Bangladesh Cabinet Ministers - new faces all around

[Species]

Yes he is. I think you know already!

No, he was a civil servant but not a foreign cadre. But quite educated and spent considerable time in the West, hope he has developed some good network there.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...2019/01/07/momen-set-to-helm-foreign-ministry

 

[Mage]

No, he was a civil servant but not a foreign cadre. But quite educated and spent considerable time in the West, hope he has developed some good network there.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...2019/01/07/momen-set-to-helm-foreign-ministry

He was Bangladesh's representative to UN. I'm sure he's well versed in our foreign policy.

 

[Species]

That again not directly related to education ministry. Pay attention to his implementation of Education Policy. Bringing massive amount of schools and collgesge under MPO as well as nationalizing mos to the colleges. Plenty of univerisities, medical collges and universities were built. Literacy rate climbed from 50's to 70's. You just nullified all his work due to few culprits who leaked question paper. You are a kid..

Literacy rates is an achievement of the Ministry of Primary and Mass Education. Nahid was an undoubtedly a failed minister, that's according to the students themselves.

 

[bd_4_ever]

No, he was a civil servant but not a foreign cadre. But quite educated and spent considerable time in the West, hope he has developed some good network there.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...2019/01/07/momen-set-to-helm-foreign-ministry

Yes you are correct. But regardless he seems to be well versed with foreign affairs.

He was Bangladesh's representative to UN. I'm sure he's well versed in our foreign policy.

An economist as a foreign minister is a super interesting combination. Hope he builds some good economic relationship with large countries and maintain the fine balance between India and China.

 

[VikingRaider]

@Homo Sapiens, https://www.prothomalo.com/amp/bangladesh/article/1574486/আলাদা-চলার-প্রস্তুতি-শরিক-দলগুলোর
And other BD fellows, read the news .
So now if after 90 days BNP lose all seat in parliament ( if not take oath) then who will be beneficial?
AL 257 seat. And rest 43 seats will be others. What about Ershad and leftist alliance in future and they got 70+ seats in next election?
Shall anybody care BNP ?
So what's better for BNP? Taking oath or not?
@Skies.

 

[Skies]

@Homo Sapiens, https://www.prothomalo.com/amp/bangladesh/article/1574486/আলাদা-চলার-প্রস্তুতি-শরিক-দলগুলোর
And other BD fellows, read the news .
So now if after 90 days BNP lose all seat in parliament ( if not take oath) then who will be beneficial?
AL 257 seat. And rest 43 seats will be others. What about Ershad and leftist alliance in future and they got 70+ seats in next election?
Shall anybody care BNP ?
So what's better for BNP? Taking oath or not?
@Skies.

BNP has lost the game forever, it looks, because of lack of vision, capacity and intelligence.

But BNP should not take oath. It will only validate illegal AL. Joining parliament wont increase their acceptability or getting new supporters or make them strong. BNP does not need to look good to some people by joining oath.

 

[VikingRaider]

But BNP should not take oath. It will only validate illegal AL. Joining parliament wont increase their acceptability or getting new supporters or make them strong. BNP does not need to look good to some people by joining oath.

But, illegal AL is soon going to be legal when 43 seat opposition will declare them legal. Ershad already declared them legal. Now ally leftists and b chowdhury will not declare them illegal.
Later, empty seats of BNP will be filled by opposition ( maybe Ershad or leftists) . And the real problem is BNP is going to participate upozila election under this illegal regime, because if they don't do that they fear that grassroot BNP will leave BNP forever.
And then in 2023 general election 43 seat opposition will be participate under AL , and they will win more or less 70-80 seats ( against 200-210 seats of AL), and they will declare that the election (2023)
was fair.
Now 2 scenario, if BNP will again participate in 2023 election under AL BNP will lost credibility.
And if they won't participate, they will not be there to say wheather 2023 election is fair or not .
Besides , look @Skies , after our independence what govt was actually legal other than the first govt?
Even 1973 election is questionable.
And later the yes/no vote of Ziaur Rahman was also not out of question.
Then basically almost all elections was unfair in this sense and all govt were illegal!
But they survived, and now became legal.
Same will happen to AL, just BNP will be vanished if they do not take oath.

So still you want that BNP should not take oath?
It's AL trap man, do you still not understand? It's AL who does not want BNP take oath. So that their allies can grab those seat and become strong opposition in parliament!!!

Hasina again request dialogue. Do you really believe that she request it so that BNP take oath?
Nah they requested it so that BNP can refuse arrogantly, and get vanished once and for all !!!

It looks not only BNP, but it's supporters also died before their death! So they do not want to fight back .
Well get ready to support Jatiya party in future, or even legalisd AL, who is soon going to be better than solid leftists!

 

[Skies]

just BNP will be vanished if they do not take oath.

These legal megal things do not matter when the election itself is totally rigged. If BNP can create a situation, these legal megal things wont matter.

BNP will be there as long as people support them against BAL. For example, the concept of Hortal is vanished as people do not support it anymore. So if people support BNP, BNP will be there in the field. And if BNP can create situation like BAL created in 2006, then it does not matter who is the biggest opposition party in the parliament.

btw,

And BNP will not win by joining parliament either. BNP will lose every election under BAL. Even if JP becomes solid opposition party, it can never will against BAL and will not get more than 50 seats. BAL will not distribute power more than its comfort zone, as there will be no fair election ever.

And do not equate the severity of rigging in this election with with the previous ones. There is no accountability for whatever BAL does. In this election BAL rigged by domination with absolute power with the help of army, police and RAB.

If ever possible (but not possible), BNP will have to come with the help of army and police, or if they are disturbed and the chain of command is broken, or in case of big economic crisis.

 

[VikingRaider]

These legal megal things do not matter when the election itself is totally rigged. If BNP can create a situation, these legal megal things wont matter.

BNP will be there as long as people support them against BAL. For example, the concept of Hortal is vanished as people do not support it anymore. So if people support BNP, BNP will be there in the field. And if BNP can create situation like BAL created in 2006, then it does not matter who is the biggest opposition party in the parliament.

btw,

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And BNP will not win by joining parliament either. BNP will lose every election under BAL. Even if JP becomes solid opposition party, it can never will against BAL and will not get more than 50 seats. BAL will not distribute power more than its comfort zone, as there will be no fair election ever.

And do not equate the severity of rigging in this election with with the previous ones. There is no accountability for whatever BAL does. In this election BAL rigged by domination with absolute power with the help of army, police and RAB.

If ever possible (but not possible), BNP will have to come with the help of army and police, or if they are disturbed and the chain of command is broken, or in case of big economic crisis.

Okay lets wait and watch . I have read the news .

If ever possible (but not possible), BNP will have to come with the help of army and police, or if they are disturbed and the chain of command is broken, or in case of big economic crisis.

So finally you also compromised about democracy ? Happy to know that . , but surely @Nilgiri will not be happy to know your position .

 

[Skies]

Okay lets wait and watch . I have read the news .


So finally you also compromised with democracy ? Happy to know that . , but surely @Nilgiri will not be happy to know your position .

No no no, with the help of army and police I meant to create a level play ground where people can vote fairly, but not to help BNP to win.

 

[VikingRaider]

No no no, with the help of army and police I meant to create a level play ground where people can vote fairly, but not to help BNP to win.

Interfare of army in internal matter can never be called democracy brother . Army can only move when the sovereignty is under threat . And sovereignty under threat meaning not only the foreign invasion , but also when govt lost control on state , like AL govt almost lost control in 2013 when jamat started militancy after verdic of Delwar Hussein Sayyedi .But finally situation was under control .

However if without such case army has no right to interfare according to constitution , and if it does , then it is a clear violation of democracy ; ) .

And now BNP jamat has only option to involve army without violating democratic constitution if they again ( like 2013-2015 ) can create civil war like situation , but they will be failed .
And if even god forbid they will be successful , then surely Army is not going to help the militants sit to the power , that tried to harm the sovereignty of mother land .
And police will not do that , as they are not bound to do that, you know why!

My dear friend @Skies, the life is not as easy as it looks , maybe once you will understand that . .

 

[Skies]

tried to harm the sovereignty of mother land .

So far I know BAL is harmful for the sovereignty of mother land. For example, naturalizing BDR in 2009.

Let's see 5 years what happens.

 

[VikingRaider]

So far I know BAL is harmful for the sovereignty of mother land. For example, naturalizing BDR in 2009.

Umm , unfortunately we do not know what is the reality , as their is no way for civilians to know what is happening in them selves I think . In this case my thoughts are very limited .

Let's see 5 years what happens.

Yes finally we completely agree in a certain point , lets wait and see : ) .

 

[Skies]

Umm , unfortunately we do not know what is the reality , as their is no way for civilians to know what is happening in them selves I think . In this case my thoughts are very limited .


Yes finally we completely agree in a certain point , lets wait and see : ) .

I do not know how you know very much about BNP -jamat militancy and they being threat to the country but not about the so-called BDR mutility and BAL's anti-state activities!

 

[VikingRaider]

I do not know how you know very much about BNP -jamat militancy and they being threat to the country but not about the so-called BDR mutility and BAL's anti-state activities!

Actually sometimes military things are exactly the opposite as it looks like . So it's not wise to comment without evidence .
And besides BNP Jamat militancy was directly on street , hartal , vangchur , arson attack . So every civilian saw this , and they were direct victims !
While for the case of Pilkhana it is military stuff , that's why civilians are in dark except some imaginary assumption , and blaming each others, and exactly our civilians are good at this ( blaming each other) . As jafarullah directly lied about current army chief , and then apologized .

So basically you need to prove it , that who are the real responsible for Pilkhana massacre , while everyone saw the arson terrorism and lots of peoples were victims , you do not know the solid proof , when you are already directly victim.
@Skies