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The ATF is a law enforcement organization within the United States Department of Treasury.

Federal officials tried to cover up evidence that the gun that killed (Border patrol Agent Brian Terry) was one of the government intentionally helped sell to the Mexicans Cartels...



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Evidence Suggests Cover-Up in ATF Scandal, as More Guns Appear at Crime Scenes


Just hours after the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, federal officials tried to cover up evidence that the gun that killed Terry was one the government intentionally helped sell to the Mexican cartels in a weapons trafficking program known as Operation Fast and Furious.

The revelation comes just days after a huge shake-up of government officials who oversaw the failed anti-gun trafficking program and Congress renewed its demand for more answers.

This picture shows part of a cache of seized weapons displayed at a news conference in Phoenix.

Also late Thursday, Sen. Charles Grassley's office revealed that 31 more Fast and Furious guns have been found at 12 violent crime scenes in Mexico.
In an internal email the day after Terry's murder, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Emory Hurley and then-U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke decided not to disclose the connection, saying "this way we do not divulge our current case (Fast and Furious) or the Border Patrol shooting case."

Grassley, R-Iowa, and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., said Thursday they are expanding their investigation into the scandal. In a strongly worded letter to Anne Scheel, the new U.S. attorney for Arizona, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee requested interviews, emails, memos and even hand-written notes from members of the U.S. attorney's office that played key roles in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) program.

“The level of involvement of the United States Attorney’s Office ... in the genesis and implementation of this case is striking,” wrote Issa and Grassley.The two claim witnesses have told them that recently reassigned Hurley may have also prevented ATF agents from doing their jobs.

“Many ATF agents working on Operation Fast and Furious were under the impression that even some of the most basic law enforcement techniques typically used to interdict weapons required the explicit approval of your office, specifically that from Hurley,” the letter states.

Issa and Grassley said they want to speak with Hurley and Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Morrissey, along with Patrick Cunningham, chief of the office’s Criminal Division.

Not only do congressional investigators want to "make sense" of details of the operation that allowed more than 2,000 guns to "walk" and later turn up at crime scenes on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border, but they want to known why Hurley -- who knew almost immediately the guns found at Terry's crime scene belonged to Fast and Furious -- tried to "prevent the connection from being disclosed."

Grassley also raised concerns about the latest data on Fast and Furious guns found at crime scenes in Mexico.
“The Justice Department has been less than forthcoming since day one, so the revisions here are hardly surprising, and the numbers will likely rise until the more than 1,000 guns that were allowed to fall into the hands of bad guys are recovered -- most likely years down the road," Grassley said in a statement released Thursday.

"What we’re still waiting for are the answers to the other questions the Attorney General failed to answer per our agreement. The cooperation of the Attorney General and his staff is needed if we’re ever going to get to the bottom of this disastrous policy and help the ATF and the department move forward.”

Evidence Suggests Cover-Up In ATF Scandal, As More Guns Appear At Crime Scenes | FoxNews.com
 
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You guys are clones of each other. A little sock-puppet action, maybe?

Would it surprise you if I said the ATF is not liked very well? That it is, in fact, hated by many in the U.S.A.?

And are you both trying to say that perfection in every way is demanded of us? We cannot have any scandals, any crime, any law-breaking? Because if we do, we become LIARS, HYPOCRITES, WARMONGERS, EVIL, UNTRUSTWORTHY, SCUM, SWINE, MURDERERS, etc ad infinitum.

In simple terms - what is the point? Every society, every government, is less than perfect.
 
You guys are clones of each other. A little sock-puppet action, maybe?

Would it surprise you if I said the ATF is not liked very well? That it is, in fact, hated by many in the U.S.A.?

And are you both trying to say that perfection in every way is demanded of us? We cannot have any scandals, any crime, any law-breaking? Because if we do, we become LIARS, HYPOCRITES, WARMONGERS, EVIL, UNTRUSTWORTHY, SCUM, SWINE, MURDERERS, etc ad infinitum.

In simple terms - what is the point? Every society, every government, is less than perfect.

Chogy, sir with all due respect, we have hatred for the US forces for the murders of innocent in Iraq, Afghanistan and other Muslim/Arab world as we all consider our selves (muslims) to be one.
 
Chogy, sir with all due respect, we have hatred for the US forces for the murders of innocent in Iraq, Afghanistan and other Muslim/Arab world as we all consider our selves (muslims) to be one.

I appreciate and understand your sentiment... I usually post here daily, and get an overdose of it.

My point, again - both Aryan_B and Superkaif revel in threads like these. The slightest bit of bad news seems postworthy. As if every single nation on earth doesn't have some level of incompetence or corruption.

Analogy: How many posts on Indian Poverty or toiletry habits do we need? What is the point?
 
I appreciate and understand your sentiment... I usually post here daily, and get an overdose of it.

My point, again - both Aryan_B and Superkaif revel in threads like these. The slightest bit of bad news seems postworthy. As if every single nation on earth doesn't have some level of incompetence or corruption.

Yes, I agree. Sometimes, even they both post stuff that makes no sense. I will try to talk to them.
Analogy: How many posts on Indian Poverty or toiletry habits do we need? What is the point?
No point. When others start a troll war, with the recent topic of Pakistan Army/ISI aiding Militants to enter Kashmir, in the name of freedom fighters, it just makes you go nuts. Replies are, as you know.
 
you two crack me up like the stooges man- freaking hilarious...:rofl:

Why because we quote fact that you dont want to believe. In my opinion you are the one living in denial and dismissive of others points of view cos you cant bear to hear it
 
You guys are clones of each other. A little sock-puppet action, maybe?

Would it surprise you if I said the ATF is not liked very well? That it is, in fact, hated by many in the U.S.A.?

And are you both trying to say that perfection in every way is demanded of us? We cannot have any scandals, any crime, any law-breaking? Because if we do, we become LIARS, HYPOCRITES, WARMONGERS, EVIL, UNTRUSTWORTHY, SCUM, SWINE, MURDERERS, etc ad infinitum.

In simple terms - what is the point? Every society, every government, is less than perfect.

Chogy I agree we are human and no country is perfect. But the reason we bring americas flaws out here because we are often faced with propaganda in the west and from the west which tries to put things into black and white, good and bad. You just face it on the forum I am of pakistani origin and every time I pick up a paper put on the news I hear that america and the west are something to aspire and almost perfect and pakistan and muslims are evil bad black etc

We could all except that we are not perfect and there are shades of grey in the world.
 

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