Are Turkey and Israel on a collision Course?

[Donatello]

Probably because Palestinians are freedom fighters while Kurds are just evil terrorists.

Well Palestinians are freedom fighters....where else did they carve Israel out of? After WW II?

 

[T-Rex]

turkey will not escort the flotillas, this abs crap, as long as turkey is in NATO, turkey will have to follow the higher power directives, we all know, uncle sam founded NATO

CAIRO: Turkey said on Thursday it would escort aid ships to Gaza and would not allow a repetition of last year’s Israeli raid that killed nine Turks, setting the stage for a potential naval confrontation with its former ally.

Raising the stakes in Turkey’s row with Israel over its refusal to apologise for the killings, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told Al Jazeera television that Turkey had taken steps to stop Israel from unilaterally exploiting natural resources in the Mediterranean.

“Turkish warships, in the first place, are authorised to protect our ships that carry humanitarian aid to Gaza,” Erdogan said in the interview, broadcast by Al Jazeera with an Arabic translation.

“From now on, we will not let these ships to be attacked by Israel, as what happened with the Freedom Flotilla,” Erdogan said.

Referring to Erdogan’s comments, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said: “This is a statement well-worth not commenting on.”

Relations between Turkey and Israel, two close US allies in the region, have soured since Israeli forces boarded the Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara aid ship in May 2010.

Ankara downgraded ties and vowed to boost naval patrols in the eastern Mediterranean in the escalating row.

Israel says it acted legally against ships that tried to breach its blockade on the Palestinian enclave which is ruled by the Hamas group.

Israel has said it will enforce the blockade, which it says is needed to prevent arms smuggling to Hamas.

Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said earlier on Thursday that Israel and Turkey will eventually mend fences rather than become foes, describing their unprecedented dispute over Gaza as “spilled milk”.

Noting that an inquiry commissioned by United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had vindicated the blockade, Barak predicted that wider Middle East upheaval would help bring Israel back together with its Muslim ex-ally.

“Ultimately this wave will pass. We recognise reality. They recognise reality,” Barak told Israel Radio. “We are the two countries that are most important to the West in the region …I am certain that we can overcome these (disagreements).”

But Erdogan appeared to raise the heat, saying Nato member Turkey has taken steps to patrol the Mediterranean, and vowed to stop the Jewish state from exploiting natural resources in the area.

“You know that Israel has begun to declare that it has the right to act in exclusive economic areas in the Mediterranean,” Erdogan said, apparently in reference to Israeli plans to exploit offshore gas reserves found in areas that are also claimed by Lebanon.

“You will see that it will not be the owner of this right, because Turkey, as a guarantor of the Turkish republic of north Cyprus, has taken steps in the area, and it will be decisive and holding fast to the right to monitor international waters in the east Mediterranean,” he said.

Turkey says oil deals granted by the Greek Cypriot government, which represents the island in the European Union, are illegal as the borders of Cyprus remain undetermined while Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots pursue reunification talks.

Turkey’s plan to flex its naval muscles may fuel Western unease about Turkey’s reliability as a NATO partner and its penchant for actions designed to court popularity in the Muslim world.

Asked whether Israel might yet say sorry for the seizure of the Turkish vessel, Barak said: “Look, it’s spilled milk. It’s not important right now.”

In addition to an apology, Nato-member Turkey has demanded that Israel end the Gaza blockade. Israel says the closure is needed to keep arms from reaching Palestinian guerrillas by sea.

“A normalisation or improvement in Turkey-Israel relationships shouldn’t be expected unless they apologise, pay a compensation and lift an embargo on Gaza,” Erdogan said on Thursday.

 

[T-Rex]

How ??Israel will do alone or with her sisters??

This is what I wanted to know. In case of a military conflict what tactics might be employed and what might be the possible outcome. Strangely, nobody is saying anything about that! Some are saying that Turkey will be the loser and some are saying that israel is going to lose, but nobody is saying how. It will not lead to a war but a limited battle is most likely.

 

[nomi007]

Israel had only 1 friend in middle east that he lost
Turkish navy is much bigger and also advance than Israel
now Ottoman empire is showing its wings.

 

[bularab]

I have two wishes and if Turkey fulfill them, I'll join their military A.S.A.P

1) Liberate Palestine
2) Liberate Bulgaria from the ******* stupid lazy assholes called "politicians", so we can again become ultra-mega-big power in Europe, just as we did before 1989.

 

[T-Rex]

Israel had only 1 friend in middle east that he lost
Turkish navy is much bigger and also advance than Israel
now Ottoman empire is showing its wings.

The israeli navy will enjoy round the clock state of the art air cover in case skirmishes take place. How will Turkish air-force and navy tackle that?

 

[hunter_hunted]

Nup I dont think so even a few months ago Pakistan and America were also on Collision course but it turns out to a bubble. same is the case here.

 

[T-Rex]

Nup I dont think so even a few months ago Pakistan and America were also on Collision course but it turns out to a bubble. same is the case here.

Is this why Pakistan accuses uncle sam of implementing the indian designs in Beluchistan? Wake up, just because the americans are not yet dropping bombs over Islamabad does not mean a collision is not taking place.

 

[TrMhMt]

I don't have any problem with that. Some one has to be the leader i don't care whether he is a turk, egyptian or arab... All i do care about unity. Hope other muslims think like this.

i agree with you !! But in this case, Leadership is suit on Turkiye. The reasons are given by me above !! Muslims must be united no way ....

 

[TrMhMt]

This is what I wanted to know. In case of a military conflict what tactics might be employed and what might be the possible outcome. Strangely, nobody is saying anything about that! Some are saying that Turkey will be the loser and some are saying that israel is going to lose, but nobody is saying how. It will not lead to a war but a limited battle is most likely.

There will not a war or limited battle believe me. From now Israel will stay away from us and will not engage Turkish navy coz its sisters will not let them !! without her sister she is nothing ...

 

[manojb]

No one is gonna wipe out anyone, that`s just stupid talk.
AKP just offered again for normalization of ties today if Israel apologizes but what would be the point?
It is crystal clear that they have become our enemies and will stay that way till CHP gets reelected.

hm thats the point.. why not israel take first step apolizing flotilla raid, now that UN also condemned the raid. This way you go clean on negotiating table with turkey.

 

[500]

hm thats the point.. why not israel take first step apolizing flotilla raid, now that UN also condemned the raid. This way you go clean on negotiating table with turkey.

Israel endorsed UN report. Turkey rejected.

 

[T-Rex]

Israel endorsed UN report. Turkey rejected.

I am glad that israel is stubbornly refusing to apologise. I say let the israelis display their arrogance, it will bring sweet fruits for the Turks and the Palestinians.

 

[Archdemon]

Turks demanded international inquiry on the flotilla incident, they agreed to participate in Palmert report so do the Israelis, they didnt like the outcome so they reject the report, who is the arrogant one ?

 

[T-Rex]

Now the thread should be titled "Are Turkey and Egypt on a Collision Course with Israel?", everybody knows by now why.