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It is better to develop your own. If you buy everything from outside, you are choked by the outsiders. Remember the AC debacle? Russia keeps raising the price and India has no way to counter.

There is merit in what you say.

However, when one has the money and there is an urgency, why wait till the indigenous weaponry is available?
 
you are choked- you say? but the world is opening itself to India while the world watches you ( china) with guarded outlook. you do know India is getting access to technology and weapons that are 20 years ahead of what china develops. :P

you should say "ahead of what china copies":flame::agree::taz:
 
There is merit in what you say.

However, when one has the money and there is an urgency, why wait till the indigenous weaponry is available?

India may have more money than Pakistan but I would have thought it had other priorities too. I think feeding the population and education should be more of a priority both Paks and indians should learn from the chinese in this regard,
 
you are choked- you say? but the world is opening itself to India while the world watches you ( china) with guarded outlook. you do know India is getting access to technology and weapons that are 20 years ahead of what china develops. :P

So far, even when India get open access to world weaponry market for so many years, how is your overall military technology compared with China???

When Russia asked you to pay more and more for your AC while delaying its finishing date times and times again, what did india do???

When Russia tried the same tricks with China, China simply told it No and we just produced on our own.

You should see the difference.
 
India may have more money than Pakistan but I would have thought it had other priorities too. I think feeding the population and education should be more of a priority both Paks and indians should learn from the chinese in this regard,

India's defence budget is 1.8% now .
While that of Pakistan's is. 2.5% .
Both the countries have normal defence budgets

India's GDP is 9 times that of Pakistan , so our defence budget will also be high
 
Indian navy will become a blue water navy soon by 2020

3 aircraft carriers (Vikramaditya, Vikrant Vishal,) possibly 4 if INS Viraat is refitted again

at least 4 Nuclear submarines of the Arihant class (possibly more with Arihant follow on class)

Stealth destroyers and Stealth frigates of the Shivalik class frigates & P-17A frigates and the Kolkata class destroyers
 
This is no needle to Chinese they are making their own. And the number of engineers they are producing its only a matter of time that all the hi tech stuff will come from there.

although I am a fan of chinese innovation as far as civillian projects are concerned...i'd like to state that much of the technology that China has her hands on right now has been collected through unfair methods.
Whether it was just or prudent or clever is open for discussion...but they did not honor contracts...reverse engineered and sold weaponry to other countries as their own...have been involved in patent infringement etc..
we have played fair...and have not been cut out from tech sharing from any powerful player in the market.
So the point is that while most countries would refrain from selling tech to china...we have access and ToTs coming our way.
I will give you an example...we worked on the Kaveri...and struggled.
The chinese are struggling with their engine for the J-20...
We got all the major companies to offer us ToT on their planes through the contract(MMRCA)...and the chinese are left on their own to struggle with a complicated technology...

To put it all into perspective...we play for the longer game.
 
India may have more money than Pakistan but I would have thought it had other priorities too. I think feeding the population and education should be more of a priority both Paks and indians should learn from the chinese in this regard,

Feeding population is not the direct work assigned to the GoI. Facilitating and equiping its country men to live and prosper is its prerogative.
 

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