Britain will not remain in Europe 'come what may', David Cameron says

[Aepsilons]

Britain is not prepared to remain in Europe "come what may" and Brussels needs to address people's concerns about immigration, David Cameron has said.

The Prime Minister said that "proper" controls on immigration are needed including reforms to movement within the European Union.

He said that Britain will not be "ordered around" by other European Union countries in the single currency union.

He told the Confederation of British Industry: "Britain will only succeed in Europe if we are a strong economy.

"From your economic strength comes a lot of your power in international engagement.


"You never get anywhere in life unless you have a clear strategy and plan.

"Frankly, Britain's future in Europe matters to our country and it isn't working for us at the moment and that's why we need to make changes.

"[We want to] belong to a Europe that addresses people's concerns, including concerns about immigration.

"Simply standing here saying I will stay in Europe and stick with Europe come what may is not a strategy, is not a plan and that won't work."

On immigration, he added: "We need to have proper immigration control. We need to do more, both outside the European Union and, frankly, inside the European Union.

"But the flipside of the coin on immigration is a welfare system that rewards work and an education system that turns out people with the skills necessary to do the jobs that we are creating in our country today.

"No immigration policy will succeed unless it's accompanied by that welfare and that education reform as well."


Britain will not remain in Europe 'come what may', David Cameron says - Telegraph

 

[Jungibaaz]

Parties like UKIP taking their toll. Anyone who says this isn't influenced by the rise of right is wrong, immigration is an issue, but it's really made into something else by the right, UKIP aren't a lone, a little further down the spectrum you have the parade of fools and confused individuals represented by Britain first, English democrats, the BNP.

@Steve781 @Jaanbaz

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

hmmm ....I suppose its never good idea to have few hard working countries and lot of lazy countries grouped into one

 

[Steve781]

hmmm ....I suppose its never good idea to have few hard working countries and lot of lazy countries grouped into one

I wouldn't really call Britain "hard working" in comparison to countries like Germany, The Netherlands or Scandinavia but we are certainly helping carry the countries of the Mediterranean.
Anyway, Cameron doesn't actually mean what he's saying. He's just worried about losing votes.

 

[Jungibaaz]

hmmm ....I suppose its never good idea to have few hard working countries and lot of lazy countries grouped into one

That's not exactly how the EU works. But if it wasn't mutually beneficial, Germany, France, Britain would not be in. There's a reason we haven't budged yet.

And I don't think Britain will leave the EU. This is most likely just pre-election rhetoric by the Tories and David Cameron, they're feeling pressure from former supporters and current UKIP supporters.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Its k we all know UK folks work hardest and most other countries in Europe are slackers

Its for best that UK went its own way , why pay bills for slacker countries in EU

Average UK person works 12 hours a day , in France they work 6.5 hours a day ...

Clearly things have to change

 

[Gunsnroses]

Give him a big hand, ladies and gentlemen!

 

[Steakhouse]

Lack of money will ruin any union same with family or formation of nation.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Parties like UKIP taking their toll. Anyone who says this isn't influenced by the rise of right is wrong, immigration is an issue, but it's really made into something else by the right, UKIP aren't a lone, a little further down the spectrum you have the parade of fools and confused individuals represented by Britain first, English democrats, the BNP.

@Steve781 @Jaanbaz

He's feeling the heat from UKIP, BNP isn't a threat any more although Britain First is gaining some numbers on the streets. In the end its all about winning the next term.

Immigration is a big issue. Conservatives hasn't done anything about it either. Before the elections there was so much hue and cry about immigration, its only UKIP's rapid rise which has made Conservatives think about polices on immigration.

The real issues are increasing the minimum wage, rising gas and electricity bills which millions of old people and disadvantaged people cannot pay. No one is talking about these real important issues. UKIP has no idea how to deal with these issues either. They are gaining popularity mostly on immigration and general anger against the Tories and Lib Dems.

 

[Schutz]

Its k we all know UK folks work hardest and most other countries in Europe are slackers

Its for best that UK went its own way , why pay bills for slacker countries in EU

Average UK person works 12 hours a day , in France they work 6.5 hours a day ...

Clearly things have to change

I worked 7 to 7 yesterday in a job where im constantly moving, Tuesdays one of my two days off, could be worse I could be a farmer in a rural east Asian country but alas I am in the UK.

I dont care for UKIP or the EU but we should stay in it, just boot out countries who take to much and impose immigration quotas on most countries, I wouldn't put caps on Germans or Scandinavians or places like the Philippines where alot of nurses come from but they need to look at the countries of origin of people and what the average person from that counrty gives to the UK and then decide a cap. So for example if people here from say Bulgaria (using a vague one here to seem less insulting to the obvious ones) are a net drain on the economy and most who come here dont find work or the work they do find is only menial then they should be capped to a small number of people who are only professional.

 

[INDIC]

Britain is not prepared to remain in Europe "come what may" and Brussels needs to address people's concerns about immigration, David Cameron has said.

The Prime Minister said that "proper" controls on immigration are needed including reforms to movement within the European Union.

He said that Britain will not be "ordered around" by other European Union countries in the single currency union.

He told the Confederation of British Industry: "Britain will only succeed in Europe if we are a strong economy.

"From your economic strength comes a lot of your power in international engagement.


"You never get anywhere in life unless you have a clear strategy and plan.

"Frankly, Britain's future in Europe matters to our country and it isn't working for us at the moment and that's why we need to make changes.

"[We want to] belong to a Europe that addresses people's concerns, including concerns about immigration.

"Simply standing here saying I will stay in Europe and stick with Europe come what may is not a strategy, is not a plan and that won't work."

On immigration, he added: "We need to have proper immigration control. We need to do more, both outside the European Union and, frankly, inside the European Union.

"But the flipside of the coin on immigration is a welfare system that rewards work and an education system that turns out people with the skills necessary to do the jobs that we are creating in our country today.

"No immigration policy will succeed unless it's accompanied by that welfare and that education reform as well."


Britain will not remain in Europe 'come what may', David Cameron says - Telegraph

I saw many Brits not happy with idea of EU, those in East Europe and Scandinavia see EU integration with suspicion because of their history with the big European powers.

 

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Immigrants from Poland and the other nine countries that joined the EU in 2004 have contributed almost £5 billion more to the UK’s economy than they used in benefits and public services.

Analysis by the University College London Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration found that while the fiscal contribution by European workers was overwhelmingly positive – amounting to £20 billion in a decade – the same was not true for non-EEA arrivals.

Between 1995 and 2011, immigrants from outside the EU made a negative contribution of £118 billion over 17 years, the report found, using more publicly-funded services, including the NHS, education and benefits, than they paid in tax.

But native Britons also received more than they contributed in the same 17-year period – amounting to a cost of £591 billion as the national deficit grew - and European arrivals gave a £4.4 billion boost.

European immigrants contribute £5bn to UK economy but non-EU migrants 'cost £118bn' - Home News - UK - The Independent

oops, the uncomfortable truth has finally come out, and what was just hearsay, typically prescribed to xenophobic tendencies is now properly enumerated and available for everyone. I know especially @That Guy will enjoy it.

Perhaps Mr. Cameron needs a second look on immigration policy of his own, namely, importing people from outside the EU that just produce a negative drain. Or just a simple step of making his own citizens more productive.

A more detailed version of above: Positive economic impact of UK immigration from the European Union: new evidence

 

[flamer84]

I worked 7 to 7 yesterday in a job where im constantly moving, Tuesdays one of my two days off, could be worse I could be a farmer in a rural east Asian country but alas I am in the UK.

I dont care for UKIP or the EU but we should stay in it, just boot out countries who take to much and impose immigration quotas on most countries, I wouldn't put caps on Germans or Scandinavians or places like the Philippines where alot of nurses come from but they need to look at the countries of origin of people and what the average person from that counrty gives to the UK and then decide a cap. So for example if people here from say Bulgaria (using a vague one here to seem less insulting to the obvious ones) are a net drain on the economy and most who come here dont find work or the work they do find is only menial then they should be capped to a small number of people who are only professional.

Or,you could do what Germany did,stop giving hand outs to the unemployed from other countries.Perfectly legal and recently aprooved by the European Court of Justice.And than...stop moaning .

 

[Steve781]

I worked 7 to 7 yesterday in a job where im constantly moving, Tuesdays one of my two days off, could be worse I could be a farmer in a rural east Asian country but alas I am in the UK.

I dont care for UKIP or the EU but we should stay in it, just boot out countries who take to much and impose immigration quotas on most countries, I wouldn't put caps on Germans or Scandinavians or places like the Philippines where alot of nurses come from but they need to look at the countries of origin of people and what the average person from that counrty gives to the UK and then decide a cap. So for example if people here from say Bulgaria (using a vague one here to seem less insulting to the obvious ones) are a net drain on the economy and most who come here dont find work or the work they do find is only menial then they should be capped to a small number of people who are only professional.

Why the hell do you have the Egyptian flag up?

 

[Porus]

Britain is not prepared to remain in Europe "come what may" and Brussels needs to address people's concerns about immigration, David Cameron has said.

What is the point of issuing same statements every second day. If you want to get out of the EU then go - who is stopping you? He has been told quite clearly by Angela Merkel that free movement of people is the fundamental right guaranteed to every EU citizen and Germany will not tamper with this fundamental principle. Cameron has received the same messages from Scandinavian countries. If you don't like the rules then you can leave the club but the fundamentals principles cannot be changed according to your wishes.

This incessant propaganda against eastern Europeans is shameless and inhuman. The people who are coming form eastern European countries are young, educated, law-abiding and hard working. They are more prone to assimilate the local British culture than many other groups of people coming form outside of the EU. The only reason they are being demonized is their right to unemployment benefits. They prefer immigrants from their former colonies whose people have very limited rights in countries like UK. It takes them normally 8 to 10 years to become eligible for the indefinite leave to remain in the UK. During this period of time they do every kind of dirty work at the lowest wages and have no right to ask Her Majesty' government for any kind of financial help.