China eyes US stocks chaos

[jhungary]

LOL. Almost 25%. 21% loss in your scam markets = $6 trillion GONE. More than three times China's losses.

And more losses are coming. We're looking at a recession.

Dude, the "HIGH" is from Oct 4, and the December Drop is got from 25,000 level to the bottom at 21,000 level.

Actual Dec decline is less than 16%

 

[Viet]

When did I say that?

I am teaching you on how stock price created; it is by market expectation and supply & demand, whie monitoring nor volatility has nothing to do with it - as you thought. Stock market doesn't work like vegetable or fish market, holidays wont drop the price. LOL

Market expectation, estimated future earnings, supply & demand, heard instinct and sentiment determine share prices.

 

[jhungary]

And what you really posted just again:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...cord-high-in-june.567700/page-2#post-10639626
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...cord-high-in-june.567700/page-2#post-10640390
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...cord-high-in-june.567700/page-3#post-10640495

I love how you can't help but just repeat the entire conjured bullsh*t you pulled out of your a** before and just flagrantly deny any fault down to your f*ck up of something as rudimentary as identifying a corporation by its legal name and a security listed under that name while trying to judge unrelated stocks by a single quote, even as the tiny market cap should have rung alarm bells to the simplest layman on top of the simply wrong company name you carefully trimmed out of your "what I said" spin of your own words, omitting the part you got wrong, causing this entire ordeal in the first round where your bullsh*t has been called out and everything that needs to be said has already been repeatedly explained so far down to the essentials, it's clear you have to know next to nothing about trading, trade regulations, trademark laws or even basic corporate laws, neither in practice nor in theory, to even get the idea this could have passed a screening of eyes that do know exactly what you are trying to talk about and still tout the "I don't really care" line.
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What a circle jerk comment. In the end, you have said NOTHING.

How I know next to nothing on "Trading, Trade Regulation, Trademark Law" knowledge? You have not say a word on it, yeah, just because you said so and then I don't know shit about what I talk about?

That's the reason why you people are ONLY EVER active in this section of a forum, circle jerk need friends, and without friends, there can not be a circle jerk, and you know if you go outside of this section, you lot will be ridicule by the whole lot.

Me? I am not a fan of Circle Jerk, if you think I know shit about anything, that's up to you, it does not change the whole truth one bit, people have eyes and brain to see who's word weighted more. You are even worst than @antonius123 , at least he put up a fake fight, which you only sit there and do nothing.

He said "price of DJI". No, that's ok. No, it's not like saying the index is actually a stock. It's not even ambiguous in context of his post. This is just conjured bullsh*t by someone who doesn't know what he is talking about and trying to deflect his f*ck ups. Don't come here calling the earth flat and expect people to stoop down and argue about that. No. Rejected.

But let's assume you where splitting hairs over semantics out of ignorance and not just talking out of your a** with an eyewash of poorly paraphrased Google non-sequitur blubber, that leaves to question you have even understood what you just parotted and what the DJI is (i.e. how it's calculated) and have a grasp what the Average even refers/referred to:
You inversely asserted he could only be referring to "tradeable stock" because he said "price", and you came to the conclusion he referred to a stock that is not tradeable and has no price because it doesn't even exist as the company no one was talking about and remains unrelated to the discussion is private?
You didn't consider that he just used the (only in your mind) incorrect term and referred to the index, which recently went up again as he described?
You didn't consider DJI options, DJI futures or any other securities going by the name DJI?
You didn't consider just asking what he could be referring to, instead of risking to look like an idiot?
You came to the conclusion that he referred to something that he could not have referred to, unless you also assume he doesn't know he can't refer to it and held him responsible and insulted him on the assumption of not knowing he can't refer to something you assumed he must have referred to?

You do realize that excuse is even dumber than just not thinking it through at all, jumping to the conclusion that he meant whatever came first to your mind and insulting him for something that happend recently to yourself? I mean I laid it out so a squirrel can understand what's wrong.


As for that DJI/DIJA bullsh*t. There I pondered if a Yuan/RMB comparison would be too unfair, but we already reached depths far beyond that. How you manage to utter words like "everyone knows" and "always" in the presence of such bullsh*t is incomprehensible. DJI is especially common in Academia because when I can hereafter whatever I want anyways I'm not going to add 100 redundant A's. While journalism and trade tend to use Dow and ticker its not void of it either. You'd have to walk blind through every news thread you drop your unqualified opinions on and never read financial news ticker, market watchers, analysts or economic papers to avoid it. This is getting too retarded to engage.

Lol calling me retard and insult does not make you smarter, it make you desperate.

@Slav Defence @waz @The Eagle

lol, you show you know nothing about the topic at hand by comparing DJI/DJIA and RMB/Yuan, RMB and Yuan both point to the currency, while RMB is the Chinese name (人民币) Yuan is the denomination. That have nothing even similar to the relationship between DJI and DJIA

On a side note, Dow Jones is NOT traded under Symbol DJI, it's ^DJI. NASDAQ 100 is not traded under Symbol NDX, it's ^NDX, Apple, on the other hand, traded under Symbol AAPL. Now you tell me the different.

It's easy to write a lot going around in a circle. Rest o your post? I probably wouldn't read it if you pay me, it's a giant waste of my time.

 

[Viet]

LOL. Almost 25%. 21% loss in your scam markets = $6 trillion GONE. More than three times China's losses.

And more losses are coming. We're looking at a recession.

Wow that is a blood bath. The US is richer let’s see how long China can afford such a war of attrition. Good luck.

 

[antonius123]

@jhungary
I hope NOW you have learned: that DJI refer to DJIA and it has price, because previously you didn't know what DJI and the price I also hope you have learned that holidays won't necessarily make stock price dip as you thought.

In fact, you can learn many things in china & far east pdf forum from others, as long as you are humble enough, not presumptuous, and open minded.

 

[jhungary]

@jhungary
I hope NOW you have learned: that DJI refer to DJIA and it has price, because previously you didn't know what DJI and the price I also hope you have learned that holidays won't necessarily make stock price dip as you thought.

In fact, you can learn many things in china & far east pdf forum from others, as long as you are humble enough, not presumptuous, and open minded.

Lol, and you haven't learn a things. Because you seems to ignore ONE OF MY MAJOR QUESTION.

This topic is about Dow Jones taking a hit BEFORE Christmas.

Let's for argument sake, you are right, DJI mean Dow Jones, but then you come to me with a reference saying price increase of DJI laugh at my fantasy.

Yet, if you are talking about Dow Jones, you SHOULD ALREADY had know that the topic in itself is telling its reader Dow Jones is taking a hit, which mean your argument "Price increase of DJI laugh at my fantasy" illogical, because as WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOW JONES taking a hit during Christmas.

If I have to guess, you jump on the first one you find and for you, and you found DJI, (Which you don't know ^DJI mean dow jones industrial average itself, you assume that is the Drone company DJI_ and use that as an example to prove me wrong, your plan back fire and you realise ^DJI actually mean Dow Jones and WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOW JONES drop during holiday seasons.

By the way, I have been involve with stock trading since 2010, know quite a few broker, and nobody refer DJI as Dow Jones, but hey, believe it or not is up to you.

Anyway, as I said, I am not that into circle jerk, unlike you, I have a job, I got paid to do stuff, and I have to work for a living. Something probably a 12 years old like you don't understand, but hey, if you think I know shit, I don't mind, it does not change the fact one bits because people will still me as an authority and see you as nobody. But if that make you sleep well at night and have a nightly orgy with you friend here on PDF, why not?

 

[antonius123]

Lol, and you haven't learn a things. Because you seems to ignore ONE OF MY MAJOR QUESTION.

This topic is about Dow Jones taking a hit BEFORE Christmas.

Let's for argument sake, you are right, DJI mean Dow Jones, but then you come to me with a reference saying price increase of DJI laugh at my fantasy.

Yet, if you are talking about Dow Jones, you SHOULD ALREADY had know that the topic in itself is telling its reader Dow Jones is taking a hit, which mean your argument "Price increase of DJI laugh at my fantasy" illogical, because as WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOW JONES taking a hit during Christmas.

LOL. ^DJI taking hits during christmas in fact is not in line with your opinion claiming that market price dip during holidays, and amazingly you still don realize in spite of extensive explanation given to you. [emoji23]

If I have to guess, you jump on the first one you find and for you, and you found DJI, (Which you don't know ^DJI mean dow jones industrial average itself, you assume that is the Drone company DJI_ and use that as an example to prove me wrong, your plan back fire and you realise ^DJI actually mean Dow Jones and WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOW JONES drop during holiday seasons.

LOL. Of course it is stupid guess from you.

DJI drone company is not traded yet in stock market, and it doesnt take a genius to see i was speaking about US stock market Dow Jones when i was debunking you [emoji38]

By the way, I have been involve with stock trading since 2010, know quite a few broker, and nobody refer DJI as Dow Jones, but hey, believe it or not is up to you.

I have been since 2005.

If you refer nobody as your friends then no wonder, but people in the market know ^DJI is Dow Jones, not S&P [emoji23]

Anyway, as I said, I am not that into circle jerk, unlike you, I have a job, I got paid to do stuff, and I have to work for a living. Something probably a 12 years old like you don't understand, but hey, if you think I know shit, I don't mind, it does not change the fact one bits because people will still me as an authority and see you as nobody. But if that make you sleep well at night and have a nightly orgy with you friend here on PDF, why not?

The only circle jerk that i see here is YOU. You make small and simple things become complicated just in order to show off or defend your baseless claim.

It wouldn't take pages to accept that stock price is determined by market expectation not volatility or holidays, but you drive things into circling argumentations.

 

[TheTruth]

Dude, the "HIGH" is from Oct 4, and the December Drop is got from 25,000 level to the bottom at 21,000 level.

Actual Dec decline is less than 16%

From 26800 to 21800 to 23000.

And it's going to drop some more. Still 4.5 trillion gone.

 

[TaiShang]

Wall Street ends its worst year since financial crisis

CGTN
2019-01-01

The U.S. stock market concluded its worst year since the global financial crisis on Monday following a late-season collapse that also raised doubts about the prospects for 2019.

Major indices notched modest gains in the year's final session, but it barely made a dent compared with the rest of December, the market's worst month in nearly a decade.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished the final session with a gain of 1.2 percent, but finished 2018 with loss of 5.6 percent compared to the end of 2017. The S&P 500 dropped 6.2 percent and the Nasdaq 3.9 percent.

That was after a year in which their indices jumped 25.1 percent, 19.4 percent and 28.2 percent. Wall Street marked the longest-ever "bull market" in August, a run that began amid extraordinary crisis-era monetary policy but for which Trump has claimed credit after his tax cuts and regulatory rollbacks.

The market confidence did not last due to slowing global growth, Italy's fiscal woes, a U.S. government shutdown and Trump's attacks on the Fed, the declines rapidly accelerated in the final weeks of 2018, erasing all the gains since January.

A U.S. government shutdown over Trump's desire to fund a wall along the border with Mexico extended into 2019 also has dented sentiment, especially amid signs economic growth has peaked.

Return to recession?

"To be clear, the challenges we see ahead don't look to us like the makings of another financial crisis," JPMorgan Private Bank said in a recent investor note.

"Our base case assumes slowing growth in the U.S. economy throughout 2019 and a moderate recession in 2020," it continued.

"2018 has been characterized by a shift from low volatility, high liquidity and expectations of equity out-performance to high volatility, low liquidity and the return of a bear market in equities," said VTB Capital economist Neil MacKinnon.

"For 2019, a global economic slowdown, perhaps recession, looks increasingly likely," he warned.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d674e34457a4e31457a6333566d54/share_p.html