China pushes Uighurs to give up fasting in Ramzan

[ito]

When Children were advised not to fast during Ramzan in a Britain school, Pakistanis went berserk. Now when China is forcing all adult Muslims to give-up fasting none of the Pakistanis are interested

As they say sabse bada rupaiya....

 

[pigtaker]

The denial of Ramadan fasting by Chinese authorities in Uighuristan in condemnable. The Ccommunist authorites have destroyed mosques and Muslum monuments in order to destroy native Uighur culture. Millions of ethnic Hans are being settled in Uighuristan in order to change its ethnic balance in order to to make native Uighurs a minority.

your whole countrty live on the mercy of Chinese authorities, show some spines and become self-dependent, then come to condemn our government.

we do what is best for our stabililty. we have no obligation or intention to just make musilim happy, in fact nobody can. keeping whinning, we don't care.

 

[Sine Nomine]

your whole countrty live on the mercy of Chinese authorities, show some spines and become self-dependent, then come to condemn our government.

we do what is best for our stabililty. we have no obligation or intention to just make musilim happy, in fact nobody can. keeping whinning, we don't care.

You share mutul intereest with us,Go fk off Pakistan helped china when everybody was trying to fk you from India to US and US to USSR,we are self dependent until 1971 your airlines were using our airspace to go into rest of world,remember you are surrounded by hostiles states all round...Chinese authority..bunch of commies killing thousand yearly....

 

[pigtaker]

You share mutul intereest with us,Go fk off Pakistan helped china when everybody was trying to fk you from India to US and US to USSR,we are self dependent until 1971 your airlines were using our airspace to go into rest of world,remember you are surrounded by hostiles states all round...Chinese authority..bunch of commies killing thousand yearly....

in what capacity you can help? don't delusion youself and make me laugh. or you mean you once act as a US errand boy? bunch of commies? is it shame for your country keep come to begging from us commies? I think you should go to US. they are not commies and treat you like an angel.

In the long run, once china settle dispute with india, one way or another,india should become china' long term strategic partner, which would make us feel far more comfortable.

 

[Indos]

Doesnt comment, doesnt mean Muslim world being passive since it is only a forum. Muslim world nominal GDP is similar like Japan, and since all of us are developing countries, it means we keep growing, inshaALLAH. Muslim is not afraid of anything except their God.

 

[third eye]

The denial of Ramadan fasting by Chinese authorities in Uighuristan in condemnable. The Ccommunist authorites have destroyed mosques and Muslum monuments in order to destroy native Uighur culture. Millions of ethnic Hans are being settled in Uighuristan in order to change its ethnic balance in order to to make native Uighurs a minority.

your whole countrty live on the mercy of Chinese authorities, show some spines and become self-dependent, then come to condemn our government.

we do what is best for our stabililty. we have no obligation or intention to just make musilim happy, in fact nobody can. keeping whinning, we don't care.

You share mutul intereest with us,Go fk off Pakistan helped china when everybody was trying to fk you from India to US and US to USSR,we are self dependent until 1971 your airlines were using our airspace to go into rest of world,remember you are surrounded by hostiles states all round...Chinese authority..bunch of commies killing thousand yearly....

in what capacity you can help? don't delusion youself and make me laugh. or you mean you once act as a US errand boy? bunch of commies? is it shame for your country keep come to begging from us commies? I think you should go to US. they are not commies and treat you like an angel.

In the long run, once china settle dispute with india, one way or another,india should become china' long term strategic partner, which would make us feel far more comfortable.

I am happy to read this part in bold above ( last post quoted).

Chinese are far more pragmatic than most.

BTW, this must be among the few heated exchanges between Pakistani & Chinese poster here .

 

[Maira La]

The denial of Ramadan fasting by Chinese authorities in Uighuristan in condemnable. The Ccommunist authorites have destroyed mosques and Muslum monuments in order to destroy native Uighur culture. Millions of ethnic Hans are being settled in Uighuristan in order to change its ethnic balance in order to to make native Uighurs a minority.

Uighurs are not native to Xinjiang. I read somewhere some Chinese dynasty (Ming?) brought their loyal Uighur allies to the region after they defeated some hostile mongol tribes together. The Chinese let them settle there (southern Xinjiang?) to change the demographic balance in favor of pro Chinese ethnic groups. From this historical pov, present day Uighurs seem to be a bunch of ingrates.

@Chinese-Dragon @Kiss_of_the_Dragon

 

[SQ8]

Anymore, Pakistan specific posts and that member will not return to the forum.. let alone the thread.

 

[pigtaker]

I am happy to read this part in bold above ( last post quoted).

Chinese are far more pragmatic than most.

BTW, this must be among the few heated exchanges between Pakistani & Chinese poster here .

we never comment on their pathetic conditons, yet they had the nerve to point fingers at our internal affairs, who do they think they are?

Uighurs are not native to Xinjiang. I read somewhere some Chinese dynasty (Ming?) brought their loyal Uighur allies to the region after they defeated some hostile mongol tribes together. The Chinese let them settle there (southern Xinjiang?) to change the demographic balance in favor of pro Chinese ethnic groups. From this historical pov, present day Uighurs seem to be a bunch of ingrates.

@Chinese-Dragon @Kiss_of_the_Dragon

it should be mongol to bring them in xinjiang. when we han chinese lived in xinjiang 2000 years ago, there was even no islam, let alone uyghurs.

 

[third eye]

we never comment on their pathetic conditons, yet they had the nerve to point fingers at our internal affairs, who do they think they are?

Relax

Nothing of what we say here reflects on the policies / actions of our Govts.

Most of us here speak from shallow knowledge & short sighted opinions.

Just comment & move on.

 

[Maira La]

it should be mongol to bring them in xinjiang. when we han chinese lived in xinjiang 2000 years ago, there was even no islam, let alone uyghurs.

No it was the Han Chinese who let them in. They were allies with the Muslim Hui and Uighurs.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You share mutul intereest with us,Go fk off Pakistan helped china when everybody was trying to fk you from India to US and US to USSR,we are self dependent until 1971 your airlines were using our airspace to go into rest of world,remember you are surrounded by hostiles states all round...Chinese authority..bunch of commies killing thousand yearly....

Actually Ayub Khan made an offer of joint-defence to India AGAINST China.

Bhutto's foreign policy legacy - DAWN.COM

The roots of Pakistan's strategic relationship with China go back to the India-China clashes in October 1959 in Ladakh. Bhutto was then leading Pakistan's delegation at the UN General Assembly.

He was alarmed at President Ayub Khan's offer of joint defence to India. Bhutto felt that only those unlettered in international affairs could believe that such an offer would be accepted. In fact, it was more likely to incur the hostility of China which had so far, despite our membership of anti-communist western alliances, refrained from criticising Pakistan.

Which was Pakistan's loss, since after China comprehensively defeated India 1962, Pakistan could have retaken Kashmir without a fight. Instead they preferred to side with India.

 

[Nan Yang]

The denial of Ramadan fasting by Chinese authorities in Uighuristan in condemnable. The Ccommunist authorites have destroyed mosques and Muslum monuments in order to destroy native Uighur culture. Millions of ethnic Hans are being settled in Uighuristan in order to change its ethnic balance in order to to make native Uighurs a minority.

Not entirely true. There are over 20,000 mosque in Xinjiang.

Xinjiang’s mosques have grown ten-fold - Global Times

Uighurs are not native to Xinjiang. I read somewhere some Chinese dynasty (Ming?) brought their loyal Uighur allies to the region after they defeated some hostile mongol tribes together. The Chinese let them settle there (southern Xinjiang?) to change the demographic balance in favor of pro Chinese ethnic groups. From this historical pov, present day Uighurs seem to be a bunch of ingrates.

@Chinese-Dragon @Kiss_of_the_Dragon

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The Qing dynasty gained control over eastern Xinjiang as a result of a long struggle with the Zunghars that began in the seventeenth century. In 1755, the Qing attacked Ghulja, and captured the Zunghar khan. Over the next two years, Qing armies destroyed the remnants of the Zunghar khanate and colonised parts of Xinjiang with Han and Hui Chinese.

It has been estimated that more than half of the Dzunghar population were killed by illness or the military campaigns. One writer, Wei Yuan, described the resulting desolation in what is now northern Xinjiang as: "In an area stretching to several thousand li, there was not a yurt except those who have surrendered." Some of the surviving Dzunghars fled to Russia and Kazakh Khanate.
End Quote

Southern Xinjiang or the Tarim Basin is where the Uigher settled and they are still a majority there.

 

[Beast]

I cant believe so many people taken in by those fabricated lies of China persecuting Uyghur muslim? Especially things from DAWN abt China are all fakes news. They are run by some ultralist who just deem to bash Pakistan and anything including China.

Let me give an example.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...s-Ramadan-fast-in-mainly-Muslim-Xinjiang.html

And the truth is...

China envoy denies Xinjiang Muslims banned from fasting – Bernama - The Malaysian Insider

You can see the amount of fabricated news against China is so much that its even not worth reading... Only idiots will get taken in by fake news. You want to be idiot and believe China is against Islam. Go ahead, nobody is stopping you to be an idiot.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You share mutul intereest with us,Go fk off Pakistan helped china when everybody was trying to fk you from India to US and US to USSR,we are self dependent until 1971 your airlines were using our airspace to go into rest of world,remember you are surrounded by hostiles states all round...Chinese authority..bunch of commies killing thousand yearly....

@Chinese-Dragon @Kiss_of_the_Dragon @Genesis
I would like to know your views about above comment.

It's BS obviously.

Like I posted before, Ayub Khan actually made an offer of joint defence to India... AGAINST China.

So no, they didn't help us when India attacked us during 1962 during our worst ever famine. In fact they sided with India instead.

Bhutto's foreign policy legacy - DAWN.COM

The roots of Pakistan's strategic relationship with China go back to the India-China clashes in October 1959 in Ladakh. Bhutto was then leading Pakistan's delegation at the UN General Assembly.

He was alarmed at President Ayub Khan's offer of joint defence to India. Bhutto felt that only those unlettered in international affairs could believe that such an offer would be accepted. In fact, it was more likely to incur the hostility of China which had so far, despite our membership of anti-communist western alliances, refrained from criticising Pakistan.

Which was their biggest mistake. If they had sided with China during the 1962 war, they would have been able to take Kashmir from an already defeated India.