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China Rearms Bangladesh On The Cheap

Leadership: China Rearms Bangladesh On The Cheap

November 25, 2011: As part of a major effort to modernize the armed forces of Bangladesh, China will deliver 16 F-7BGI jet fighters next year. Bangladesh already has 40 older F-7s (a clone of the Russian MiG-21), plus ten MiG-29s, which form the core of their air combat force. China is providing the aircraft at bargain prices, and doing the same with lots of other military equipment.

Earlier this year Bangladesh has bought seven 250 ton patrol boats from China. Two will be built in China, and five in Bangladesh. The 30 meter (93 foot) vessels are part of a two year old effort to rebuild the Bangladeshi Navy.

Last year, the U.S. Coast Guard donated 16 Defender-class patrol boats. These nine meter (26.5 foot) boats are powered by twin outboard engines, have a top speed of 85 kilometers an hour (and cruise at 65 kilometers an hour). The Defenders carry a crew of four, are armed with two machine-guns and can carry six passengers (or prisoners). They are excellent for patrolling the many river delta waterways on the Bangladeshi coast. The newly created Bangladesh Special Operations Force has adopted the Defender as their primary seaborne transport. Bangladesh has also bought two Castle class patrol boats from Britain, for $2 million each. These 75 meter (246 foot), 1,400 ton ships are armed with a 30mm autocannon and four machine guns. Bangladesh needs all these patrol vessels to deal with smugglers. Neighboring Myanmar is the source of opium smuggling, some which is often carried out by Islamic radical groups, to provide cash for terrorist operations.

Bangladesh has also bought 44 MBT-2000 tanks, plus three recovery vehicles, from China, for about $5 million each. This is a major upgrade, as Bangladesh currently has a force of some 500 heavy tanks, about 60 percent of them the Chinese Type 59 (a copy of the Russian T-54), with the rest being Type 69 (copies of the Russian T-55). Both are 1950s technology, with some upgrades. The MBT 2000 is an export version of the Chinese Type 98/99, although they also look similar to the Type 90/Al Khalid (a Type 90 variant developed by China and Pakistan for Pakistani service).

The Type 98/99/90/MBT-2000 vehicles are all "improved T-72s." Lots of improvements, though, many of them similar to what's found in the Russian T-80UM2. The workmanship on these vehicles is a little better than on the T-80UM2, but the Chinese don't have as much experience building tanks. This has shown itself in the numerous technical glitches that have shown up. The basic T-72 design has been around for over 30 years and has proved reliable, although not particularly effective on the battlefield. That was mostly due to poor crews. The Chinese moved to volunteer crews and more intensive training, which makes any tank more effective.
 
what is the price of single Unit Hq-15?? is china allowed to sell them??? is it very difficult for Bangladesh to acquire 2 unit of those???
 
I think the decision was between going for J-17 altogether or getting cheaper F-7 along with a superior fighter like Su-30 or F-16. As long as China not betting on JF-17 there will be very few countries interested in that aircraft as the future is very uncertain.

who care, cheap but could kill well!!!

if Bangladeshis don't like that then let's sell those to my Cambodia!!! all "cheap" weapons from China are warmly welcomed to export to my Cambodia, even the ancient ones!!!
 
why F-7BGI and not JF-17?

The new F-7BGI or the already existing 40 units of F-7 will not be BAF's mainstay fighter planes. Different planes have different functions in a war. The new F-BGIs will be BVR capable but only with 4 hardpoints below its wing alongwith some other important modifications requested by BAF. However, the purpose is to replace the old F-5 planes.

Since BAF is purchasing these 3 generation fighters, it means it has plans to buy some other 4+generation planes from China or other country in the near future.

By the way, I have read somewhere that China will fully stop F-7BG production if only FC-1 fighters are proved very efficient finally. It means FC-1s are a little more capable than F-7s. So, it is logical that BAF has not chosen JF-17/FC-1. But, instead, it has chosen an improved BGI version of F-7. This shows that BAF will finally buy some other 4+ generation planes in the future.
 
I know the castle class ships are second hand. but these 75 meter (246 foot), 1,400 ton ships only cost $2 mil each??? thats cheap
 
Get destroyers, enough of petrol vessel...!!


Cheers!!!

---------- Post added at 03:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:01 PM ----------

WOW WE ARE REALLY buying a lot of arms i guess for us

Lol if you call F-7s a lot of arms...then yes! :P


Cheers!!!
 
I know the castle class ships are second hand. but these 75 meter (246 foot), 1,400 ton ships only cost $2 mil each??? thats cheap

This is what I have found in Wikipedia about the two Castke class boats that BD bought from England:

Castle class patrol vesselFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search

Class overview
Builders: Hall, Russell & Company
Preceded by: Island-class patrol vessel
Succeeded by: River-class patrol vessel
Built: 1979–1981
In commission: 1982-2008
Planned: 6
Completed: 2
Laid up: 2
General characteristics
Displacement: 1,427 tons full load
Length: 246 ft (75 m) (overall)
Beam: 37 ft 9 in (11.51 m)
Draught: 11 ft 3 in (3.43 m)
Propulsion: 2 shafts, 2 Paxman diesels, 2,820 hp
Speed: 20 knots (37 km/h)
Range: 10,000 nautical miles (19,000 km) at 10 knots (19 km/h)
Complement: 40
Sensors and
processing systems: Type 1006 Radar
Simrad RU sidescan sonar
Armament: 1 × Bofors 40 mm gun Mark III, replaced by 1 × 30 mm gun
Aviation facilities: Flight deck capable of supporting a Sea King helicopter

The Castle class was intended as a series of six offshore patrol vessels for the Royal Navy, designed in response to criticism of the previous Island class for insufficient speed, non optimal sea keeping and lack of a flight deck for rescue helicopters.

In the event, only two ships were built, HMS Leeds Castle and HMS Dumbarton Castle. Both vessels were built by Hall Russell in Aberdeen. These had significant improvements over the Island class - they are 300 tonnes larger, more stable in heavy seas, 3 knots (5.6 km/h) faster and are fitted with a large flight deck that is capable of supporting a Sea King. For brief periods, the ships can accommodate up to 120 troops. Their primary mission is to serve with the Fishery Protection Squadron, protecting both the fishing fleets and the oil and gas fields of the North Sea. In addition, they can also serve as minelayers, and have detergent spraying facilities on board for dispersing oil slicks.

Since the Falklands War, one ship had been kept long term in the Falkland Islands as a guardship. Leeds Castle and Dumbarton Castle rotated the role on a three-yearly basis, although the ship's crew usually did a six month rotation.

The Castle class has now been replaced by a unique vessel based on the River class, HMS Clyde, and both vessels of the class are now decommissioned. Originally due to transfer to the Pakistani Maritime Security Agency in 2007, the deal fell through and both ships have now been sold to BANGLADESH.[1][2][3]

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Each was bought at only a face value of $2million. But, these two ships had to be re-conditioned and re-furbished with new equipments (engines? not sure) and guns as per request from BN and all with BD money. The dockyard that re-furbished these boats was very happy with this order from BN, because about 100 workers had jobs for a few months. Now, the boats are with our BN.
 
@@@ eastwatch. Did you see the picture of those castle class vessels. Our fishing trawlers look even in better condition than them.
 
I think the decision was between going for J-17 altogether or getting cheaper F-7 along with a superior fighter like Su-30 or F-16. As long as China not betting on JF-17 there will be very few countries interested in that aircraft as the future is very uncertain.



250 JF-17s will eventually be procured by Pakistan and china is committed to continually developing this fighter to keep it up to date as much possible.

Since August 2010, a test JF-17 has been flying with an indigenous WS-13 turbofan. A further improved higher-thrust Ws-13 will be introduce shortly. Also, a block 2 version with AESA and airframe modifications is also in development.

It makes no sense for BD to purchase aircraft like SU-30 as India already has it and knows pretty much all there is about it's capabilities and weaknesses. The Jf-17 would be a complete unknown to India and would be better for BD with it's scarce resources.

The best thing about Jf-17 is it's very low price of 20 million, which would be around half that of any other fighter.

Anti-Pakistan Awami league morons have screwed over BD again!
 

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