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An opening in Afghanistan: Kabul’s deal with Pakistan

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Interesting article on NYPost.

1. Hot pursuit allowed across Durand line?
2. Quetta Shura works out of 9 large houses.

article here, excerpts below:
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Under the agreement, the two neighbors will allow each other’s forces the right of hot pursuit.
This had been a thorny issue for decades, as successive Afghan governments refused to recognize the border fixed by the British during their rule in the Indian Subcontinent.


Afghans claim that large chunks of land, where Pushtun tribes form a majority, represent “Afghan occupied territory ” that should return to “the motherland,” a position firmly rejected by Pakistan.
Right now, some terror bases operating against Afghanistan are located just a couple of miles inside Pakistani territory under protection of Pakistani border guards.

With the new agreement, that protection will no longer be available. In fact, last week an Afghan unit pursued a terrorist group inside Pakistani territory for the first time.

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The top echelon of the Afghan Taliban’s leadership, after all, is located in nine large houses in the Pakistani city of Quetta. The group, calling itself “the Quetta Shura” or council, holds plenary sessions four times a year, often posting parts of the proceedings on YouTube.

It is also there that Mullah Muhammad Omar, the self-styled “Commander of the Faithful,” holds court, receiving local and foreign visitors. His secretariat reportedly employs more than two dozen individuals, including several Pakistani IT experts.

The Afghans return the favor by allowing the leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Mullah Abdul-Razzaq, full facilities to run his headquarters in Jalalabad, close to the disputed border with Pakistan.
Both Islamabad and Kabul try to justify their strange behavior by claiming they are allowing the Taliban nothing but “normal political activity.”
 
Sounds too good to be true, but if it is, win win for both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Happy hunting guys.
 
Interesting article on NYPost.

1. Hot pursuit allowed across Durand line?
2. Quetta Shura works out of 9 large houses.

article here, excerpts below:
....

Under the agreement, the two neighbors will allow each other’s forces the right of hot pursuit.
This had been a thorny issue for decades, as successive Afghan governments refused to recognize the border fixed by the British during their rule in the Indian Subcontinent.


Afghans claim that large chunks of land, where Pushtun tribes form a majority, represent “Afghan occupied territory ” that should return to “the motherland,” a position firmly rejected by Pakistan.
Right now, some terror bases operating against Afghanistan are located just a couple of miles inside Pakistani territory under protection of Pakistani border guards.

With the new agreement, that protection will no longer be available. In fact, last week an Afghan unit pursued a terrorist group inside Pakistani territory for the first time.

.....

The top echelon of the Afghan Taliban’s leadership, after all, is located in nine large houses in the Pakistani city of Quetta. The group, calling itself “the Quetta Shura” or council, holds plenary sessions four times a year, often posting parts of the proceedings on YouTube.

It is also there that Mullah Muhammad Omar, the self-styled “Commander of the Faithful,” holds court, receiving local and foreign visitors. His secretariat reportedly employs more than two dozen individuals, including several Pakistani IT experts.

The Afghans return the favor by allowing the leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Mullah Abdul-Razzaq, full facilities to run his headquarters in Jalalabad, close to the disputed border with Pakistan.
Both Islamabad and Kabul try to justify their strange behavior by claiming they are allowing the Taliban nothing but “normal political activity.”


Dr Ghani will find a solid friend here if he continues his policies.
 
Dr Ghani will find a solid friend here if he continues his policies.
From what I've seen and read, Ghani seems to be genuine in his dealings with Pakistan and the US; unlike his predecessor, who was paranoid and blamed everyone else of Afghanistan's problems but Afghanistan itself.

I sincerely hope that Ghani reaches out and lets Pakistan's military train and equip the ANA.
 
From what I've seen and read, Ghani seems to be genuine in his dealings with Pakistan and the US; unlike his predecessor, who was paranoid and blamed everyone else of Afghanistan's problems but Afghanistan itself.

I sincerely hope that Ghani reaches out and lets Pakistan's military train and equip the ANA.

Karzai was a man of self destructive mindset.
 
so the recent attacks in Pakistan were some type of negotiation techniques? to clear Quetta from certain elements?
Why is Quetta so important for US?
 
a few points:

1.) The border is not "disputed" it's internationally recognized

2.) We need to step up a PR/propaganda campaign against TTP and Fazlullah while APS attack is still fresh in many peoples' heads

3.) I wouldnt be quick to trust the ANA in its current form....i wouldnt trust them at all



Karzai was a man of self destructive mindset.

he suffered from mental illnesses; it was only the indians who stood by the man when everyone else realized what Pakistan realized a long time ago
 
Interesting article on NYPost.

1. Hot pursuit allowed across Durand line?
2. Quetta Shura works out of 9 large houses.

article here, excerpts below:
....

Under the agreement, the two neighbors will allow each other’s forces the right of hot pursuit.
This had been a thorny issue for decades, as successive Afghan governments refused to recognize the border fixed by the British during their rule in the Indian Subcontinent.


Afghans claim that large chunks of land, where Pushtun tribes form a majority, represent “Afghan occupied territory ” that should return to “the motherland,” a position firmly rejected by Pakistan.
Right now, some terror bases operating against Afghanistan are located just a couple of miles inside Pakistani territory under protection of Pakistani border guards.

With the new agreement, that protection will no longer be available. In fact, last week an Afghan unit pursued a terrorist group inside Pakistani territory for the first time.

.....

The top echelon of the Afghan Taliban’s leadership, after all, is located in nine large houses in the Pakistani city of Quetta. The group, calling itself “the Quetta Shura” or council, holds plenary sessions four times a year, often posting parts of the proceedings on YouTube.

It is also there that Mullah Muhammad Omar, the self-styled “Commander of the Faithful,” holds court, receiving local and foreign visitors. His secretariat reportedly employs more than two dozen individuals, including several Pakistani IT experts.

The Afghans return the favor by allowing the leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Mullah Abdul-Razzaq, full facilities to run his headquarters in Jalalabad, close to the disputed border with Pakistan.
Both Islamabad and Kabul try to justify their strange behavior by claiming they are allowing the Taliban nothing but “normal political activity.”
Bullshit Afghan Forces are neither capable nor we are that stupid to allow ANA to do operation here and if fail brings biggest shame to Pakistan Army.
 
Bullshit Afghan Forces are neither capable nor we are that stupid to allow ANA to do operation here and if fail brings biggest shame to Pakistan Army.

Afghan forces are only built and trained to test the metal of Pakistan forces ... they are 300'000 armed to teeth men fully backed by Iranian oil and supplies in comparison to Toyota Hilux patrols of 6-10 men of Pakistan army...
Heavily armed Afghan, Iran and Indian armies are deployed on Pakistan borders.... backed with Tajiks and Uzbeks and Black water and Gorkhas and many Iraq/Syria trained locals and atheists....what do you think we are stupid to believe all is fine !
In Pakistan... situation is that if you raid 50 houses, one of them would be a depot of weapons.. if you search 100 random trucks, one of them would be laden with explosives and arms.
What do you think, where should we believe that the lost supplies of US weapons have ended?
Unfortunately, our army hasn't been able to grasp the imminent threat.. otherwise they would have never allowed such massive and full of hate militant buildup upon its borders.
My guess .... Pakistan army will face a limited wars, at least at Afghan front in 2015. Which is progress of cold start into warmup.
Only... good thing in the whole scenario is strategic decrease in oil prices, which would give relief to Pak army's limited budget vs. there vastly expanded operations.
 
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Afghan forces are only built and trained to test the metal of Pakistan forces ... they are 300'000 armed to teeth men fully backed by Iranian oil and supplies in comparison to Toyota Hilux patrols of 6-10 men of Pakistan army...
Heavily armed Afghan, Iran and Indian armies are deployed on Pakistan borders.... backed with Tajiks and Uzbeks and Black water and Gorkhas and many Iraq/Syria trained locals and atheists....what do you think we are stupid to believe all is fine !
In Pakistan... situation is that if you raid 50 houses, one of them would be a depot of weapons.. if you search 100 random trucks, one of them would be laden with explosives and arms.
What do you think, where should we believe that the lost supplies of US weapons have ended?
Unfortunately, our army hasn't been able to grasp the imminent threat.. otherwise they would have never allowed such massive and full of hate militant buildup upon its borders.
My guess .... Pakistan army will face a limited wars, at least at Afghan front in 2015. Which is progress of cold start into warmup.
Only... good thing in the whole scenario is strategic decrease in oil prices, which would give relief to Pak army's limited budget vs. there vastly expanded operations.
Who the hell is this genius ? @Horus ? :oops:
 

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