China unveils terrifying Dongfeng-41 nuke that ‘can strike US in 30 minutes with TEN warheads

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Aircraft formation debuts for review in China’s National Day parade

Maybe a few JF-17s should also have participated. They are after all a result of Chinese engineering and have been tested in combat environment already.

 

[BringHarmony]

LOL just like Pakistan cannot hit Indian airbases. Stupid fool.

Yes, just like that. Fool.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes, just like that.

Sure they can't and you have so much evidence to support that fantasy......

RCS of F22 will be in range of 0.0001 - 0.0002 meter square. Meaning, your grand Chinese radars will be detecting it only from 20-30 KM, if the graphs you posted are correct.

Meanwhile, F-22 will take out your Chinese platforms from a safe distance of 100-130 KM.

@The Eagle @Dubious @waz @WAJsal @Horus @Arsalan @Irfan Baloch

This little weiner man troll from gangaland has been making ludicrous and far fetched claims which he has 0 evidence, for the past 4 days. Read his previous posts. Please deal with this creature

 

[LeGenD]

It is indeed quite a remarkable missile system. But it's speculated range is ~2000km. Not long enough to reach mainland US but certainly long enough to target US military assets in the Asia Pacific. Pakistan should also embark on this design.

DF-41 seems to be a Chinese response to American Trident D5 SLBM - similar role and function. Although DF-41 is not seaborne.

DF-17 is essentially MRBM that is equipped with an HGV - interesting weapon. It make sense for penetrative strikes near Chinese borders and/or coasts.

On a broader level, China seems to be transforming its ballistic missiles into layers of A2/AD across the Asia-Pacific sector; interesting doctrine and a powerful PsyOps model. A potential adversary will have to worry about these layers while engaging Chinese forces in the South China Sea or even in Taiwan, and I doubt that any country have the capacity to do so barring US*.

*China and Iran have collectively motivated US to heavily invest in seemingly excellent Aegis defense applications in recent years. As such, only US will be able to contend with China in the future. Although Japan is importing this capability from US as well.

The pace of Chinese advances in its defenses are such that it might be 2nd only to US in terms of power projection at present. Above Russia ??? You agree ???

 

[BringHarmony]

DF-41 seems to be a Chinese response to American Trident D5 SLBM - similar role and function. Although DF-41 is not seaborne.

Thats JL-2A and JL-3 missile systems.

China is on learning ropes for what US and Russia did in 1960s-80s.

The pace of Chinese advances in its defenses are such that it might be 2nd only to US in terms of power projection at present. Above Russia ??? You agree ???

Above Russia? LOL! Not even close. Russia during cold war developed FOBS which was a massive concern for US. China is no where close.

Maybe a few JF-17s should also have participated. They are after all a result of Chinese engineering and have been tested in combat environment already.

They don't fly JF-17s. Its an export only fighter. Hence, it was not included in this.

JF-17 will be shown in export-oriented airshows.

 

[LeGenD]

Above Russia? LOL! Not even close. Russia during cold war developed FOBS which was a massive concern for US. China is no where close.

Russia was in USSR back then - an alliance of 16 Soviet Socialist Republics with shared resources.

Although Russia inherited the lionshare of the nuclear infrastructure of USSR after the latter's dissolution, Russia no longer have economic flexibility to spend lavishly on its defenses and its power projection capabilities have significantly eroded over time.

China have the luxury to spend lavishly on its defenses, and its investment in R&D programs is far ahead of Russian investment in R&D programs at present. As such China is able to deploy a large variety of weapons but Russia is not able to - so power calculus might have shifted in recent years.

 

[rott]

I like how the Indian like to ride on another country's credits when their own country have nothing to show for.

 

[Nike]

But the problem is, no serious military power, be small or big, will back down (Ok unless you are Dr M). Worse, the PLA lacks fighting experience unlike the US army. The last war the PLA fought against Vietnam goes back 40 years ago, we remember.

I expect Xi will seek firstly a war with a smaller opponent such as Indonesia (did they claim ASEAN leader?) before face the showdown with the US.

How about you finished the Pho your customer ordered?

 

[Beast]

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See similarity in the two statements? LOL!

@waz @The Eagle
Is such statement acceptable?

 

[PurpleButcher]

Do they have anything to counter F-22? I doubt it.

YES! Missiles which can destroy airbases of F-22

 

[8888888888888]

DF 17 is going to be use to wipe out thadd bases.

 

[phancong]

YES! Missiles which can destroy airbases of F-22

Chinese missiles target all the airfield and aircraft carrier so no aircraft can land after f22 attack China

 

[Yaseen1]

Sure.

Guess what is the rcs range of F-22A Raptor.

There is difference between claims and what physics tells you.

Now factor-in F-22A's ability to suppress/degrade radars on the surface, and also American specilization in surveillance as well as standoff munitions. You understand where this is going?


LMAO

VLO aircraft are designed to penetrate and/or disrupt defenses of all manner.

Of-course, stealth does not imply invisibility, but advances in stealth are making it possible to penetrate and/or disrupt heavily guarded spaces with minimum losses, and pave way for larger set of operations in the same sector afterwards. Understand the difference.

F-35 was never struck in Syria, this assertion is not proven. Do you realize how massive S-200 interceptor is? It would have obliterated the jet with a single hit.

Israel have successfully utilized F-35A to strike at structures housing Iranian equipment in some of the most secure spaces in Syria without any issue, but did not publicize these actions. Although Syrian sources have suspected as much. Syria also lost a functional Chinese YJ-21 radar system in one of these strikes, and this is one of the finest radar systems out there.

F-117A was downed by enemy fire only once in hundreds of its sorties over Yugoslavia (now Serbia). People somehow forget the bigger picture.

F-117A sorties-to-loss ratio over Serbia = 800+ : 1

F-117A sorties-to-loss ratio over Iraq = 1300+ : 0

And the relatively far more advanced B-2 Spirit pummeled Serbia unlike any other jet without a single loss. There are visible reminders of damage in Serbia from B-2 sorties even today.


J-20 is at LRIP stage (very low in numbers) at present, and feature a mix of Russian and Chinese parts although engines are still Russian. It will not be ready to confront F-22A head on anytime soon. J-20 is better optimized for LO principles than Russian Su-57, but China need to equip J-20 with LO-optimized engines to enable it for penetrative missions over its regional adversaries such as Taiwan and Vietnam if the need arise; China is developing and testing WS-15 engines for the needful.

When complete, J-20 is expected to be close to F-35 in warfighting capabilities but still a very different bird in comparison.

Too early to judge J-20 due to low publicity until WE see it in action. It might surprise all but WE are swimming in speculatory territory at present.

I think chinese satellites can track stealth planes and f22 cannot suppress them

 

[tower9]

But the problem is, no serious military power, be small or big, will back down (Ok unless you are Dr M). Worse, the PLA lacks fighting experience unlike the US army. The last war the PLA fought against Vietnam goes back 40 years ago, we remember.

I expect Xi will seek firstly a war with a smaller opponent such as Indonesia (did they claim ASEAN leader?) before face the showdown with the US.

China is not going to pick a fight with a smaller country and definitely not Indonesia. That is not even logical.

China doesn't have to do anything. It just needs to keep developing and it will soon be the most powerful nation bar none.

The US is far more likely to start a war and ratchet up tensions because the US is in a declining position in the power contest, thus it is racing against time and feeling deeply threatened. I think the US, with or without Trump, will ratchet up tensions, push for more HK riots, push for Taiwanese independence, increase sanctions, push for Uighur terrorism, Tibetan independence and everything they can do to hurt China. But actual war? I think the chances are pretty low. The US is not even in a position to fight Iran and you expect the US to fight a war with China? That's going to require massive conscription and will most surely cost millions of American lives, that is no exaggeration, it will be in the millions. And with absolutely no guarantee that the US will win either.

The US is still militarily more powerful than China, but I think at this point, there is no guarantee it will prevail over China in a war. The gap is closing rapidly and China is investing heavily into R&D producing incredible returns.

 

[KAL-EL]

DF 17 is going to be use to wipe out thadd bases.

Yes, and US will Respond with its own massive arsenal of weapons.

remember... War is a 2 Way St. It won’t just be one country doing the shooting.

War is not like a video game

I take my leave now