China order 123 AL-31

[houshanghai]

Well, it seems China will be stock in copying Russian technologies rather than to start jumping to something more innovative and reliable.

you are wrong.

ws10 is a copy from your usa.

 

[mhb56]

If so, how did you get access to one of our most guarded technologies?

 

[houshanghai]

If so, how did you get access to one of our most guarded technologies?

it is not a difficult thing that we get your usa 's aircraft engine from other countires.

 

[mhb56]

Well i guess China rising is just a smoke screen. No hi-tech innovation whatsoever. There is a reason why Japan is the favorite of Asia.

 

[Zabaniyah]

If so, how did you get access to one of our most guarded technologies?

China imported the CFM International CFM56 engines from the USA back in the early 80s. From there, they studied and started developing their own engines. Nothing really, 'top secret' about those engines

The abandon of WS-6 project did do not mean that China gives up independent aircraft engine manufacture. In 1980, China started to implement a plan, High Performance Propulsion System Preliminary Development (HPPSPD), to focus on basic research on engine components. March 29th 1982, US famous "Aviation & Space Technology Week" had a report with title of "China Waiting for CFM-56II Turbofan Exportation". The report said that China purchase 2 CFM-56II Turbofan engines to exchange China's Trident airliners' old ones. U.S. DOD (Department of Defense) worried about this exportation, because CFM-56 is based on the core of the F101-GE-102 engine which was used in B-1B Lancer Bomber. Despite of the dissidence, U.S. government still authorized this exportation in 1980s' Sino-U.S. HoneyMoon Relation. Actually, some resources from China showed that the development of WS-10 just bases on the core engine from CFM-56. And WS-10's final object, is F110 engine. WS-10 project got directly supports from top leader of China. In January 1986, Deng Xiaoping passed a new plan on China's Turbofan engine development. One year later, 606 with its attached department formally initial the development of WS-10, code name Taihang, for China's third generation fighter J-10.

Source: This is the real face of Taihang (WS-10) Turbofan Engine! | China Military Power Mashup

 

[houshanghai]

ws10 is only china's first step in aircraft engine area.


ws15 will be NO1. aircraft engine fully from our own designing ideas

 

[mhb56]

Does China have any black projects like we do?

 

[below_freezing]

Well i guess China rising is just a smoke screen. No hi-tech innovation whatsoever. There is a reason why Japan is the favorite of Asia.

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How the hell do you "innovate" with jet engines when you can't even catch up? The only way to catch up is copy copy copy. You didn't learn calculus by inventing calculus again.

 

[mhb56]

Innovation have nothing to do with catching up with exited ideas, it simply called modification; while "innovation" is all about bringing new ideas. Why even bother to catch up, when you can easily switch to something else; there is no one way of flying. The possibility for new ideas in aviation is huge.

 

[HongWu]

Everything from Shenyang is using FWS10 now. It is Chengdu that doesn't like FWS10. It looks like Chengdu is going straight to the 5th generation 15 ton thrust engine on the J-20 prototype.

China is smartly diversifying its suppliers for 4th generation engines -- half domestic and half imported.

 

[S10]

Well, it seems China will be stock in copying Russian technologies rather than to start jumping to something more innovative and reliable.

If you weren't such a dumbass, WS-10A's core design is based on CMF56, not AL-31.

 

[S10]

Innovation have nothing to do with catching up with exited ideas, it simply called modification; while "innovation" is all about bringing new ideas. Why even bother to catch up, when you can easily switch to something else; there is no one way of flying. The possibility for new ideas in aviation is huge.

Why even bother posting? Since the retardedness from you is huge.

First batch of J-10A will need engine replacement soon since they entered service 6 years ago. While WS-10A has been certified for J-11B, it has not for J-10A.

 

[mhb56]

HAHAAHAHAh!!!!!!!LMAO!!!!

 

[Akasa]

There was a report a few years back that said that the J-10B was going to use the Al-31FN-M3 TVC engine.

And since the first batch of J-10B will be entering production this year, I have a feeling that this engine will be for it specifically.

 

[Akasa]

Well i guess China rising is just a smoke screen. No hi-tech innovation whatsoever. There is a reason why Japan is the favorite of Asia.

Facts don't lie.

China to lead global innovation by 2012 - Science - Thomson Reuters
China Poised to Become Global Innovation Leader - Thomson Reuters

Currently the world's 3rd largest technological innovator, has an annual growth of over 20% (higher than any other country), and is predicted to become the world's largest technological innovator in the coming years.