Brahmin mindset and false flag attacks when US and Pak get closer

[Chhatrapati]

I am a Brahmin. Never knew I was so khatarnaak. Sunke accha laga par believe nahin ho raha by god.

That was a typical scare mongering among Pakistanis that evil Brahmins are going to take over before independence, given Brahmins used to be one of the most politically powerful class immediately after partition and as usual the guy thinks backwards.
The caste based politics is slowly getting irrelevant and Brahmin caste became irrelevant decades back. The new generation Brahmins have no interest in politics and are more looking for job opportunities.

Allegorically, particularly in Urdu poetry, Brahman represents those group of Hindus, who by the power of religion, capture and acquire a hold on the psyche of people and society, and thus then exercise a control on politics and state:

Because they used to be the Zamindars during the British. India squashed that system and you replaced Brahmin Zamindars with your own.

 

[letsrock]

That was a typical scare mongering among Pakistanis that evil Brahmins are going to take over before independence, given Brahmins used to be one of the most politically powerful class immediately after partition and as usual the guy thinks backwards.
The caste based politics is slowly getting irrelevant and Brahmin caste became irrelevant decades back. The new generation Brahmins have no interest in politics and are more looking for job opportunities.


Because they used to be the Zamindars during the British. India squashed that system and you replaced Brahmin Zamindars with your own.

Scaremongering ? really ? you have a pic of shivaji on your profile. Was that not literally what happened to maratha empire ? taken over by peshwas who are brahmins and eventually diluted and defeated. When shivaji fought mughals the local brahmins refused to coronate him and they had to borrow brahmins from varanasi and the brahmin applied tilak to shivaji with his foot. The same brahmins happily parlayed with mughals. But eventually when they realized maratha empire became a power they schemed and occupied as peshwas.

It seems to me almost every Indian guy here in this forum is brahmin. When Brits were ruling you were part of british bureacracy leeching taxes from locals. The reality is you dont love India or british but you need them to do what you as a class (though some individuals may be good) have always done - leech and exploit their resources.

And pakistanis are not scare mongering - it was brahmins who resenting the independence of mussalman and taking advantage of british rule were original proponents of two nation theory scapegoating the muslims- far before Jinnah. Just read savarkar or bhai paramanand.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Scaremongering ? really ? you have a pic of shivaji on your profile.

Get your eyes checked, it's just an eagle hunting.

Was that not literally what happened to maratha empire ? taken over by peshwas who are brahmins and eventually diluted and defeated.

Peshwas were prime ministers, they were rulers for a brief period then they went into decline and was later replaced by the Brits.

It seems to me almost every Indian guy here in this forum is brahmin. When Brits were ruling you were part of british bureacracy leeching taxes from locals. The reality is you dont love India or british but you need them to do what you as a class (though some individuals may be good) have always done - leech and exploit their resources.

I don't want to divide the Freedom fighters vs allies of Brits based on their religion and caste it will turn nasty. But freedom fighting was involved by people from all communities and those who sided with the British were diverse too. There is no point in singling out one community and your assertation is wrong, Brahmins didn't dominate the tax collecting group. And Brahmins don't dominate Hindus in PDF either lol.

And pakistanis are not scare mongering - it was brahmins who resenting the independence of mussalman and taking advantage of british rule were original proponents of two nation theory scaremongering the muslims- far before Jinnah. Just read savarkar or bhai paramanand.

hahaha so tell me, do you celebrate Independence from Brahmin or British?

 

[letsrock]

Get your eyes checked, it's just an eagle hunting.


Peshwas were prime ministers, they were rulers for a brief period then they went into decline and was later replaced by the Brits.

I don't want to divide the Freedom fighters vs allies of Brits based on their religion and caste it will turn nasty. But freedom fighting was involved by people from all communities and those who sided with the British were diverse too. There is no point in singling out one community and your assertation is wrong, Brahmins didn't dominate the tax collecting group. And Brahmins don't dominate Hindus in PDF either lol.


hahaha so tell me, do you celebrate Independence from Brahmin or British?

Even a kid knows Chattrapati in India means shivaji . You can do some hairsplitting dramabazi mantar jantar spin on words like that but this is not a temple nor the world are your dalits. Learn to talk like an adult.

"Peshwas were prime ministers, rulers for a "brief" period" is fine. But the point is they were brahmins and they took over maratha empire which belonged to shivaji and his descendents. Nice try in evasive arguments. When will you lot get a back bone and talk like a man.

In Madras state 95% of bureacracy was once brahmin. Maybe for you that is not enough domination. Close to 40 percent of current cabinet is brahmin. Again for a fascist that may not be enough. Almost 100 percent of mainstream priesthood in India is brahmin. Again your fascist mind will wonder - "what about me? I am not a millionaire yet so no brahmins dont dominate".

Independence from brahmins unfortunately is still a dream from kashmiris to tamils and indirectly even pakistanis as they feel the pain of kashmiris. But will happen. Kashmiris took the first step and for that their glory will remain etched in history.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Even a kid knows Chattrapati in India means shivaji . You can do some hairsplitting dramabazi mantar jantar spin on words like that but this is not a temple nor the world are your dalits. Learn to talk like an adult.

If you only talk to kids, Chhatrapati is a titular position held by Maratha Emperors. Shivaji was the first Chhatrapati. Serve your advice to yourself and next time read something before talking BS to me.

"Peshwas were prime ministers, rulers for a "brief" period" is fine. But the point is they were brahmins and they took over maratha empire which belonged to shivaji and his descendents. Nice try in evasive arguments. When will you lot get a back bone and talk like a man.

They were brahmins by caste, which has nothing to do with being Peshwas. Shivaji wasn't a Kshatriya but he and his family were the rulers not his caste. Peshwas took over towards the end not because they think they are Brahmins but the Chattrapati at the time was infant and incapable, not because they were power hungry. And there was never a coup by any Peshwa the Chattrapati respected his position and Peshwa respected the Chattrapati.

In Madras state 95% of bureacracy was once brahmin. Maybe for you that is not enough domination. Close to 40 percent of current cabinet is brahmin. Again for a fascist that may not be enough. Almost 100 percent of mainstream priesthood in India is brahmin. Again your fascist mind will wonder - "what about me? I am not a millionaire yet so no brahmins dont dominate".

haha did I deny they were holding key positions in the past, if they are holding such positions it is not because of their caste rather they are there because of their expertise and hardwork. In todays time it is hard for Brahmins to be in top positions because of the reservation system, if they overcome that and yet be in top positions then kudos to them.

Coming to politics, yes again those people are not dumbos who hold key positions in Cabinet, they were elected by the people or council. How do you think Brahmin who make up only 4% win getting more votes? It is more than just their castes.

Nope, there are 9 brahmin in ministerial position of 58 ministers. Explain how that's 40%?

 

[letsrock]

If you only talk to kids, Chhatrapati is a titular position held by Maratha Emperors. Shivaji was the first Chhatrapati. Serve your advice to yourself and next time read something before talking BS to me.

They were brahmins by caste, which has nothing to do with being Peshwas. Shivaji wasn't a Kshatriya but he and his family were the rulers not his caste. Peshwas took over towards the end not because they think they are Brahmins but the Chattrapati at the time was infant and incapable, not because they were power hungry. And there was never a coup by any Peshwa the Chattrapati respected his position and Peshwa respected the Chattrapati.

haha did I deny they were holding key positions in the past, if they are holding such positions it is not because of their caste rather they are there because of their expertise and hardwork. In todays time it is hard for Brahmins to be in top positions because of the reservation system, if they overcome that and yet be in top positions then kudos to them.

Coming to politics, yes again those people are not dumbos who hold key positions in Cabinet, they were elected by the people or council. How do you think Brahmin who make up only 4% win getting more votes? It is more than just their castes.

Nope, there are 9 brahmin in ministerial position of 58 ministers. Explain how that's 40%?

As predicted you started BS ...when everything fails the clingy Indian brahmin argument style starts. Tire out the opponent with sheer inanity and roundabout play on the words. Chattrapati is commonly understood in INdia as Shivaji. Period. And I have used the word to bring about the fact how brahmins creep up without doing any actual work suck up the benefits of empire and left it dry and dead and it is not scaremongering to note that fact. I didnt use the word to start endless hair splitting discussion on uses of the word Chattrapati.

What do you mean "brahmins by caste" - they are ofcourse brahmins by caste. I dont know how people suffer you and your words. What do you mean no "coup"? to start another endless debate on meaning of word "coup" and how one can sneak up power without "coup". Regal authority goes from father to son - how did it go to Brahmin ministers ?

There are 24 cabinet ministers in India. What percentage is 9 ? lets start another debate on how percentage is not really percentage.

 

[Chhatrapati]

As predicted you started BS ...when everything fails the clingy Indian brahmin argument style starts. Tire out the opponent with sheer inanity and roundabout play on the words. Chattrapati is commonly understood in INdia as Shivaji.

So you are not an Indian, but you somehow know more than me right. Indians know Chhatrapati Shivaji, we simply call him Shivaji not Chhatrapati. And anyone who reads and studies history in schools would know Chhatrapati is just a title.

And I have used the word to bring about the fact how brahmins creep up without doing any actual work suck up the benefits of empire and left it dry and dead and it is not scaremongering to note that fact. I didnt use the word to start endless hair splitting discussion on uses of the word Chattrapati.

A lot of people creep in and took power throughout our history. It is not based on one community and your argument is based on hate. Which thankfully don't run here.

What do you mean "brahmins by caste" - they are ofcourse brahmins by caste. I dont know how people suffer you and your words. What do you mean no "coup"? to start another endless debate on meaning of word "coup" and how one can sneak up power without "coup". Regal authority goes from father to son - how did it go to Brahmin ministers ?

The Peshwas rule was again hereditary just like Chhatrapati of Marathas.

There are 24 cabinet ministers in India. What percentage is 9 ? lets start another debate on how percentage is not really percentage.

So what? The ministers are selected by Modi and Shah both are non Brahmin and one is not even Hindu. If they were Brahmin then what? Only non Brahmins should be allowed in Cabinet positions or primeministership?

Brahmins in India have every right like any other community and are you saying we should deny them any position because they are Brahmin?

 

[cloud4000]

Conspiratorial nonsense. If you want anyone to blame just go knock on the door of GHQ. You will get your answers.

 

[letsrock]

So you are not an Indian, but you somehow know more than me right. Indians know Chhatrapati Shivaji, we simply call him Shivaji not Chhatrapati. And anyone who reads and studies history in schools would know Chhatrapati is just a title.


A lot of people creep in and took power throughout our history. It is not based on one community and your argument is based on hate. Which thankfully don't run here.


The Peshwas rule was again hereditary just like Chhatrapati of Marathas.


So what? The ministers are selected by Modi and Shah both are non Brahmin and one is not even Hindu. If they were Brahmin then what? Only non Brahmins should be allowed in Cabinet positions or primeministership?

Brahmins in India have every right like any other community and are you saying we should deny them any position because they are Brahmin?

Deviousness comes so easily to you. And also meaningless hair splitting of words.

Difference between PEshwas and Marathas is that Marathas built the empire with sweat, blood and sacrifice. whereas peshwas used cunning, guile to take over and eventually destroyed it because as brahmins thats what their caste asks them off. Take over with cunning, suck up the benefits, destroy and move on.

Regarding rest of your points. you basically confirm what I have already said. You dont have any concept of right or wrong or concept of fairness. You dont have a problem that 100% priesthood is reserved for your caste and you used it for generations to suck up hard labor of others. You just shrug off and say "so what? priesthood doesnt pay much". You will grab as much as you can whether you earned it or not through hook or crook others work and others sweat.

Why is that so many brahmins come up to take govt granted positions like ministers ? Its not as if they are competent. Top bureacracy in India is extremely dominated by brahmins and Pakistan a country with one eighth of economy and one sixth of population holds to a draw at the least. everyone knows India is administered shabbily. Why is that whereever supposedly "intelligent" brahmins gather in large numbers like varanasi there is no competency to be seen - no cleanliness, no politeness, no nothing. How come you always thrive on back of others work but never show any output. You havent built a single temple but occupy everyone as priest.

As long as this behavior continues time will come to rest of India as well like it came to Kashmir. Then you can answer.