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Islam do forbid people to be chained from African jungle and sell them to America. Most of the people equate Islamic permitted slavery with African slavery.
Islam allowed two kind of slavery.
1) War booties. Sex allowed
2) Bonded voluntary slavery. It was much sought job when food was scarce. Better to have a fixed job as slaves than going hungry.
It seems Islamic laws had allowed many types of slaveries as well as many reasons to have sex with the slaves. It is disgusting to know many inhumane laws are still followed by the Islamic people. Is it not time to discard these laws from all over the world? These are too old and too inhumane.

Muslims need a renaissance to get rid of their outdated customs based on old texts. Sunni Muslims are the worst offenders of humanity-all in the name of religion. Only a few days ago a huge group of Islami Alems in BD was demanding re-introduction of child marriage only because it is compatible with Sunnah. If the majority of Muslims have gotten rid of this kind of marriage and yet claim themselves as Muslims, why not all other outdated customs be discarded too?
 
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He called for exploring the East Asian countries’ job market for female workers.

Most East Asian countries prefer workers from ASEAN and even then the same problems exist there. It is the nature of the work. Japanese abuse their ASEAN domestic workers as much as the Middle Eastern countries.
 
Most East Asian countries prefer workers from ASEAN and even then the same problems exist there. It is the nature of the work. Japanese abuse their ASEAN domestic workers as much as the Middle Eastern countries.

Never heard that actually or the case is very very small in number compared to ME patron abuse their maids.

Typical Japanese companies abuse to their foreign worker is their demand for overwork and loyalty to the works along with small benefit in Security issue like health care and pension. Non about physical abuse and holding your payment like what happened in middle east. It is quite heaven compared to harsh conditions in Saudi or Kuwait

@bluesky
 
Consider the suffering of those thousands, perhaps millions of people who were brought in chains, had their genitals removed, turned into eunuchs for the sole purpose of guarding the harems of sultans and ameer and umarah. No amount whitewashing citing the Shariah will correct the wrong that was done to those poor souls.
I dont think its Islam.. Ameer and Umarah were kings and their courts... these kind of savagery probably came from Romans!! not sure..
 
It seems Islamic laws had allowed many types of slaveries as well as many reasons to have sex with the slaves. It is disgusting to know many inhumane laws are still followed by the Islamic people. Is it not time to discard these laws from all over the world? These are too old and too inhumane.

Muslims need a renaissance to get rid of their outdated customs based on old texts. Sunni Muslims are the worst offenders of humanity-all in the name of religion. Only a few days ago a huge group of Islami Alems in BD was demanding re-introduction of child marriage only because it is compatible with Sunnat. If the majority of Muslims have gotten rid of this kind of marriage and yet claim themselves as Muslims, why not all other outdated customs be discarded too?


No where in Islam it said it is mandatory to have slave and have sex with them. You literary have no idea why Islam allowed sex with slaves. First during time of Prophet Muhammad after war the woman and children of the defeated armies used to remain unprotected. In case a woman's husband died or she has no more chance to meet him in that case she and all other woman and children used to be distributed among the soldiers or other muslims those who were capable of taking care of them financially, provide food and shelters.

Concept of sex with the slaves came mainly because the sex slaves also has urge for sex. If her owner does not meet that requirement who will do it? It is not to jump on a slave and sex with him. During the time of Caliph Omar one muslim soldier was put to death for having sex with a newly married wife who married a soldier of defeated army if I am not mistaken.

Lastly Quran said time after time to free slaves. Even if someone is slaves and gives birth to a child she will be freed. Quran said biggest rewards for anyone when he frees slaves. Encouraged to use zakat money to free slaves. If someone wants money in that case it is asked to let the slave work and pay to end his/her slavery. Islam abolished buying and selling of slaves at market. Only the thing that was not banned was to obtain slaves as war booty as those woman children would be defenseless. But it is not mandatory to have slaves like this based on quran.
 
I dont think its Islam.. Ameer and Umarah were kings and their courts... these kind of savagery probably came from Romans!! not sure..

The Ottoman sultans had many eunuchs, so did the Mughals and other sultans in the Islamic world.

It seems Islamic laws had allowed many types of slaveries as well as many reasons to have sex with the slaves. It is disgusting to know many inhumane laws are still followed by the Islamic people. Is it not time to discard these laws from all over the world? These are too old and too inhumane.

Muslims need a renaissance to get rid of their outdated customs based on old texts. Sunni Muslims are the worst offenders of humanity-all in the name of religion. Only a few days ago a huge group of Islami Alems in BD was demanding re-introduction of child marriage only because it is compatible with Sunnat. If the majority of Muslims have gotten rid of this kind of marriage and yet claim themselves as Muslims, why not all other outdated customs be discarded too?

There is a difference between the Islamic law that Allah and His Messenger ordained and the law that is in circulation.

The Shariah that is in circulation today is largely cooked up by the ulama, many of whom served the interest of the rulers they were under. Many of these rules are so utterly racist and nazi like that you would find it hard to believe after comparing with the Qur'an.

Here is an example of the son of an Arbi hoe, who considers himself an alim talking about the grades between races:

Read the whole thing and also the comments at the bottom, just realize what kind of pigs these people are. I have highlighted a line in bold below, for the context read the whole thing.

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/13/non-arab-men-are-not-suitable-for-marriage/

Yes, I know that it is not haraam to do so, but neither is rubbing feces on your face! Would you do that as well?
 
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Never heard that actually or the case is very very small in number compared to ME patron abuse their maids.

Typical Japanese companies abuse to their foreign worker is their demand for overwork and loyalty to the works along with small benefit in Security issue like health care and pension. Non about physical abuse and holding your payment like what happened in middle east. It is quite heaven compared to harsh conditions in Saudi or Kuwait

@bluesky



I'm surprised you don't know this. I come across stories of Indonesian maids getting sexually abused in East Asia fairly regularly.


Middle East is a hellhole for workers but I don't think the situation is rosy in East Asia. Employers have too much power and the workers have none.
 


I'm surprised you don't know this. I come across stories of Indonesian maids getting sexually abused in East Asia fairly regularly.


Middle East is a hellhole for workers but I don't think the situation is rosy in East Asia. Employers have too much power and the workers have none.

The case is not very much compared to middle east, although is not all rosy
 
Just ban maids altogether in that case.

BD does not need the income and has enough employment opportunities at home to give them and their families an alternative income.
 
Most East Asian countries prefer workers from ASEAN and even then the same problems exist there. It is the nature of the work. Japanese abuse their ASEAN domestic workers as much as the Middle Eastern countries.
Bold Part: Where did you get this small piece of information that the Japanese accept ASEAN or any other domestic helpers? Japanese housewives, poor and rich, do all the household works with her own two hands. Japanese have developed a culture that they feel no inferiority complex in doing menial works. No one in Japan looks down upon anyone doing menial works even its PM.

No where in Islam it said it is mandatory to have slave and have sex with them. You literary have no idea why Islam allowed sex with slaves. First during time of Prophet Muhammad after war the woman and children of the defeated armies used to remain unprotected. In case a woman's husband died or she has no more chance to meet him in that case she and all other woman and children used to be distributed among the soldiers or other muslims those who were capable of taking care of them financially, provide food and shelters.

Concept of sex with the slaves came mainly because the sex slaves also has urge for sex. If her owner does not meet that requirement who will do it? It is not to jump on a slave and sex with him. During the time of Caliph Omar one muslim soldier was put to death for having sex with a newly married wife who married a soldier of defeated army if I am not mistaken.

Lastly Quran said time after time to free slaves. Even if someone is slaves and gives birth to a child she will be freed. Quran said biggest rewards for anyone when he frees slaves. Encouraged to use zakat money to free slaves. If someone wants money in that case it is asked to let the slave work and pay to end his/her slavery. Islam abolished buying and selling of slaves at market. Only the thing that was not banned was to obtain slaves as war booty as those woman children would be defenseless. But it is not mandatory to have slaves like this based on quran.
Why do you have so many excuses for the barbaric traditions included in the religion? Stop talking about your love for the old-time Arab culture, traditions, and customs as the ABSOLUTE part of a religion. Yes, this is how the Arabic Islam allowed collecting booties in other people's women, slave, and gold after killing the men. I ask should still these customs remain in the religion. No wonder, ISIS, Taliban or Boka Haram groups are born out of barbaric Islamic formula.

Now, find out from the history who gave birth to a son named Ibrahim, who was the father and who was the unlucky enslaved woman? Was this slave woman married to the father of her child? Now, I hope the excerpt below will make you happy by knowing how the ISIS is following the barbaric 14th-century Islamic formula in the 21st century:

"ISIS sanctions rape and physical abuse for girls as young as nine years old. Some survivors report that women are gang-raped and subjected to gruesome punishments including beatings, and being forced to watch militants rape friends and family".
 

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