An Image From 2002 Standoff With India!

[Windjammer]

This image is said to be taken from the 2002 standoff between India and Pakistan. The knife edge standoff lasted for some 10 months when around a million troops confronted on the border. Pakistan Air Force F-16 fully armed and parked at the end of the runway, with their pilots geared up, sitting in the winter sun, ready to meet any challenge.

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[alikazmi007]

I was hoping to see the AN/ALQ-131 at the centerline pod for the situation they were in at that time.

 

[Hellfire2006]

PAF F16s didn't have any BVR capabilities back then. they would have surely suffered heavy losses against indian Mig29s which carried the R77

 

[JX-1]

This is the one where Indians took 2000 casualties from merely mobilizing?

 

[Rahil khan]

PAF F16s didn't have any BVR capabilities back then. they would have surely suffered heavy losses against indian Mig29s which carried the R77

If i am not wrong, BVR missiles were provided to PAF by China along with 48 F-7PG aircrafts during the 2002 military standoff.

 

[Hellfire2006]

This is the one where Indians took 2000 casualties from merely mobilizing?

no, casualties mainly came from ci ops in kashmir, mining and de mining ops as well as cross border firing

If i am not wrong, BVR missiles were provided to PAF by China along with 48 F-7PG aircrafts during the 2002 military standoff.

you're indeed right, F7P was the first aircraft in PAF arsenal which was BVR capable but it was outgunned by the Mig29 in every aspect

 

[SaadH]

PAF F16s didn't have any BVR capabilities back then. they would have surely suffered heavy losses against indian Mig29s which carried the R77

Russian BVRs are/were notoriously unreliable.

 

[Hellfire2006]

Russian BVRs are/were notoriously unreliable.

they carried R60M missiles during the kargil era and from what I know the first batch of R77 was delivered to IAF in 2002

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Nomad40]

PAF F16s didn't have any BVR capabilities back then. they would have surely suffered heavy losses against indian Mig29s which carried the R77

R-27 were flown as well. Most prominent during recce Canberra flights.

2X R77 are flown presently and regularly.

no, casualties mainly came from ci ops in kashmir, mining and de mining ops as well as cross border firing


you're indeed right, F7P was the first aircraft in PAF arsenal which was BVR capable but it was outgunned by the Mig29 in every aspect

Negative - it was the Mirage 3.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Negative - it was the Mirage 3.

Do you have backup of your claims dude?

 

[Nomad40]

If i am not wrong, BVR missiles were provided to PAF by China along with 48 F-7PG aircrafts during the 2002 military standoff.

News to me - Never seen or heard the likes of what you are inferring.

 

[Nomad40]

Do you have backup of your claims dude?

let me rephrase - Some Mirage's of the PAF Had BVR capability for a short while.

The backup is dead.

 

[MirageBlue]

Russian BVRs are/were notoriously unreliable.

and yet the PAF's F-16s turned back and avoided combat against MiG-29s on CAP with R-27s, while Pakistani regulars of the NLA and mujahideen were being pounded by the IAF.

Ripple fired R-27s were a dangerous threat no matter what their overall reliability would have been. Especially given that the F-16s had nothing to fire back till they were within 10-15 km of the opposing fighter whereas the R-27s would've been fired from well over 30-40 km out.

 

[delta2]

This is the one where Indians took 2000 casualties from merely mobilizing?

No, correct factual figure is somewhere around 6000+.

There were lots of suicides by Indian soldiers, not just accidents.