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The census 2017 is over and we have the provisional results. As expected there are complaints from some about the accuracy of the census. In Pakistan o such exercise can be expectd to be completed without some complaints - mostly from the losers. As in all such endeavours there is going to be "winners and losers". The losing side will start croaking as soon as they smell things might have not gone their way.
I was reading in Dawn the process of the census. What I was impressed about was how the army was used. Contrary to my assumption Pakistan Army did not just act as security but actually provided one side to the two pronged survey. The survey involved civilian staffers of PBS who did their counting on their papers. The military had it's own forms and soldiers did their own counting. Therefore we had two independant censuses being carried out simultanously but independantly of each other. The civilian PBS and the most trusted organization in Pakistan. The army.
This was done because it was felt PBS staffer would be open to local or provincial manipulation. So by running a separate census simultanously by the army both would act as to balance out any "mistakes". Quote -
"He explains the role of the army as “keeping a countercheck on the civilian side because we can’t be trusted with a headcount.”
“the civilian dispensation is simply interested in doing a headcount; the army is being brought on board to lend credibility and they are doing their own headcount through an independent form printed by PBS for that purpose. If the results are not reliable and not comparable to other data collected, then the onus lies with the PBS.”
"Separate forms to the tune of 55 million to be completed by the army will be stored with the military when the exercise has finished and in the case of identification of any differences they will cross check results with the forms completed by enumerators says PBS"
https://www.dawn.com/news/1313981/p...why-this-extensive-exercise-will-be-defective
Therefore we now know that the army filled out it's own forms, collated them and stored 55 million of them to validate and cross referance the PBS headcounts. COAS Gen. Bajwa loaned 200,000 soldiers for the task which was more then the civilian enumerators. It is therefore safe to conclude that census 2017 carries Pakistan Army validation. Indeed that is why the army was brought in. Not only did it provide security but it ran a parallel headcount.
Given this I am apt to think that Census 2017 was as good as could be expected in a country like Pakistan. What I want to know is why are people still dismissing this census? What would be neutral umpire? Indian Army? United Nations Force? Or the guys who are complaining should have done the survey? I want to hear from those who are not happy to address the points I raised and if they are not satisfied even with the Pakistan Army validation what would their proposal be? Are they questioning the armies credibility? Or COAS Bajwa?
@Joe Shearer Can you please, if you have time read this up and see if there are any glaring methodological flaws - keeping in mind this is Pakistan and not Norway. Your impartial input would be appreciated by me.
I was reading in Dawn the process of the census. What I was impressed about was how the army was used. Contrary to my assumption Pakistan Army did not just act as security but actually provided one side to the two pronged survey. The survey involved civilian staffers of PBS who did their counting on their papers. The military had it's own forms and soldiers did their own counting. Therefore we had two independant censuses being carried out simultanously but independantly of each other. The civilian PBS and the most trusted organization in Pakistan. The army.
This was done because it was felt PBS staffer would be open to local or provincial manipulation. So by running a separate census simultanously by the army both would act as to balance out any "mistakes". Quote -
"He explains the role of the army as “keeping a countercheck on the civilian side because we can’t be trusted with a headcount.”
“the civilian dispensation is simply interested in doing a headcount; the army is being brought on board to lend credibility and they are doing their own headcount through an independent form printed by PBS for that purpose. If the results are not reliable and not comparable to other data collected, then the onus lies with the PBS.”
"Separate forms to the tune of 55 million to be completed by the army will be stored with the military when the exercise has finished and in the case of identification of any differences they will cross check results with the forms completed by enumerators says PBS"
https://www.dawn.com/news/1313981/p...why-this-extensive-exercise-will-be-defective
Therefore we now know that the army filled out it's own forms, collated them and stored 55 million of them to validate and cross referance the PBS headcounts. COAS Gen. Bajwa loaned 200,000 soldiers for the task which was more then the civilian enumerators. It is therefore safe to conclude that census 2017 carries Pakistan Army validation. Indeed that is why the army was brought in. Not only did it provide security but it ran a parallel headcount.
Given this I am apt to think that Census 2017 was as good as could be expected in a country like Pakistan. What I want to know is why are people still dismissing this census? What would be neutral umpire? Indian Army? United Nations Force? Or the guys who are complaining should have done the survey? I want to hear from those who are not happy to address the points I raised and if they are not satisfied even with the Pakistan Army validation what would their proposal be? Are they questioning the armies credibility? Or COAS Bajwa?
@Joe Shearer Can you please, if you have time read this up and see if there are any glaring methodological flaws - keeping in mind this is Pakistan and not Norway. Your impartial input would be appreciated by me.
