BREAKING: PAF base Mianwali under attack, suicide bombers and heavy weapons in use

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That is why I always say good ... must get control back of ... from these nutcases.

JaneBhiDeYaara

is type ki posting mat kar.. pink kar denge, yaara

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[SaadH]

It's because India doesn't have anyone amongst them as beghairat as the Afghans

You need to seek some professional help, both medical and academic...

Surely there's no one more beghairat by a country mile than the fat bellied p0rn producing generals of GHQ.

 

[CivilianSupremacy]

They were the phased out ones, just airframes, not airworthy, right, as per ISPR??

Also are they lightly damaged or completely destroyed??

LOL! Who on their right mind can believe ISPR? The one outlet which is proven time and again to lie.

None of the phased-out aircrafts were touched. See Map applications, See the videos posted by terrorists and see for yourself, I believe F-7s were already phased out, Airforce keeps only active aircrafts in the hangars and over the ramps. So there were F-7PGs.

Videos are openly showing large scale destruction. Should I count it for you all guys in the frame by frame motion. ?? Multiple F-7PGs inside HAS and multiple on Ramp are destroyed. Way more than 4!

Only below frame from the video is showing at minimum 4 aircrafts destroyed. They are in addition to ones destroyed in the hardened hangars. The video showing atleast 6-8 aircrafts destroyed only in the ramp. Can't capture all in single frame, when he moved the camera, 3 more airframes engulfed in fire were visible.

Then there are dozens of hangars just close to the ramp.

There are multiple Hangars engulfed in fire as seen in the video:

This is the door half opened of the HAS.

Like this which they usually are normally:

Easily 10-12 F-7 PGs are destroyed and they are gone beyond repair. They are destroyed. The sounds, explosions, explosive sounds everything is in the video. There's no denying it.


We must stop pretending that we "foiled" this attack OR somehow this is nothing. This is epic failure in the long list of failures. Its time to start accepting. When you don't accept, you don't learn. That's what happening with Pak military.

videos:

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720751094786068981

 

[indushek]

Ok but why Pakistanis always find someone to point fingers at. First it was MQM, Sindhis and now Afghans, at first Pakistan was pointing fingers at previous afghan government and RAW but now its Pakistan ally Taliban in power so now pointing fingers at all afghans. If you kick out 100% of Afghans, this problem will still be here, people will then point fingers at Pathans and Balochis. The bigger question is these Afghans have been here for 40 years, why didn't our government provide them with education, Influenced them. Instead our government has been busy in corruption and didn't give a ####. India and others are working hard to win them over whilst Pakistan is standing there with its pants down. Do you ever wonder how Afghans are treated in Pakistan, how they are bullied and looked down upon. Our people are jealous because Afghans made millions in Pakistan, they worked hard, they have their own culture and way of life whilst we follow bollywood culture. I met many Afghans and witnessed many things, racism and discrimination is high in Pakistan. I also met a few Afghans who told me hate for the army and local people, I showed them respect and even invited them over to my brothers wedding. They were good people who were just being bullied by local chawal mangis.

We need to look deep inside ourselves and then make policies to reflect that, which will not happen because we have dacoits who are ruling us with our own votes

The Afghan refugees inside Pakistan, is a weird Frankenstein's monster tbh.

The Establishment's support to them, has ebbed and flowed given the happenings in Afghanistan. It rises and falls, whenever Pakistan has some role to play in that country or has to keep quiet.

Whatever the past, the current decision of Pak Govt to get rid of the illegal Afghans might prove to be pretty difficult. Taliban are in a flux right now, given their no profit no loss economic situation. Any influx of Afghans from Pakistan to Afghanistan, will make it really difficult for them economically.

Am not saying this particular attack, is a direct result of that. However the past where Pak Govt's at times looked like supporting the Afghans policy wise, or not supporting them has caused heart burn in that community I believe. With gun culture/pashtunwali/badal etc, things get pretty nasty. There will be unending supply of fodder, for anyone who wants to make it unbreathable for Pak Govt security wise.

Not many think about it (neither did I, till I heard a program recently where a retd general spoke about it) but, there is a reason as to why Taliban might have turned anti Pakistan. If Pakistan can create a Taliban inside Afghanistan, they can create another faction that can bring them down too. Both groups know each other well, so there will be that fear of danger lurking from a supposed friend. The same general was saying that, Taliban effectively has been divided into three factions. A Kabul faction then a Kandahar faction, and finally the Doha faction that negotiates with West. The Kabul faction is the Haqqani network, that is supposedly close to Pakistan according to him. Akhunzada you know is the supreme leader and sits in Kandahara, to whom the TTP owes allegiance. The Doha faction has no teeth, so they are all talk. Perhaps the General meant the Kabul faction, when he mentioned the Taliban's distrust of Pak Establishment besides the

Whatever Tehreek that has claimed responsibility for this attack, am sure will lead back to the Talibs. Am sure PA and ISI know all this, but given the entrenched situation of lot of this cannon fodder inside Pakistan, it will be difficult to separate wheat from chaff from them. Some solution with Talib has to be devised, if such attacks have to be stopped as kinetic actions haven't proven affective so far.

 

[nibba]

Bs...during all the muslim rule on india....every regime would first conquere afganistan n then invade india.....for 1000 years it remained this way....then came the seikhs who conquered all peshawar, hazara n went uptill jalabad n Kabul.....they along with the British installed their puppet on Kabul

So read history instead of the bs ur fed

I have read history ser. Lots violence from that time was afgjan on punjabi. Indus has always been the frontier. While the empires stretched deeper into north india (and there were sacks of delhi etc) those places were generally insulated from the routine brutality of the frontier.

Now if the afghans in question were pashtoon or tajik idk. They just came from that side to this side and did bad things to your ancestors. Now they are doing it again.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I always wonder why not send all Afghanistan Refugee to India in Moody's main state
They can just book a flight in Air India to Afghanistan


India can help setup a small community inside India for Afghan Refugees and host for 2 month

We hosted them for 40 years

 

[NooriNuth]

LOL! Who on their right mind can believe ISPR? The one outlet which is proven time and again to lie.

None of the phased-out aircrafts were touched. See Map applications, See the videos posted by terrorists and see for yourself, I believe F-7s were already phased out, Airforce keeps only active aircrafts in the hangars and over the ramps. So there were F-7PGs.

Videos are openly showing large scale destruction. Should I count it for you all guys in the frame by frame motion. ?? Multiple F-7PGs inside HAS and multiple on Ramp are destroyed. Way more than 4!

Only below frame from the video is showing at minimum 4 aircrafts destroyed. They are in addition to ones destroyed in the hardened hangars. The video showing atleast 6-8 aircrafts destroyed only in the ramp. Can't capture all in single frame, when he moved the camera, 3 more airframes engulfed in fire were visible.

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Then there are dozens of hangars just close to the ramp.

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There are multiple Hangars engulfed in fire as seen in the video:

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This is the door half opened of the HAS.

Like this which they usually are normally:

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Easily 10-12 F-7 PGs are destroyed and they are gone beyond repair. They are destroyed. The sounds, explosions, explosive sounds everything is in the video. There's no denying it.


We must stop pretending that we "foiled" this attack OR somehow this is nothing. This is epic failure in the long list of failures. Its time to start accepting. When you don't accept, you don't learn. That's what happening with Pak military.

videos:

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720751094786068981

This is what irks me.
They just ran around the airbase and destroyed jets?
I have seen better security in supermarkets.

 

[Darth Vader]

Sir, the so called Pakistan Defence Forum is now anything but a defence forum.
Many credible members and working MODS have left. You are right, the damn place is now a circus . Use of abusive language goes unnoticed...best to maintain your own level and not engage with rif raf...as access to a keyboard has made everyone an expert in everyfield.

Well makes sense its a Pakistani defence forum.
Imagine if Pakistan had reliable working military than they wouldnt get their bases attacked repeatedly and keep loosing helios, planes to scums.

I guess military should focus on its one and only job instead of trying to loot the country.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The 6 bozos were playing Call of Duty mission 6 vs Whole air base

 

[JohnWick]

جیناں دی گردن وچ سریا
اوناں نوں سیڑھی لاء لاء دھری جا

جیناں نہیں تجربے توں سبق ہیگا سکھنا
کسی نے تےکندھ ٹپ ٹپ اوناں نوں پٹنا



Ladder galore continues - no lessons learned - even yet
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اپنے باپ کی قبر پر جاتے ھوئے ھیلی کاپٹر اور قالین زیادہ ضروری ھوتے ھیں وہ نہیں بھولنے چاھیئیں، باقی عوام پر مہنگائی کا بوجھ ڈال کر ادھار لیئے پیسوں سے خریدے جہازوں کی خیر ھے، وہ چار دیواری پر ایک سوکھی سڑی باربڈ وائر لگی ھے نا وہ کافی ھے


بندہ لا لئے جُتی تے مار مار ڈھوئی لال کر دیوے ایناں پھڑاں مارن آ لیاں دی
جیڑے کُٹ کھا کھا کہ وی ساریاں نوں خوشی خوشی دس رئے ھندے کہ اینی زور دی تے نہیں وجی
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Just like following mouth full of a lie of yore

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You are infected.... Although the treatment has been started since 9 may....Go to hospital like them and take your pill....You can't be recovered

 

[Faceless]

I always wonder why not send all Afghanistan Refugee to India in Moody's main state
They can just book a flight in Air India to Afghanistan


India can help setup a small community inside India for Afghan Refugees and host for 2 month

We hosted them for 40 years

What will we do with them, you guys created the mess, you guys should deal with it.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

You are infected.... Although the treatment has been started since 9 may....Go to hospital like them and take your pill....You can't be recovered

Was installing Ishaq Dar part of the treatment?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What will we do with them, you guys created the mess, you guys should deal with it.

Refugee should be sent to India

They can host them in tent
They can provide a small salary for each refugee
They can help build mosque for them as well


Us GUYs created nothing , people were living our lives Army decided to invite refugee in the country

 

[-=virus=-]

The Afghan refugees inside Pakistan, is a weird Frankenstein's monster tbh.

The Establishment's support to them, has ebbed and flowed given the happenings in Afghanistan. It rises and falls, whenever Pakistan has some role to play in that country or has to keep quiet.

Whatever the past, the current decision of Pak Govt to get rid of the illegal Afghans might prove to be pretty difficult. Taliban are in a flux right now, given their no profit no loss economic situation. Any influx of Afghans from Pakistan to Afghanistan, will make it really difficult for them economically.

Am not saying this particular attack, is a direct result of that. However the past where Pak Govt's at times looked like supporting the Afghans policy wise, or not supporting them has caused heart burn in that community I believe. With gun culture/pashtunwali/badal etc, things get pretty nasty. There will be unending supply of fodder, for anyone who wants to make it unbreathable for Pak Govt security wise.

Not many think about it (neither did I, till I heard a program recently where a retd general spoke about it) but, there is a reason as to why Taliban might have turned anti Pakistan. If Pakistan can create a Taliban inside Afghanistan, they can create another faction that can bring them down too. Both groups know each other well, so there will be that fear of danger lurking from a supposed friend. The same general was saying that, Taliban effectively has been divided into three factions. A Kabul faction then a Kandahar faction, and finally the Doha faction that negotiates with West. The Kabul faction is the Haqqani network, that is supposedly close to Pakistan according to him. Akhunzada you know is the supreme leader and sits in Kandahara, to whom the TTP owes allegiance. The Doha faction has no teeth, so they are all talk. Perhaps the General meant the Kabul faction, when he mentioned the Taliban's distrust of Pak Establishment besides the

Whatever Tehreek that has claimed responsibility for this attack, am sure will lead back to the Talibs. Am sure PA and ISI know all this, but given the entrenched situation of lot of this cannon fodder inside Pakistan, it will be difficult to separate wheat from chaff from them. Some solution with Talib has to be devised, if such attacks have to be stopped as kinetic actions haven't proven affective so far.

I understand all along the durand line sorta remains a soft border despite recent fencing and patrolling efforts. Its been that way for a millenia predating the modern nation states of the region, very difficult to enforce.. terrain bhi mushkil hai, impossible to do an unbreachable and always guarded border, or it may be cost prohibitive with tribals on both sides opposing it.

Even during the 'enduring freedom' days, it was a major headache for both Pk fauj and ISAF..

Osama bhi wahi se aaya tha, from tora bora

they did their own clearing op after the school tragedy with op Zarb e Azb.. fir bhi ni rok pae bad guys movement... nasty problem to have.

kinda similar to our lungi infestation, good thing those kamzor hilsakhors are nothing like the taliban and crew.

 

[JohnWick]

Was installing Ishaq Dar part of the treatment?

Well state of affairs is that the only treatment you can is Moulana Fazl ur Rehman ....But that is also not free you have to give something in exchange.