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Anti-Naxal Ops: IAF Special Forces Brought In, UAVs Out

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The Indian Air Force (IAF) today said it has deployed Garud Special Forces commandos and four choppers for anti-Naxal operations but withdrawn the Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) operating in Maoist bastions in Chhattisgarh.

To protect its choppers from Maoists attacks, the IAF chief said Garud Commandos have been deployed on these helicopters to retaliate whenever such a situation arises.

"Four IAF choppers are operating in Raipur, Dantewada, and Jagdalpur areas. We also used to operate UAVs in these areas to track the Naxals but they have been withdrawn," IAF chief P V Naik told reporters here.

The IAF chief said the choppers "carry a Garud Special Force member on board who mans the gun, which is not the integrated part of the helicopter."

On the withdrawal of UAVs from anti-Naxal operations, Naik said, "beyond a certain season, it loses its surprise element... And these UAVs were not meant for what they were being used for."

He said the IAF withdrew the UAVs after it found that it was not able to meet the requirements.

On the Rules of Engagement (RoE) in Naxal-affected areas, the IAF chief said very "stringent" rules have been provided to the IAF for firing back when its choppers come under attack from the naxalites.

"We follow very stringent rules as we don't want any collateral damage to take place in our own territory and we can fire only at the source of fire which is determined by the captain of the chopper," Naik said.

After the IAF lost one of its personnel in Raipur during the last general elections, it had sought rules of engagement from the government for tackling the issue.

On who was the bigger threat for India between China and Pakistan, Naik said, "I have stopped using the word threat and started using the word challenge. We go for capability specific rather than threat specific. As far as your query about China and Pakistan, it is not a concern for me."

"Concerns are what are the capabilities that are required. We analyse the country or a group like LeT, then look at capability that has to be acquired," he added.

The IAF chief said country's armed forces were not "chunnu munnu" (weaklings/kids) and were capable of meeting any challenge to country's security.

On the geopolitical situation arising in view of the exit of US forces from Afghanistan by 2014, Talibanisation of Pakistan and the current situation in Kashmir, he said in future whether Afghanistan stabilises or destabilises, India would be "up the pole".

"If Afghanistan doesn't stabilise, there will be problem for the entire world as it will be Talibanised. If it stabilises and the Taliban are defeated, then their unemployed cadre are likely to head our way. In either case, we are up the pole," he said.

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I don't know about this- I like the US system where they are not allowed to deploy the military on their own people- there is national guard which can be brought in at worse. but most work is done by the law enforcement arm.

So I'm not sure about Indian military being involved...just conflicted
 
ok for information of every one the title is slightly misleading.

each helicopter will carry a indian air force special force garud member who will man the mounted LMG. this is a direct result of attack on IAF chopper quite some time back in which an IAF personnel was killed. that time IAF did not hv permission to carry out premptive fire. AF then went to GOI and got sanction to fire back on naxals.

frankly speaking, to think that a speciaf forces person will man a LMG on borad is a JOKE. the LMG can be manned by a trained CRPF or police person. why do u require special forces person for it. its actually a blot on the special forces if a highly trained person is required to man just a LMG.

honestly speaking i am not in favour ofthis IAF special force. their actual utility is very low.
 
ok for information of every one the title is slightly misleading.
Yeah its misleading....i just tried not to change the actual heading. We are not using normal infantryman, forget about special forces.

I don't know about this- I like the US system where they are not allowed to deploy the military on their own people- there is national guard which can be brought in at worse. but most work is done by the law enforcement arm.
Yeah but they are not facing problems like naxalism, we are actually following alot of constraints, in any other country the government would have used fighter jets. Just take example of Pakistan.
 
I don't know about this- I like the US system where they are not allowed to deploy the military on their own people- there is national guard which can be brought in at worse. but most work is done by the law enforcement arm.

One more parroted advice from migrant - "our USA does it this way, why don't u do it this way onleee??"

If India does it in its own way, and adapts to the conditions and limited resources, is that wrong and embarrassing to you?
 
each helicopter will carry a indian air force special force garud member who will man the mounted LMG. this is a direct result of attack on IAF chopper quite some time back in which an IAF personnel was killed. ...

frankly speaking, to think that a speciaf forces person will man a LMG on borad is a JOKE. the LMG can be manned by a trained CRPF or police person. ..

IAF did the right thing.

CRPF and police are not trained for special-ops, specially when the scenario is airborne surface attack. And, there is not enough time to train CRPF or police for operating LMG from airbone platforms.

Question here is not of Gun-type. Its about mission profile. CRPF is no fit for this.
 
Why the hell they remove UAVs from the operations ??/ UAV are essential for anti-naxal operations and more and more chopper should be included.
 
IAF did the right thing.

CRPF and police are not trained for special-ops, specially when the scenario is airborne surface attack. And, there is not enough time to train CRPF or police for operating LMG from airbone platforms.Question here is not of Gun-type. Its about mission profile. CRPF is no fit for this.

bro u r info is wrong. IAF helicopters are carrying out only logisitcs supply duties and rescue duties. No Special heli borne operations are mandated by government. so machine gun is installed only as defensive weapon. dont u think TRAINING OF SPECIAL FORCES OPERATIVE IS WASTE IF HE HAS TO JUST LOOK AFTER LMG. in all probability the LMG wont even be used as area is generally cordoned off by security forces. thats why i said its a joke.
 
Why the hell they remove UAVs from the operations ??/ UAV are essential for anti-naxal operations and more and more chopper should be included.

UAVs have not yielded desired results in naxal fighting. UAVs are meant to give real time information abt enemies. they are used to track enemy movements and if required take pictures.

now let us look at how our naxals operate. mostly the movement is by night and through heavy jungles. they r dressed as common people so identifying or differentiating a naxal from common man is simply impossible.

the security agencies have realised this.

i think we need to concentrate on HUMINT. HUMINT only can give accurate information on movements of naxals. sorry to say this is one area where the state police and IB are sorely lacking.
 

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