelihood and banning cows..and them doing lynching on cow breeding...while same time allowing cow exports through co operations

 

[Nilgiri]

better than taking their livelihood and banning cows..and them doing lynching on cow breeding...while same time allowing cow exports through co operations

Better than sheltering osama bin laden and then saying you didn't know at all...but then jail the doctor that helped out with it all....and then say its all just conspiracy that didnt happen at all.

 

[Genesis]

@Nilgiri

I'm not going to argue that this should happen, and base on my experience with China and people in general, it's apparent this is actually happening. Is it at this scale? Is it as bad as described? I highly doubt it, it's also from my experience with people in general. However, detaining people for unspecified reason is already bad enough and should count as a crime against humanity.

On the one hand, it's not only extremism, which actually isn't that big of a problem, the bigger issue is integration. Unlike Canada, Xinjiang is not Quebec, it is not the most developed part of the country, it's lucky it isn't the least. No one will try to become like them. On the other hand, this will increase tension and could potentially, if not already turn into a white and black issue like in America.

China is popularizing Uygur actresses and celebrities in a modern Chinese way, I mean these celebrities' acting roles are almost 100% Han Chinese roles rather than minority roles like 10-15 years ago. On the other hand it is striking hard against a separate identity.

Personally, the Quebec way of integration through migration would have been better, but in many ways it is not the same situation.

What is your take on this, or to be more frank, India has a separate identity problem as well, in many ways way worse than China due to the fact Chinese Han and similar minorities are by far the dominate race here. India will one day reach global prominence same as China, by than what you can get away with now won't be the same as before.

Just to end it, while I do have an opinion, I don't really have a moral stance, as morally, there can only be one stance, even in reality there is more than one way and this is far from ideal. What's your take on it.

 

[ziaulislam]

Better than sheltering osama bin laden and then saying you didn't know at all...but then jail the doctor that helped out with it all....and then say its all just conspiracy that didnt happen at all.

Even an idiot who visted pak afghan boarder will understand that...open baorder means open boarder..tbe boarder was open..USA couldn't capture the guy while he was roaming all over the world..lastly noone except america knows truly what was found in outskirts of abbotabad 100 miles from afghan border in mist of 5 million refugees

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri

I'm not going to argue that this should happen, and base on my experience with China and people in general, it's apparent this is actually happening. Is it at this scale? Is it as bad as described? I highly doubt it, it's also from my experience with people in general. However, detaining people for unspecified reason is already bad enough and should count as a crime against humanity.

On the one hand, it's not only extremism, which actually isn't that big of a problem, the bigger issue is integration. Unlike Canada, Xinjiang is not Quebec, it is not the most developed part of the country, it's lucky it isn't the least. No one will try to become like them. On the other hand, this will increase tension and could potentially, if not already turn into a white and black issue like in America.

China is popularizing Uygur actresses and celebrities in a modern Chinese way, I mean these celebrities' acting roles are almost 100% Han Chinese roles rather than minority roles like 10-15 years ago. On the other hand it is striking hard against a separate identity.

Personally, the Quebec way of integration through migration would have been better, but in many ways it is not the same situation.

What is your take on this, or to be more frank, India has a separate identity problem as well, in many ways way worse than China due to the fact Chinese Han and similar minorities are by far the dominate race here. India will one day reach global prominence same as China, by than what you can get away with now won't be the same as before.

Just to end it, while I do have an opinion, I don't really have a moral stance, as morally, there can only be one stance, even in reality there is more than one way and this is far from ideal. What's your take on it.

In the end I don't really have much take on it....as both set of people I don't have a vested interest in (in fact one can argue I have more interest in the Chinese side). So I let "might makes right" apply....as "moral intervention" just brings greater immorality in the end and way more bloodshed. @OsmanAli98

But does not mean we can dismiss concerns of both sides while this is all ongoing. Yes it applies to India and every large country in the end as well (just by nature of their size and history). The "newer" big countries got rid of this problem by doing the nasty stuff centuries ago (to form in the first place). The "elder" large countries are just in that timeframe...but more currently...so get judged by standards not fully applicable to them imo....given they inherited stuff from time periods they couldnt not exercise the same thing as those taunting them now... did earlier.

You bring up French Canadian thing....very interesting that you do. I shall expand more upon that at a more opportune time (as I know too many things firsthand now about it)...i.e both the similarities and differences to Xinjiang. You are smart one my friend.....glad you bypass the BS and get to the meat of the matter always. Wish more members were like you, your country deserves much more of you here....who go for the best quality discussion.

 

[Joe Shearer]

China is much more open minded than you turks, that's why we can have the up to date knowledge of this world and stand in the frontline of innovations and scientific development, we can quickly adjust oursleves to fit with this fast changing word and now in many fields we are already the front runners. turkey is the place that seems to be fever stuck in the dark age with no future to look at.

You forgot to mention photocopying as a development and scientific innovation tool.

 

[beijingwalker]

You forgot to mention photocopying as a development and scientific innovation tool.

A typical brainwashed Indian mindset, this world has changed long time ago.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I'm honored to have entire paragraphs and analysis written about me. More of this in the future please.

Not a problem. Just keep backing into discussions. Clearly you like the feeling of what happens next.

Even an idiot who visted pak afghan boarder will understand that...open baorder means open boarder..tbe boarder was open..USA couldn't capture the guy while he was roaming all over the world..lastly noone except america knows truly what was found in outskirts of abbotabad 100 miles from afghan border in mist of 5 million refugees

Least of all the local administration.

Instructive.