Bin Laden Raid May Have Exposed Stealth Helo

[krash]

The 'Holy Grail' of radar detection avoidance is not to be inside a radar beam in the first place, so nape-of-the-earth flying is very much that 'Holy Grail'. That said, if it is not possible to avoid the radar beam, then the next best thing is to influence or perhaps even control how reflections behave, hence we have body shaping in fixed wings aircrafts. For a helo, because of the rotor creating the 'radam' effect...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/90506-china-wz-10-pics.html#post1594871

...For now we rely upon nape-of-the-earth flying to avoid radar detection. The fact that the entire force flew for so long and low enough to avoid Pakistani air defense radar is testament to the efforts prior to said mission in laying out the flight route: from locations of air defense radars to terrain mapping for masking those helos. It is far easier to say how 'easy' it is to detect these low flying aircrafts than to actually do it.

Did I talk about radar detection/avoidance???? Or are you saying that the only way to know if someone is coming at you is if you can see them on your radar screens??? Further more please reply to what is being discussed in the posts. This only wastes time.....

And for: "The fact that the entire force flew for so long and low enough to avoid Pakistani air defense radar is testament to the efforts prior to said mission in laying out the flight route"........Well also the fact that they conducted a 40 min operation with gun fire, bomb blasts and helo crashes while all the time the Pakistani military slept without a clue in the next bedroom and PAF kept whizzing above. They must have been crouching really really low while shooting to have avoided being seen or heard by the Pak military.......Oh and then theres this case of a 60 min ride back across the border.

 

[Broccoli]

Mission helo was secret stealth Black Hawk - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

People still thinks it's ordinary Blackhawk? Look at the pictures.

1. It's very smooth, and there is that silver type primer you can see. Same primer can be seen in new J-20 photos...

2. They have made sure there ain't rivets showing anywhere.

3. They tried to burn the whole copter. They failed.

 

[RescueRanger]

The 'Holy Grail' of radar detection avoidance is not to be inside a radar beam in the first place, so nape-of-the-earth flying is very much that 'Holy Grail'. That said, if it is not possible to avoid the radar beam, then the next best thing is to influence or perhaps even control how reflections behave, hence we have body shaping in fixed wings aircrafts. For a helo, because of the rotor creating the 'radam' effect...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/90506-china-wz-10-pics.html#post1594871

...For now we rely upon nape-of-the-earth flying to avoid radar detection. The fact that the entire force flew for so long and low enough to avoid Pakistani air defense radar is testament to the efforts prior to said mission in laying out the flight route: from locations of air defense radars to terrain mapping for masking those helos. It is far easier to say how 'easy' it is to detect these low flying aircrafts than to actually do it.

This! 100%