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British pakistanis?

Where are you from?

  • Punjab

    Votes: 8 44.4%
  • KPK

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Sindh

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Balochistan

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • AJK

    Votes: 5 27.8%

  • Total voters
    18
They adopt to western lifestyle. Forget language. Eat pork. A lot of them even drink alcohol. They dress proactively and use many bad words when they speak. It seems like they transform to pigs. In US there might be a few Pakistanis that tend to act white and change their culture, but overall I feel like US Pakistanis are closer to the nation and religion.

@Moonlight
its called integration
 
@Saif al-Arab

I'd like to mention you. Don't think I'm going to forget you boy.

Regarding religion:

Pakistanis in US don't eat any meat that is not halal. We will avoid fast food and places that are not halal certified. When it comes to Arabs from any country, they will eat anything as long as it is not pork. This is something I've noticed. Pakistanis are very vigilant about eating haram, but Arabs that live in US are very lax. My Arab friends will eat Mcdonalds burger beef, while I do not. I wonder why that is. It seems Arab people are very liberal in their Islam when it comes to halal or haram meat. They just don't eat pig.
 
@Saif al-Arab

I'd like to mention you. Don't think I'm going to forget you boy.

Regarding religion:

Pakistanis in US don't eat any meat that is not halal. We will avoid fast food and places that are not halal certified. When it comes to Arabs from any country, they will eat anything as long as it is not pork. This is something I've noticed. Pakistanis are very vigilant about eating haram, but Arabs that live in US are very lax. My Arab friends will eat Mcdonalds burger beef, while I do not. I wonder why that is. It seems Arab people are very liberal in their Islam when it comes to halal or haram meat. They just don't eat pig.

:cheesy:

Correct me if I am not wrong bro but around half of the 3.5 million Arabs in the US or so, are Christian. That might be the reason. Also it is a general trend for the diaspora to be more lax. I think that the foreign students from the Arab world (mostly GCC but not only) are more like back home. At least I was.

BTW I just thanked your posts because I want to see a bit of firework in this thread.:rofl:

But if British Pakistanis are anything close to British Arabs it is save to say that they are a mixed bunch.

its called integration

Integration and assimilation is not the same thing. What our friend described sounds more like complete assimilation. I don't think that this should be the goal for any person unless they want to lose their own culture. A healthy mixture is the best solution and I have witnessed that a lot in person. I know a couple of people (Arabs and non-Arabs) born in the West who when they were younger were embarrassed when their parents spoke to them in their native tongues in public and they tended not to speak much in their native tongues when they reached the age of teenagers. Now when older they regret this as their Arabic, Urdu etc. is not as good as it could have been. Some due to such behavior never really learn their parents native tongue (and their own) (worst case scenario) and when they become parents they regret it as they cannot give this language to their newborns. That's a bad thing IMO. But each to his own.
 
:cheesy:

Correct me if I am not wrong bro but around half of the 3.5 million Arabs in the US or so, are Christian. That might be the reason. Also it is a general trend for the diaspora to be more lax. I think that the foreign students from the Arab world (mostly GCC but not only) are more like back home. At least I was.

BTW I just thanked your posts because I want to see a bit of firework in this thread.:rofl:

But if British Pakistanis are anything close to British Arabs it is save to say that they are a mixed bunch.



Integration and assimilation is not the same thing. What our friend described sounds more like complete assimilation. I don't think that this should be the goal for any person unless they want to lose their own culture. A healthy mixture is the best solution and I have witnessed that a lot in person. I know a couple of people (Arabs and non-Arabs) born in the West who when they were younger were embarrassed when their parents spoke to them in their native tongues in public and they tended not to speak much in their native tongues when they reached the age of teenagers. Now when older they regret this as their Arabic, Urdu etc. is not as good as it could have been. Some due to such behavior never really learn their parents native tongue (and their own) (worst case scenario) and when they become parents they regret it as they cannot give this language to their newborns. That's a bad thing IMO.


Bro, I'm talking about US Arabs I meet at mosque. Super religious, but they have no problem eating at fast food places where meat is not halal. Pakistanis are different. Our parents are like, If you eat something that is not halal, you are disowned. Or If you drink alcohol. :lol:
 
Bro, I'm talking about US Arabs I meet at mosque. Super religious, but they have no problem eating at fast food places where meat is not halal. Pakistanis are different. Our parents are like, If you eat something that is not halal, you are disowned. Or If you drink alcohol. :lol:

Same story here bro. Such behavior is frowned upon by the average Muslim Arab family. Those type of Arabs (Muslims as a whole) are probably those that cannot live a day without eating unhealthy food (fast food, sweets) etc. They don't realize what they are doing due to their greedy stomach. If it was up to me, I would ban all fast food stores in the GCC, Arab world and even entire Muslim world. It's a tragedy overall (IMO) what this fast food (ever since it appeared big time in the early 1990's) did to many people in terms of them becoming overweight and suffering from many obesity related diseases. I hate it and I have not visited a fast food store since I was 10 or 11 years old when my mother used to take us to a local McDonalds because we begged her to buy us some happy meals or whatever it is called. You know the ones with "presents" in them. Anyway I take pride in that fact, lol.

Anyway I have heard from some Pakistani friends in person that a large percentage of British Pakistanis are more conservative than the average Pakistani back home. I find that hard to believe. Is something like that possible among US Pakistanis? I would have believed that you guys were more lax it being the US and all. Especially post 9/11.
 
Same story here bro. Such behavior is frowned upon by the average Muslim Arab family. Those type of Arabs (Muslims as a whole) are probably those that cannot live a day without eating unhealthy food (fast food, sweets) etc. They don't realize what they are doing due to their greedy stomach. If it was up to me, I would ban all fast food stores in the GCC, Arab world and even entire Muslim world. It's a tragedy overall (IMO) what this fast food (ever since it appeared big time in the early 1990's) did to many people in terms of them becoming overweight and suffering from many obesity related diseases. I hate it and I have not visited a fast food store since I was 10 or 11 years old. I take pride in that, lol.

Anyway I have heard from some Pakistani friends in person that a large percentage of British Pakistanis are more conservative than the average Pakistani back home. I find that hard to believe. Is something like that possible among US Pakistanis? I would have believed that you guys were more lax it being the US and all. Especially post 9/11.

US Pakistanis are cultural and very chill. Most follow Islam in a way that is not too much, but neither they break any principles of Islam. There are some Pakistanis that pretend to act like they are white just to fit in with white people, so they will renounce their religion just because they found a white girlfriend. These kind of people we don't even spit on, and they generally don't even consider themselves Pakistanis after they meet a white girl, so it doesn't matter.
 
They adopt to western lifestyle. Forget language. Eat pork. A lot of them even drink alcohol. They dress proactively and use many bad words when they speak. It seems like they transform to pigs. In US there might be a few Pakistanis that tend to act white and change their culture, but overall I feel like US Pakistanis are closer to the nation and religion.

@Moonlight

wut are you smoking? Last month I was in London for a week to attend couple of wedding and didn't feel that at all. Now I know they are not better or worse then any other Pakistani out there including the ones in USA.
 
Bro, I'm talking about US Arabs I meet at mosque. Super religious, but they have no problem eating at fast food places where meat is not halal. Pakistanis are different. Our parents are like, If you eat something that is not halal, you are disowned. Or If you drink alcohol. :lol:


I concur. I used to hang out with few arabs back in college days. They seems to be less in Islam and more in American popular culture. These nutcase even pick a English nick name, wallahi...:disagree:

@Saif al-Arab
 
I concur. I used to hang out with few arabs back in college days. They seems to be less in Islam and more in American popular culture. These nutcase even pick a English nick name, wallahi...:disagree:

@Saif al-Arab

Calling out for my bro @Falcon29 to clear this confusion.:lol:

I only studied in the US for some time so I am not an authority on how Arab Americans behave as I have only engaged with a few of them while studying in the US. But honestly (no bias here) I would be surprised to hear that they are (on average) much different to the average Muslim American. You will have a few bad apples (depending on your world view) and then the average Ali, Muhammad, Abdullah, Ibrahim etc. doing his thing. I might be wrong here but that was at least the impression I got when in the US.

Maybe they have watched too many videos of that Yemeni American dude with that popular Youtube channel. Can't recall his name right now.:lol: The one that has a extremely cute niece. Reema I think is her name.

Going to google a bit. Wait a second.

Talk about a Yemeni face.:lol:



 
Forget language. Eat pork. A lot of them even drink alcohol. They dress proactively and use many bad words when they speak. It seems like they transform to pigs.
Wine and pork? We Pakistanis are eating dead cows, donkeys, dogs, crows and everything butchers can find and sale in the name of Halal here in Pakistan. Wine? In Pakistan, there is no Halal control department, and if there is any, its all corruption. You can sale people pig biryani with the tag "Bakra biryani".
Language? Are we proud of our language? Every Pakistani is proud to send his/her children to English medium. Look at our language now. Its half something and half other thing, but not pure urdu anymore. And Urdu? yeh tu Karachi k bhioon ki zaban hai. Asseen tay punjabi bolnay aan. In URDU, from litrature to research, everything is either almost dead, or fully dead.
Religion? Right from madrasa to everything in religion, everything is now a commodity. We dont have national Quraan printing press. Syllabi are now fully de-religion. Madrasa system is near collapse. The biggest Madrasa of Pakistan are getting funding from UN and EU, so what will they teach?
Pakistan is destroyed within. Its better to run away from a rotting corpse of a dead civilization.
Ham yahan Pakistan main aik dosry ko uska haq nahi dyrahay. Her roz is bat ki behas hoti hai keh Punjabi ziada civilised hai ya Mahajir?
Stay away, there are many many good places around the world.
 
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They adopt to western lifestyle. Forget language. Eat pork. A lot of them even drink alcohol. They dress proactively and use many bad words when they speak. It seems like they transform to pigs. In US there might be a few Pakistanis that tend to act white and change their culture, but overall I feel like US Pakistanis are closer to the nation and religion.

@Moonlight
How do you know, have you ever went to the UK and investigated it for yourself?
 
Calling out for my bro @Falcon29 to clear this confusion.:lol:

I only studied in the US for some time so I am not an authority on how Arab Americans behave as I have only engaged with a few of them while studying in the US. But honestly (no bias here) I would be surprised to hear that they are (on average) much different to the average Muslim American. You will have a few bad apples (depending on your world view) and then the average Ali, Muhammad, Abdullah, Ibrahim etc. doing his thing. I might be wrong here but that was at least the impression I got when in the US.

Most of them I knew were with student visa.

What makes me angry is that you guys understand Quran and Hadith more than us yet do all the things that is supposed to be haram for us.
 

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