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Understood. But forget US/India for the time being. But can you please tell me the hostility of current Afghan regime towards Pakistan was without any reason ??
I do not know how closely you follow Pakistani news, but when Ghani took over, Pakistan was very optimistic. There were several high level meetings and there were good sound bites on both sides.

Then things began to change, and Ghani started to take a very hard line with Pakistan. Talks and negotiations broke down, and the blame game started. Ghani started blaming every terrorist attack on Pakistan knowing full well that the Taliban controlled more than half of his country, and that they did not need Pakistan as a safe haven.

So to answer your question, the current Afghan regime's hostility towards Pakistan was certainly without good reason.
 
Then it supports what I have been consistently saying. If the current settlement is not that peaceful an lead to violent settlement of scores, it will lead to yet another civil war. :(
Agreed, that there will be no magical spell, it will take some time but, at last peace will be there - I am positive about that and hope so.
 
Made up fantasy title.
Meanwhile in reality Amrullah Saleh is all set to be the next Vice President of Afghanistan. :flame:
:flame:

The whole setup is going to be rolled back before your Afghan father would become vice president

Tell your mom that her Afghan partner in bed is coming back as a loser
 
I do not know how closely you follow Pakistani news, but when Ghani took over, Pakistan was very optimistic. There were several high level meetings and there were good sound bites on both sides.

Then things began to change, and Ghani started to take a very hard line with Pakistan. Talks and negotiations broke down, and the blame game started. Ghani started blaming every terrorist attack on Pakistan knowing full well that the Taliban controlled more than half of his country, and that they did not need Pakistan as a safe haven.

So to answer your question, the current Afghan regime's hostility towards Pakistan was certainly without good reason.
Actually mid-level management of Afghan estb is pro Indian. They regularly visit India and enjoy their lives. That's the reason, even if you make Imran Khan as the president of Afghanistan, he also will become anti Pakistan. Mahool ka aser hota hai.
 
I do not know how closely you follow Pakistani news, but when Ghani took over, Pakistan was very optimistic. There were several high level meetings and there were good sound bites on both sides.

Then things began to change, and Ghani started to take a very hard line with Pakistan. Talks and negotiations broke down, and the blame game started. Ghani started blaming every terrorist attack on Pakistan knowing full well that the Taliban controlled more than half of his country, and that they did not need Pakistan as a safe haven.

So to answer your question, the current Afghan regime's hostility towards Pakistan was certainly without good reason.

Even before Ghani, there was northern alliance backed regime since 2001. And like anyone, I hope you are also aware that Quetta sura is a reality and your own Ex-NSA Sartaj Aziz had on record agreed the same.

Aziz admits Pakistan housing Afghan Taliban leaders

Similarly ex Taliban Chief, Mr. Mullah Akhtar Mansoor was traveling with a Pakistani passport when killed. I think these are good enough reasons for someone who is fighting the Taliban, right ?? :-)
 
Even before Ghani, there was northern alliance backed regime since 2001. And like anyone, I hope you are also aware that Quetta sura is a reality and your own Ex-NSA Sartaj Aziz had on record agreed the same.

Aziz admits Pakistan housing Afghan Taliban leaders

Similarly ex Taliban Chief, Mr. Mullah Akhtar Mansoor was traveling with a Pakistani passport when killed. I think these are good enough reasons for someone who is fighting the Taliban, right ?? :-)

Afghans of all political stripes have spent time in Pakistan. In fact, Mr. Amrullah Saleh himself spent time in Pakistan. Just being in Pakistan does not make someone an enemy of Afghanistan.
 
Afghans of all political stripes have spent time in Pakistan. In fact, Mr. Amrullah Saleh himself spent time in Pakistan. Just being in Pakistan does not make someone an enemy of Afghanistan.

That is a naive statement. Just being in Pakistan ??? Frankly who are you trying to fool :-) ?? Pakistan's especially ISI's involvement in Afghanistan is a open secret which even your people acknowledge time and again. So yes I guess there is definitely some reason, and it is all matter of perception.
 
This is exactly what I've been discussing with some of your friends in different Afghan related threads. Afghanistan has every recipe for getting engaged in yet another civil war immediately after the foreign forces leave. The war there is only one permanent thing I guess. :lol::lol::lol:
This time we are ready no uncontrolled migration
 
That is a naive statement. Just being in Pakistan ??? Frankly who are you trying to fool :-) ?? Pakistan's especially ISI's involvement in Afghanistan is a open secret which even your people acknowledge time and again. So yes I guess there is definitely some reason, and it is all matter of perception.


Typical Indian tomfoolery.

You went from "Afghans and their families live in Pakistan" to "ISI is involved in Afghanistan". There are millions of Afghans living in Pakistan. It is impossible to know who is and isn't Afghan Taliban. Indians are brought up on a diet of ISI paranoia. You see ISI everywhere.
 
Even before Ghani, there was northern alliance backed regime since 2001. And like anyone, I hope you are also aware that Quetta sura is a reality and your own Ex-NSA Sartaj Aziz had on record agreed the same.

Aziz admits Pakistan housing Afghan Taliban leaders

Similarly ex Taliban Chief, Mr. Mullah Akhtar Mansoor was traveling with a Pakistani passport when killed. I think these are good enough reasons for someone who is fighting the Taliban, right ?? :-)
The Taliban insurgency doesn't depend on some centralized Shura or leadership to continue. The foot soldiers, low and mid level commanders, trainers etc are all based in Afghanistan. Taliban fundraising through extortion, kidnapping, drug trade, taxes etc is all primarily in Afghanistan. In Pakistan, neutralizing the high level TTP leadership had little to no impact on TTP operations - another leader, more brutal than the last, would end up getting elected.

Pakistan stabilized Swat without killing Mullah Fazlullah who was the leader of the terrorist movement in Swat and eventually became the leader of the entire TTP while living in his sanctuary in Afghanistan. He wasn't killed until 2018 (killed in Afghanistan).

Neutralizing the leadership isn't the issue - taking control of insurgent controlled territory, reducing their influence locally and eliminating their sources of funding etc is what Afghanistan needs to do, and all of that needs to be done locally in Afghanistan, similar to what Pakistan did locally in FATA.

And even if some limited cross-border movement of terrorists does take place, please remember that it is Afghanistan that is opposing border fencing and enhanced border control and monitoring measures, not Pakistan.
 
Made up fantasy title.
Meanwhile in reality Amrullah Saleh is all set to be the next Vice President of Afghanistan. :flame:
:flame:
Imagine thinking pushtoons of Afg are going to let Saleh remain in power.

Saleh is going to find out himself what Afghans do to non Pushtoons when the Yanks and Indian terrorists have no power
 

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